There are a lot of people alive today who don't know when NOT to haggle. The same goes for the (albeit rare) upcharging on the provider's side. "Yes" is nice, "No" is fine, "That'll be another hundred" makes the candle melt.
How many of you ladies deal with a large number of appointment requests from men not willing to see you for your minimum time? Is this a normal thing that happens to others or is it just me? I get these emails frequently each week. But today I was stood up by a man after I traveled to another city and booked a hotel room to see him. He decided 2 hours before the appointment to email me from his house that he was no longer interested in seeing me for my minimum time.
I do not understand why a man would waste a providers time emailing them if it's posted that they have a minimum time/ rate and he is unwilling to pay it. I'm totally fine if they have a time commitment and need to leave early while paying the full rate but it's obvious he's being cheap. Why not just go see someone in your price range??
But anyways, it would be great to hear back from some ladies if this is a normal thing hobbyists do.
such as time minimum, (If I even put the word minimum,) amount of notice I need, deposit required, or whatever I request, I get a bunch of inquiries from guys (or ladies, who knows,) requesting appointments that lack one or all of those details.
I've noticed lately, however, I've only had gents who request what is on my website or P411. I think it is the approach I'm taking. I only state the package rates I offer. I try to keep the words "Minimum", "Required", "Must", or anything else that makes me sound demanding or high maintenance out of my ads lately. It's amazing how a few words can annoy someone to the point of screwing with another's business for no reason.
Been through many last minute cancellations when I obliged to their standards and not mine. Those requests, again, flood my inbox if I write an ad that sounds too demanding lol.
I now just refresh their memory, or say "Ok, I hope you find someone you enjoy!" Makes life much easier
I get asked how much for half an hour, granted I know that's a byproduct of posting on BP, but it's still annoying that there's some reading comprehension problems among adults. I still get emails with "your site doesn't have a half hour, what would it be for that?" Hmm, genius, if it's not there then maybe it's because it doesn't exist.
Some just think rules are there to be broken.
I usually book 2-4 hours, so this is definitely not me, but what I hear from friends is "it never hurts to ask." I only say this because it may be what you're seeing is someone who is hopeful that he might be lucky enough to be able to stretch his budget to see you, rather than someone who is uncaring or pushy. (though I suppose they could be both
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Cancelling last minute, or trying to extort it from you once you've invested in the travel or room, or any other idiocy is just wrong though.
Recently someone asked if I'd be willing to see them for 15min. Yup. Granted he just wanted me to put him in some weird headlock with my thighs and tempting as seeing him tap out before losing consciousness was I junked the email.
On the flip side I'm weird in that I don't usually allow first sessions to be extended. If we click they can always come back for extended or overnights or vacations. If we don't (by we I mean me lol) and I've still got two hours in a three hour session left… No thanks.
I guess the deposit is a good option for the above scenario but also…email quite a bit back and forth. I find that stupid or crazy or rude or disrespectful alway rears it's head if only subtly. As does chivalry and real excitement to meet me. Maybe they should invent a gray list…for the safe but rude assholes.
But what is the deal with these 15 min requests, I had someone contact me asking me what my location was to see if it was on his way to the train and for every day of the work week stop by for just 15 min, and all he wanted was for me to open the door, get on my knees and while he jerked off let him call me dirty names and do a facial.
I totally support a gray list...there's many men who are safe, definitely safe and should be seen, but they are NOT for every escort because they are just self-absorbed creatures
A daily 15 min facial…sounds so relaxing in any other world. Yes a gray list. Speaking of self absorbed…
I had someone who really needed to be assured I was gfe, the way he worded it was safe but left me feeling like he really needed some affection. I roll out the red carpet. New lingerie set underneath a smashing cocktail dress. He comes out of the bathroom and I'm standing there giving him my sexiest look and anticipating to throw down passionately. Surely he's going to walk over and touch me…kiss me…remove my clothing in that excited fumbled way.
