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QueenBia See my TER Reviews 4900 reads
posted
1 / 53

Let me know how you feel about this after reading the entire page because it relates to a TER member here & the way a provider has changed her screening policy.

OldRanger 62 Reviews 102 reads
posted
2 / 53

The lady has every right to change her screening.
Client has every right to write a review.
Have seen more than one provider he has reviewed and probably could have written those reviews myself.
Have seen a lot of talk over many years about the 10/10 providers on this site soooo
Also looked at scores of other known names and numbers not out of line.
IDNK so can not besmirch either on the basis of her website change- but the lady is pissed.

GeorgeSpelviniii 225 Reviews 99 reads
posted
3 / 53

... that I would never book a date with this Provider.  Displaying her negativity and baggage openly isn't attractive.  Neither is no MSOG especially at her price point.  

We have a current thread about outing people and how destructive it is.  Fortunately, this isn't real life information but still, not the way I would handle the situation.  Of course, she is free to do her business model the way she seems fit.  

usd2binsfv 112 reads
posted
4 / 53

Ok, I saw her screening complaint in red(!) drama on her webpage, and as mentioned, she does seem pissed about the review. Then I saw and read that ter member's review and it was the lowest performance score on her page.

tbh, from her reviews it does sound like a legit "high class" provider. (I mean it's hard pressed to find a lady that pretty and model like in regular dating. Certainly won't find that on POF or eharmony etc. ) With statuesque looks like "Claudia Schiffer" and her hard work on herself which I do respect of providers who take care of themselves constantly (like background homework daily as a provider as part of their escorting performance prep) and even that client's review showed she did try hard. As for fake boobs mentioned in the review, oh come'on. I'd long got used to a little inflated boobs for a long time with providers on city-source for over a decade, especially if it's a really nice job, adds to the overall arousal, and not hardly overdone.  

It just seems like a matter of relative degree and for a high-end provider. I would think lots of other providers would envy her good reviews (even just one 7 for performance) and the current state of her spellbinding beauty as a true high-end escort. To sum up in my opinion, I would say they were both picky. The reviewer and the lady , Carol Ann as it's a relatively small "smudge" on her varnished first page of reviews. If I was a client, it still sounded like a great time for the donation and with such a hottie, I mean I would have still enjoyed it from what's described and gave her at least a 9 in performance in my book. Still a 9 in looks which is fabulous. Hope she gets over her bitterness soon. GFE+ and PSE services mentioned in her consideration page for a pretty high class provider looks amazing. (not that I could personally afford it as a regular at those rates).

MadDmacx 29 Reviews 77 reads
posted
5 / 53

She looks amazing.....above my pay grade though.  I heard shes going to offer a $500 poor man's package where she meets you at an upscale wine bar for two glasses of wine.  The first one she drinks and the second one she throws in your face then walks off with your $500 and out without you.  If you're into fetishes, she'll throw the first one in your face, drink the second one then walk off with your $500 and out without you.  

Reality is-  if the market will bear it, she will get it.  I dont think shes doing anything wrong. Its not like she outed the guy's irl info.   If I had the money to burn Id see her (not for the poor man's option either lol).

inicky46 61 Reviews 87 reads
posted
6 / 53

I checked out her site and found his reviews. A few points:
1) Both have been around for a while and each has some creds as a result.
2) Clearly she had his review removed, so it's hard to tell why.
3) He's a tough but fair review scorer so maybe she didn't appreciate a score that was low by her standards. I say tough but fair because I've seen some of the women he's reviewed.
4) All that said, calling out his handle on her site is over the top. I've never seen anyone do this and I would not see anyone who did it. I would not be surprised if she's also Black Listed him.
Thanks for a good post.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 110 reads
posted
7 / 53

she complained about, and being very familiar with the contents of reviews, I can see both sides of this.  Here is my analysis . . . .

