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Outcall only provider won't see anyone in hotel?
dan2del 1201 reads
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Just finally was able to hook up and talk to a provider who I'd been wanting to see for a while.  Set up for next week via text for a several hour visit, only to find out during a phone call to work out details that she wouldn't see anyone at a hotel, regardless of verification.  "Just a rule" of hers.  Couldn't really get her to clarify and didn't want to push, but for the life of me can't figure out why.  I thought outcall providers preferred a hotel to a residence for safety reasons?  

Offered to scan and send vehicle reg / tel bill etc to verify actual residence, but due to family staying at home (elderly mother who I moved in with me last year), just can't do it here.  I usually get a very upscale resort type hotel room complete with jacuzzi, fireplace, seperate living / sleeping rooms, but she wouldn't budge.  Maybe I'm not understanding the issue here?  Surely with the verification I was willing to go through (emailing copy of vehicle reg, tel bills, giving up all but birth certificate and SSN lol), I thought that'd be enough, but it was not.  

What don't I see is the issue here?  Disappointed, and thinking about borrowing a place if I can or doing a one nite residential vacation rental, but damn, a little miffed at the same time.

Maybe LE is her greatest fear. Since she knows they run stings out of hotels, she doesn't want to take the chance. I've never heard of cops running a sting out of a residence. That's one possibility anyway.

... but with a proper screening (she can simply do a two way call - calling the hotel and ask for his name and room number), she shouldn't hesitate but I would recommend that you rent a condo instead, http://www.vrbo.com.  At least it's not a hotel :).

She has her reasons. Move on....

some providers are not comfortable in hotels especially if they are having trouble verifying you or you are not easily screened in a way that makes them comfortable.

dont be miffed, you and her are just not a good match thats all, move on to one you are a good match with.

:)

It probably has something to do with the fact that LE uses hotels and motels to conduct sting operations.  As far as all the verification documents you have, LE can defeat any screening process and the smart providers know that.

I worked for a criminal defense law firm in Southern California and handled numerous cases involving defendants who were arrested in stings and other types of prostitution activity. The undercover vice and narcotics officers had fictitious driver's licenses issued by the DMV, fictitious credit cards issued by Visa, MasterCard and American Express, legitimate employment verification, etc., and they had used cars they borrowed from car dealers.  They rotated the used cars every couple of weeks and had fictitious registrations for the cars.

The driver's licenses and credit cards were issued to the police departments where the cops worked.  No one knew who the police department issued the fictitious ID's to except the police department. It was a real eye opener for me to see how they operate.

The arresting officer is required to state in the arrest report that he used a fictitious name when he contacted the defendant and to what extent he used the name for the screening process if the defendant screened the officer.  Some of the screening processes were very sophisticated and were done by professional screening companies and they still couldn't detect the "client" was LE.

Again, the smart providers realize screening is only effective to weed out weirdoes, but it is useless when it comes to LE and that is probably why she avoids hotels and motels.

AZphxUSA80 reads

I am surprised that anyone wouldn't be aware of how deep the cover can be for even local agency LE.

Good info to post for those that don't!

you can find enough lovely women who will see you in a hotel so both of you are happy.

Well, if you are so hung up with seeing her, seems like a good alternative would be for you to let her get the hotel.  If she rebukes this as well, then I'd just move on.  I can't think of any reason for her to refuse this counter offer.

Now, does she want it to be your house?  I had a similar situation we a provider.  I really had to have her!  I found a house on (dare I endorse Craigslist on this forum)CL.  Private residence, it was awesome huge tub, very private back patio in the woods.  Made for a great BBBJ on a moonlit night.  Cheaper than a suite @ a hotel and no nosey neighbors.
Good luck

Most of the outcall ladies I saw will not meet at a private residence for first time meeting but hotel only

dan2del105 reads

That's what I thought and said to her. Seems entering into the private residence of some guy who you've never met is a heck of a lot more dangerous for a woman's safety than a hotel with phones in bathrooms, plenty of people about, etc.

Re-read her reviews and found that she wouldn't even agree to a meet in a hotel with a guy that she'd already seen successfully once, but was too far for her to travel. Add another reviewer who said she did no screening on him at all, and the fact she regularly posts on CL, I find it curious. Guess she sees residence only outcalls as an alternative to screening? Scary way to do business for her I would think.

Too bad. REALLY my type, but not worth the hassle. I don't need to pay someone to be a high maintenance pain!  If it was a one time deal until trust was established after a first meet, no problem. But an ongoing thing for every meet? I'd think there's a heck of a lot more LE risk in seeing multiple new unknowns at residences than a repeat in a hotel. LE don't need to "flip" hobbyists to get providers to hotels, and isn't any LE going to sleep with a provider at a residence just so he can arrest her at a hotel at a later date. At some point common sense should take over.

Guess I might be part of some ultra secretive multi-jurisdictional vice task force targeting cute college girls working their way through school and devoting massive man hours in texts, email and phone calls to pursue individuals. LOL. Gotta admire her for turning down what could have been an ongoing, regular and lucrative deal had we hit it off to stand by her rules, but movin' on to someone else a little more experienced and safe. I'm not into incalls at all, but will do that with someone who screens before I do outcall with someone who doesn't.

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