He walks right past me, removes his towel and lays on the bed and says in an announcing way (I wish I was kidding) "I'm ready".
Well, ok…so much for…guess I can unzip my own dre…just..a sec while I take off my shoes…
I laugh my ass off whenever I think about it. Him lying there like he's at a K-spa and me struggling to get out of lingerie. I guess gfe is no guarantee of bfe.
probably isn't someone you would want to see under any circumstances.
As a client, if a lady has a half hour price or a QV price listed, I immediately pass. I have no desire to stand in line outside her door and be semen donor #17 that day.
I have never stood up a date or changed my mind after I finalized arrangements. However, over the years I have been stood up many times by providers. Just part of the game.
debate, which in terms of time, all our times are valuable.
But when there is extra time involved (as in going to another city) and money invested, that's taking it to another level. People should be honest with what they can afford.
Travel to another state to see a provider, hotel the night before, then get cancelled at the last minute for questionable reasons. Provider didn't give me a deposit, so I had no remuneration.
As for the OP, I'd suggest she not travel very far for just one client, especially if it's a short appointment.
Guys always get so butt hurt about cancelations. If someone was going to give you a couple hundred, would you blow it off for a nap?
Sure, there are some dumbass girls out there who will cancel at the last minute for no good reason, but the large majority are only going to cancel if they are going to make you feel ripped off by showing up. You wanna see us with the shits? Want us to puke on you? Want us to give you the flu? Want us to bleed all over you? Want us to sob uncontrollably about our grandmother? To the tune of YOUR $300+??
Quityerbitchin. 90% of the time if you got your way you'd be even more upset. It's our job to be your fantasy, and we take it seriously. We know a cancellation is better than a bad review or a client who's turned off forever, because he still has a better chance of coming back than if you'd given him a terrible time. Obviously, cancellations aren't great for business, but we're not stupid dude. We don't do it for fun
When she decided to hit me with the fact she wanted to see my DL upon arrival. Maybe in HELL
So many people don't read the pertinent information before contacting a provider. I can usually tell which ones those are...and I will be sure to make things clear, to save myself (and them) trouble. Usually, once they find out my minimum...they don't want to proceed, as they'd just assumed an hour incall, etc.
Haven't had any instances of a guy confirming an appt w/me, and then welching, or trying to negotiate a lower time/rate.
you just paid your rent you just paid all your bills you honestly don't happen to have any cash on you for play money or take out or whatever.
or you're just plain bored and you want to make a couple hundred bucks real quick.
so its a blizzard nobody's around and this one guy politely asked you hey would you want to do an hour just for me today possibly?
if your option was to make 0 or make the hour rate in there were no one else calling that day
I don't care how popular you are in this New England weather there are some days where you're just not going to have a lot of people coming out in the blizzard to see you
I managed to do a massage for my inexpensive massage rate it's a pretty easy type of appointment its nothing out of the ordinary or exciting it's not very physically demanding of me
so last week when there was a snowstorm I did one of my inexpensive massage appointments and I was more than happy to make 150 then to sit on my ass and makes 0
if your option is to sit there and make nothing'
or maybe lower your standards and take a call that might not be the best thing in the whole entire world you've ever done
all I know is I'm not too good for 150 bucks and if there's nothing else going on and lets just say its a snowstorm and there's only one person willing to trek out to see me
and maybe they don't even sound like they have a good vibe it sounds like we won't get along hell I will suck it up and do it
I'd rather go to sleep knowing I accomplished something for the day then Sat around and did 0
for me I would not be offended if somebody asks hey are you willing to do a half hour
you always have the option to turn down their request or simply delete the email and not respond
if I post an ad and I get a lot of crazy text messages saying hey would you mind coming out for this or would you come here for this
if I'm not interested I just delete them I don't bother responding are giving it a second thought
however you gotta understand you might not take them up on that offer but the next girl that is offering to our minimum just make take him up on that offer on a slow day
I wouldn't get offended I don't think they mean any harm there are some of us who are slightly bending hour minimum rules now and again with the economy the way it is if somebody is asking you to do an hour rate and your minimum is 2 hours you may turn it down but there are other girls that make gladly to bend the rules and take a small hour sessions as opposed to nothing that day
I posted on Backpage for body rubs last week and then as usual a regular that I know called
who lives in the neighborhood any calls me whenever he drives by he actually didn't even see my Ad he called me right before the minute it went up
so as usual I posted my ad and then I didn't even end up meeting with all the new people calling to the regular came by
that happens to me a lot I will post my ad and then all the sudden all my regulars are calling and I don't even end up having a chance to answer all the calls
'most the time I'll just go through and delete them all I don't see the point in calling people two days later just to inform them that I am sorry I missed your call 2 days ago seems kinda pointless especially if it's your day off and you want to spend 4 hours returning every phone call an email
I know I get those texts too
will say hey would you come out for X amount of money???