 
Looks and Service are scored separately, and it's not uncommon for providers to be DDG and still give so-so service.  That's why TER asks the reviewer for separate scores.  Personally, I have seen a few uglies in the beginning of my hobby career that really delivered on service, and likewise, I have seen some of the DDG models who did not provide even average service.  With that said, there is a tendency with some reviewers to get their expectations too high when they are paying a premium rate, because premium rates are usually a product of looks and not service, so getting your expectations too high for service when seeing an exceptional beauty is bound to lead to disappointment unless your standards are so low you can't tell the difference.

 
Part of the problem here is that past reviewers have given her a lot of 10's, and her posting this diatribe on her website and trying to discredit the reviewer, change her screening policy to make it burdensome to everyone, and even asking other customers on TER to give the guy a hard time shows potential future reviewers what they are in for if they don't give her artificially high review scores.  It's a form of bullying.  The number of times she didn't want to do innocuous things that he is used to doing with other providers is not a "10" service score for most guys. If everything he said is true and this would have been my experience, I probably would have given her a point more than he did, because this sounded like "average" service to me, and I would be on her shit-list, too.  

 
QB, this is a great thread, because there are a lot of lessons in this scenario for both reviewers and providers.  When I looked her up on TER and opened the link to her webpage, I was stunned by her beauty, and thought this is a lady I should see, but then read her prominent message bashing this reviewer, and she instantly became an automatic pass for me.  Providers that have GPS and think they are doing us a huge favor by allowing us access to their bodies at a premium price, then tell you DURING the session that there are certain positions and activities they don't like that are normal in a GFE session, which is what she is advertising, it completely kills the moment and gives me regrets that I even booked her in the first place.  I will not be bullied for writing an honest review, so there is no place for me on her list of fawning customers spewing bullshit.  I'm sending a PM to the reviewer complimenting him on an honest review and encouraging him to keep it up.

MadDmacx 29 Reviews 81 reads
posted
9 / 53

His review of her is still up, and its not even a bad review.  He seemed to chalk it up to a chemistry thing.  And ur right about her naming him the more I think about it.  I think she shot herself in the foot with her diatribe.

OldRanger 62 Reviews 81 reads
posted
10 / 53

1) he has been around for a long time / she has since first of the year and not received her 20 for the 100 list
2)still find his review - so do not know what you missed
3)do not know how tough in general he is but has graded a number of ladies who do not have the glammed up photos a 9 who are years older desires. On performance has graded massage upgrade  providers higher in most cases.
Do not know if she blacklisted him but rep here locally is such that it most likely would be meaningless.
As for the 9 in looks a poor performance will affect looks more then the reverse as well as maybe not meeting the visual expectations of her pictures.

Hpygolky 214 Reviews 111 reads
posted
11 / 53

Before the class jumps on me with the "1K isn't beer budget, dude", keep in mind with this young lady, 1k in the min and she's free to set whatever price she wants.Guys just have to learn to stay in their lane...so we all settled down now.
The guy went in with the Min 1k package because she reminds the guy that there's no MSOG. He didn't get the PSE deal, which probably gave her the ratings of 10/10's and yet he wants to compare his 1k deal to what the 10/10 crowd got?? He even said "I had the high expectations due to the (frankly crazy) consistent 10/10 ratings Carol has received, and I felt deceived by them."C'mon man.
Then he deliveries a backhanded compliment on her looks and psychical features, he did give her a 9 there...but check out the details in how he went at her. Her pictures and VIDEOS lay out what she looks like. By the way, she has more visuals then I can remember anyone having. If you don't her look based on that, then I don't know what to say.
Now she loved kissing, and she gave a good BBBJ and she let him CIM. Those, other then Greek are pretty good bells and whistles to get. And he gave her a 7....that I'm scratching my head on but....
I think the guys went in, thinking 10/10 but with the bleacher seat price he dissed out, he wanted behind the plate action.
But calling him out, I'm not a fan of, not cool...But if I had the jack, and she toured Vegas, I'd hit her up. I'd so the PSE deal.....of course.