there's no harm in them asking and if I will say no that doesn't mean if they go through the whole lineup that they won't find someone that will say yes to them eventually
when you look on Backpage I'm not saying that you are back page person
but I'm just saying when you look on Backpage there are some girls doing a hundred for an hour and things like that I wouldn't get offended they might just not know and they might be looking in all different kinds of places when people are doing all kinds of low rates these days
if you have enough to our appointments coming in that you want to do then just delete those guys emails don't even respond to be polite and say no thank you
just delete them don't even respond to them and don't give them a second thought
and heck if it's a slow day and you got nothing else to do you can think to yourself hey am I too good for $300???
maybe you will want to bend the rules and taking our call someday if you got nothing else going on you never know you may change your mind someday and actually take someone up on the offer and go ahead and try doing our session
I don't mind people checking in to see if I will do this or that because I do change my rates and I change my minimum time requirements
and according to what the requests from the masses are a lot of people were all requesting that I do an hour session I would say okay well I'm a business standpoint if the majority of clientele are seeking the hour rates
I would more than likely consider changing my rates and business
according to what the majority rule of enquiries are
if you don't take them up on their offer done the next girl well in this economy a lot of people are not being picky about
making sure every single appointment is above average in perfect and the perfect appointment possible
I've had a couple massages and appointments that were maybe
definitely people I would have rather not met with but that's just the way it is it's working with the public and thats why its work you're going to have to deal with a lot of people that you'd rather not
and there's always going to be people that will read your rules and say hey maybe she'll make up exception for me today
if you were at that hotel and that guy stood you up maybe you could have took one of those other guys up on his offer to do the hour session on a day like that so you didn't end up being in the negative
a situation like that you could have maybe call the couple of those guys back and say hey you know what I will take that our session
you make it in this situation someday where you'll be grateful these people are contacting you and you may just get in a situation where you will need the money even if it is only an hour appointment
I know that's not your way that you like to do your business but sometimes you have to take into consideration with the larger majority of in Corey's are asking
like what you're saying certain restaurant customers constantly are asking for fat free Italian dressing
sooner or later that restaurant will start carrying fat free Italian dressing
let's just say all the sudden everybody is obsessed with prostate massage and that's the new big craze
well then it would be a good business standpoint to learn prostate massage if you're getting a large majority people asking that
you know that guy blew you off for the 2 hour session but signing up in signing on for a whole two hour session is a pretty big commitment
most of these guys in all honesty they don't want to have a conversation with you they don't want to have sex for 2 hours and they don't want to pay you for sitting there and talking
the reality of it is a majority of them want to squeeze in coming to relieve some stress between work and sneaking back home to the wife and a two hour thing is just kind of a big commitment and a lot of money
if they know they can only have sex a 40 minutes it's going to suck having to pay for a whole two hours and sit there and listen to NASCAR talked for over an hour
if I was a guy I would totally stick to the half hours are the hours I definitely wouldn't be interested in blossoming a relationship with an escort or conversing with her excessively
the majority of the one getting out and they want to be fast and they get lives in work and they're stressed and they got things to get back to you in lif
I haven't encountered a haggler in a while, but I did have a guy contact me today and ask if I could "do any better" than my posted rate. My response was "better for whom?" He eventually got the point.