MadDmacx 29 Reviews 94 reads
posted
12 / 53

But did anyone notice her pics show her face clearly but she smoked hid her face in the vids?  Smh?

John_Laroche 93 reads
posted
13 / 53

I'd be interested in what exactly was his egregious action.
Other than a lower score and unenthusiastic description of the encounter, he didn't really have anything bad to say.

 
I agree with others that her bold red message is off-putting....but so are the heavily photoshopped glamor shots.

 
I'm sure she's an attractive woman who delivers as advertised, and he's a safe client.

NoShoreBeantown 130 reads
posted
14 / 53

I know this Provider & had seen her a few times before under another name, she’s rebranded under her current persona & raised her rates. I know this because I realized I hadn’t seen her tweet or update P411 in a while, so emailed her & said I was looking fwd to her next tour in my city. She replied saying she’d love to see me, gave me her new dates, website/socials etc. Come to find out I’d been following her on Twitter for some time not knowing about the rebrand. Now knowing it’s her w/ increased prices I knew immediately I wouldn’t be booking again - more on that below.

While of course everyones eye is different with respect to looks I can say from experience that she’s indeed incredibly beautiful. However the pics on her site & twitter are either photoshopped or she’s made use of AI filters - as that’s a close but not true representation of her face and that’s fine as I assume she’s trying to keep some semblance of privacy while giving her potential clients an idea of her looks. No issues there for me but maybe that factored into the Reviewers overall score (even though he gave a 9 for Appearance, it could’ve bled into his Performance score?).

She’s also extremely friendly, outgoing, warm, & a pleasure to be around but I say that I wouldn’t book her again, especially at her higher rate because she likes to chat a lot during the intro, drinks, ice breaker etc. In a 2 hour meeting I expect to go two to three rounds of fun & she would delay me quite a bit when I made the indication that I wanted to get to the good stuff. One time when I said I was excusing myself to take a quick shower she said to sit back down as she had some more stories to tell me since we last saw each other. So, the 1st hour was all chit chat & the 2nd hour was one round of fun (great fun), but more chatting & stories took up the remainder of the session & I had to head out soon. So for one round of action in a 2-hour session at a now even higher price isn’t something I’m interested in & I would bet the Reviewer wasn’t very happy either.

All that to say she or anyone as the right to charge whatever they want, screen however they want, & lead a session according to their comfort level & what they want as part of their brand knowing there is a likelihood she’ll be reviewed. Bottom line is that if she feels safe w/ different screening then she should absolutely adjust it. Not sure her reviews will get any better (or worse for that matter) by updating her screening measures.

In my experience she’s a real good time once the fun starts, looks like a model & performs like a PS, just not in my budget anymore. This guy, while knowing he wasn’t getting MSOG was most likely disappointed by the copious amount of chit chatting & a few other “positional” restrictions to what would normally be part of a standard GFE session, especially at that price point & has all the right to review her honestly based on his experience. Maybe he soured a bit & let that get the better of his review & an 8 (or 9?!) for performance is more likely his real experience. But what’s the point of these reviews if they’re not honest & based on what we actually thought about the experience we had w/ the Provider.

It’s not a great look for her to put it on her site like that but again if that’s how she wants her brand represented then who’s to stop her. Good thoughtful topic!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 98 reads
posted
15 / 53

she made it quite clear on her webpage that her decision to make screening more intense is punitive and not from any actual threat visited on her.  She told us, if "WE" don't like, we should go thank HIM."   She just didn't like the review, and now she is going to take it out on anyone who is a member of TER.  Like I said, this is passive-aggressive bullying and attempted intimidation of customers she hasn't even met yet.  Anyone that sees her is not going to get in without promising a 10/10 review, and then what good is their review to anyone except her?  She can go fuck herself, because I wouldn't, not even at half the price.  She is the new poster-girl for GPS.  

OldRanger 62 Reviews 97 reads
posted
16 / 53

Now that she is a bit older  
Probably has more professional pictures.
Raised her rate significantly
Let me take a guess.  
Her looks scores were not all tens  
Her performance were not all nines unless she did anal for ten.
Quite possibly she might have had an occasional seven before .
Not beyond belief .
What were her scores?

-- Modified on 8/17/2023 6:38:24 PM

derblutenkat 93 reads
posted
17 / 53

Her most recent profile was Charlotte Desir and she had scores that were consistently very high, including a lot of 10/10 because she’s hot, does anal and generally provides very good service. I do agree with the above comment about her being deliberately too chatty to keep the action to a minimum, which was also my experience and also why I would not see her again at her rates (which are maybe slightly higher but not by much from her prior profile).

NoShoreBeantown 104 reads
posted
18 / 53

I don’t recall exact numbers as her old persona has been removed from here. But she had high scores, 10s and 9s for looks and 10s, 9s & the occasional 8 for performance. There may have been a 7 peppered in there but don’t quote me on that and nothing lower for sure. When the fun starts she’s one of the best & with that body she was ATF material for sure, if not for the delay tactics & price tag.

RIFFRICHARDS 94 reads
posted
19 / 53

And what was her prior name/handle? Might be time to expose her?
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And I agree fully with cdl - her increased screening has nothing to do with her safety, it has everything to do with guaranteeing high scores. Perhaps Admin should take a closer look at this because that seems to violate TER’s policies.

BigBoyPants 5 Reviews 98 reads
posted
20 / 53

I’ll post in the next day or two whether I think the provider in question is a true “10”.

What evidentially needs to be brought up, and reinforced, to many of you is that the “performance” rating is NOT whether a certain act is allowed, but rather was it worthwhile.

Performance, much like looks, is subjective.

Certain acts may be available but that does not automatically garner an 8, 9, or 10.

Maybe the customer wasn’t seeking a specific act and although that service may be available it doesn’t automatically equate to moving a 7 rating to an 8 simply because someone else paid for it and wants to post a positive review for a provider they vainly hope will remember that, and be just a little bit more special to said provider who most likely doesn’t know, or care.

Do not get tied up in the scale thinking that simply because a service was available, that they did not look for, or care for,  that automatically a higher rating should be given.

Hpygolky 214 Reviews 93 reads
posted
21 / 53

Now it's 1k. So before, old rate you were cool to see her again, now...it's a no
I'm Just curious.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 95 reads
posted
22 / 53

This is not a bad review, so I am unsure what the provider is upset about? I have read some of this gentleman's reviews and I have not found any that are mean or disrespectful. I think he was honest and gave constructive feedback. What exactly is she saying she needs to tighten her screening process for? Screening is for safety. There is no indication there was any physical/verbal altercations or issues with payment.  If she does not want reviews posted then she should say that on her website and also tell prospective clients. Calling out this gent in red on her site is a bit tacky.

worried 101 reads
posted
23 / 53

Seems most were given White List Referrals for the 10's.  I wonder how many actually repeated?  If I gave a 10/10, I'd see her weekly.  

RIFFRICHARDS 88 reads
posted
25 / 53

Many of these 'high-class' or 'high-cost' ladies get very upset when they get less than a 10/10 or 10/9 score. Why, you ask? Because their goal is to get into the TER Top 10 either worldwide or in their home base. They feel that drives their business up. So, if she gets a 9/7 it lowers her score and lowers her ranking. I've seen a few go nuts over this. Some object to the reviews and try to get the gent to increase the score or remove the review. Others delist and adopt a no review policy. IMO it's a bunch of BS, and I'm glad TER doesn't allow the reviews to be removed if the gent can simply show the arrangement of the date by text or email.

500Roses4u 29 Reviews 84 reads
posted
26 / 53

Where does she complain about the review? We don't know if her negative experience was in person or because of the review. Too vague. But, encouraging people to contact the client just means his story will be the only one told. Can't see that'll get her anywhere. If it's just a money and expectations thing, screening doesn't change that either.  