I think most of the guys around here know better than that. Unfortunately, a lot of dudes don't seem to understand basic etiquette. It's annoying as all hell, but every job entails dealing with the occasional twat. Luckily the cool guys outnumber the dolts.
There are a lot of people alive today who don't know when NOT to haggle. The same goes for the (albeit rare) upcharging on the provider's side. "Yes" is nice, "No" is fine, "That'll be another hundred" makes the candle melt.
No, never mind. After thinking about just how long that list would be it sounds like way too much work for me
and I like that word "twattery" has such a nice ring to it.
Feel free to use it whenever you find it apropos. I think it rolls off the tongue nicely.
As for the twat list, I think most of us have a pretty good idea of which handles would be included. Then again, we've all engaged in twatfoolery here at least once.
and I like that word "twattery" has such a nice ring to it.
I had cancellations before, and it is just annoying to have them last minute or when you travel.
Yes, having a minimum time if you have to drive is important but perhaps if you would of had the deposit in hand for both hours it may not be that bad. I know some gentlemen are not crazy about sending deposits but if the provider is reputable with a long standing history, please understand we do it for those guys who are inconsiderate of our time.
Sorry this happen to you..
I don't think there is anything wrong with it if a woman has to lay money out of her own pocket in anticipation for a date with only one guy. It's one thing to waste her time, which unfortunately is an occupational hazard that works both ways, but hard cash laid out of pocket is a different story.
If I were ever to ask a woman to spend money in advance for "our" date I would not object to her asking for a deposit, unless she knew me well enough to know that number one, I wouldn't stand her up, and number two, that I would reimburse her in the unlikely event that I got into an accident on my way to the appointment or for some other reason had to cancel.
Agreed, and the gentlemen compensate when life "gets in the way" last minute. Happens to us all at some point.
I have had a few men ask if I do half hour appointments but not too many. I offer an hour or greater, the few that wanted 30 min went elsewhere. Hasn't been an issue overall for me but I am 80% outcall so possibly different with incall.
Personally I try to get as much info from a website, ad or listing on TER before even contacting a provider. If she's not offering the amount of time I am looking for, I don't call. I always go for a minimum of an hour and expect that what is listed on her site/ad or blog to be fairly representative of what is being offered. Anything else would be a disappointment. I don't travel much, and usually when I do, there isn't time for hobbying and would never try to hire a gal from another city unless she was already visiting mine. Guess I'm a conservative person that way. My price range is usually fairly low, in the $250 range for an hour but that simply means that sometimes I'll save up for higher quality less often. The only way I'd ever cancel an appt with a provider is if there is a danger of being found out by my SO, or a snow day where my kids are home and I can't leave, and even then, I reschedule as soon as possible and usually give the gal extra the next time as an apology.
I changed my incall minimum to 90 minutes last year, along with outcalls that were more than 1 hours drive to the same minimum. Do I still have gents contact me asking to book an one hour incall? Of course...I just let them know what the incall minimum time requirement is, and they either say OK and book it, change it to outcall(which is only a 1 hour minimum), or move on. I've never had anyone change their mind the day of, as I ensure through initial e-mail that if they are seeking incall, what the minimum requirement is, if they are seeking outcall w/in 1 hour of my home base, what that minimum is(along with amount for travel fee), and for outcall, what that minimum is.
Leave no room for confusion, and there should not be any. In your case, I think he was just being a douche, and either found someone cheaper, or decided he did not want to spend the $....either way, he was in the wrong.