NoShoreBeantown 94 reads
posted
27 / 53

$700hr & at 5hrs she started tapering it in favor of the lengthier session.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 91 reads
posted
28 / 53

a bad review.  It seems like he wasn't happy about the aftermarket modifications to her looks.  He knew her rate going in but from what she says in her website, maybe he complained about her rate due to her "alterations."

 
She also apparently doesn't like to be fucked jackhammer style but I don't think that is something that can be determined during screening.  Since you're not allowed to mention sex in exchange for money, no guy is going to say: "OK, I'll pay you $1000 but at that rate I want to fuck you for 45 minutes straight."

 
Finally, she could have been upset about his piss-poor attempt at talking dirty.  I didn't think it was possible, but what he said to her was even dumber than Seinfeld's attempt at talking dirty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98YukqxYCKU

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 96 reads
posted
29 / 53

she has a TER profile under her former name.  Guys should have the benefit of reading her previous reviews.  If there are no ads in her old TER profile you can search the internet to see if her ads are still floating around in cyberspace.

TiannaTemptation See my TER Reviews 93 reads
posted
30 / 53

It looks like this provider’s profile is no longer available on TER so it’s hard to gauge previous experiences. However I do know, that in my opinion, there are words/terms/phrases that you would not associate with high-class ladies.  
In this scenario I would point out the mention of MSOG in the pricing structure. Surely there must be a classier and more polite way of expressing this concept.  Add this business with calling the client out on her site and it’s just not what I would expect from someone with any sense of class whatsoever.  While she may be beautiful with great skills as a provider, I would suggest that she represents herself as high price, as opposed to high class.

RIFFRICHARDS 102 reads
posted
31 / 53

It appears that her prior persona, Charlotte Desir, has been scrubbed from TER and Twitter/X. Perhaps the OP or a prior client can resurrect that data and merge it with her current profile through a Problem Report.

eastside70 42 Reviews 89 reads
posted
32 / 53

that her temper tantrum backfired on her. Her TER profile is removed along with her rant about the OP on her own website.  

Just imagine what she would have done if she had his real info too. She's just another unstable provider to avoid.

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 104 reads
posted
33 / 53

Another re-brand coming.

eastside70 42 Reviews 77 reads
posted
34 / 53

Posted By: RIFFRICHARDS
Many of these 'high-class' or 'high-cost' ladies get very upset when they get less than a 10/10 or 10/9 score.
It's just not these types of providers who act this way. Some mid-cost providers act the same way.  

I had a former Ms TER tell me that unless the score is at least 9/9, it actually lowers her average, which then drops her ranking and how she showed up in searches on here. And that I should keep that in mind when submitting my review of her (or not).

Golden_hampster 86 reads
posted
35 / 53

Of course I can't mind read but it seams like he was a lot of work. Sometimes clients are, its the biz but usually they are appreciate especially when the guy has an issue finishing and then she makes it happen.  

The way she's more upset he was a wear out than the 7, but again I am just speculating.

Golden_hampster 120 reads
posted
36 / 53

She's using AI to change the color of her lingerie in some pictures but it's the same person.

 
Her Slixa and P411:

https://www.slixa.com/florida/miami/karen-noir

https://preferred411.com/P374783

GeorgeSpelviniii 225 Reviews 124 reads
posted
37 / 53

It appears that the two new reviews are bogus.  Click on the reviewer's name and "No Such Page" Exists.  https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/karen-noir-380290/

Posted By: Golden_hampster
Re: The rebrand is already in the works as Karen Noir  
She's using AI to change the color of her lingerie in some pictures but it's the same person.  

https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/karen-noir-380290/
   
   
 Her Slixa and P411:  
   
 https://www.slixa.com/florida/miami/karen-noir  
   
 https://preferred411.com/P374783

Golden_hampster 101 reads
posted
38 / 53

She took down her p411 but here is a screenshot of it b4 she took it down

PussyPuller 453 reads
posted
39 / 53

She’s gorgeous. Why all of the names and rebrands? From Elisabeth Skye to Charlotte Desir to Carol Ann to who knows who else … seems expensive, ironic and a waste of time, especially if she’s providing good service.

Lip-lock2 47 Reviews 90 reads
posted
40 / 53

What’s the matter QB are you all caught with General Hospital and needed some nonsense to soothe the ennui

TheQueenSophie 109 reads
posted
41 / 53

I'm all for someone wanting to make changes to their body and I've seen many boob jobs but damn...those are horrible!!

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 81 reads
posted
42 / 53

I agree. I don't think she's at all attractive.

usd2binsfv 97 reads
posted
43 / 53

I'd only stumbled on her ad page on tryst.link in recent months and didn't know she had prior identities or provider pages. I agree she's gorgeous and seemed to give consistent good service.  

I think she shouldn't have reacted that much. Her reviews even with that slight mar by a not-so-perfect review were among the highest tier ranked and percentage nationally already. In the past, only top escorts in states, regionally or nationally could have multiple pages of high rated and praised reviews that read legit. She shouldn't really care about a little 'imperfection'. She would still get a lot of business with one slightly lower than perfect review and the difference in interest based on clients who look on TER review numbers really would have been a marginal difference anyways in my opinion , if she was already in that high demand.  

I guess some of these providers in recent years may not have realized it was never perfect in the business or on TER reviews even among the consistently highest rated providers throughout TER's history. I really see no need for her to try to start over again, and in my opinion it's a shame her current ter profile and her reviews as 'Carol Ann' had been deleted.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 71 reads
posted
44 / 53

Saying something about a TER client. What am I missing?

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 74 reads
posted
45 / 53

I posted this over two weeks ago & she has deleted it from her site. She was calling out a TER fella who wrote what she thought was a bad review because it was not her normal 10/10 rating. We all can be a 10/10 every time. It is what it is.

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 92 reads
posted
46 / 53

And I saw yesterday and today that she’s back on Twitter/X as Carol Ann acting like nothing happened. Hopefully gents won’t book her and she’ll learn a lesson.

Angel4Life 75 reads
posted
47 / 53

Thanks for clarifying….I could tell she had deleted her TER account and hence I could not find the Review which irritated her.  Just from her attitude itself throughout her website, I would never book a date with her.  I am not  factoring in all the comments critical of her actions either.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 81 reads
posted
48 / 53

I check in here sometimes. That's why I asked what did I miss?. Mkay?  

Brose691 68 reads
posted
49 / 53

Not to justify this high price not high class provider, but getting into the top 100 list is big deal because some guys only use that to look for girls to see in a new city or their current city for new girls. They might not have time to go through all the ads or the reviews, just get the summary. So then 10/10 score is important. At least this is what one provider told me bc she would rather I not write a review that if it wasn't a 9 or higher.

But I would think worth enough reviews a 7/7 review would get averaged out.

Brose691 88 reads
posted
50 / 53

One girl told me she rebranded because of a stalker. Another had to because she lost her password or maybe got hacked, I forget. She said she lost all her reviews because of that when TER blocked her account. Another one just felt like graduating to a different persona and rate structure instead of raising her rates. Not sure about this girl, sounds like the latter reason.

Brose691 70 reads
posted
51 / 53

Have you seen Laura Luisa or Aurelie Griffith? They both have multiple reviews in consecutive months at 10/10 to get them into the top 100. Maybe they're really that great?

holystonethedeck 91 Reviews 46 reads
posted
52 / 53

You're right Holly, no matter how "good" a lady is there will be someone who doesn't care for her looks and/or performance.

 
It's like when you read restaurant reviews on Yelp - no matter how good the restaurant is there will always be some negative reviews about SOMETHING.

kyungjean 6 Reviews 80 reads
posted
53 / 53

lol. Not that I know what a cow's anus looks like, but that is what her lips made me think of!

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