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But this shit is just another form of barter dollars...been tried plenty of times before as well. None have succeeded. So yeah...your advice for not holding is sound 
Even TER accepts bitcoins. My webhost accepts bitcoins and so do many places I shop online. There are growing number of providers who accept bitcoins. It serves its purpose as an anonymous payment, so why the sarcasm?
Don't listen to people who have never even used it to pay for things, cuz 9 times out of 10 they don't have the slightest clue as to what they are talking about. Can really blame them for being skeptical though, considering the public drama and volatility. You'll be fine as long as you don't hold it too long or consider it an "investment".
Don't listen to people who have never even used it to pay for things, cuz 9 times out of 10 they don't have the slightest clue as to what they are talking about. Can really blame them for being skeptical though, considering the public drama and volatility. You'll be fine as long as you don't hold it too long or consider it an "investment".
just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand. 
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It's here to stay, whether you like it or not. I make wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant. Hey, people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
nope, the government can't track our cash and it is the same for bitcoin. how exactly are they going to track something that's been designed and encrypted to work like cash? you're most definitely confused there and have no clue how they work.
in the mean time, I'll pay for my hobby related stuff anonymously while you're busy berating stuff you haven't ever used before. why the need to insult those who are already using it? simply cuz you don't use it and you're too afraid it's some cult? All the while more and more sites (Like TER) are catching on making it easier to pay. Did you notice that? LMAO
It works just fine for stuff like TER and a whole bunch of other online stuff, so why do you feel the need to put in your un-expert inexperienced advice when it more than serves its purpose? Have I endorsed it as an investment? no. Are you a Certified Payment advisor? lol Why the need to berate people who choose a different route to pay?
You can use your credit card and your *real name* for hobby online services if you want to. Be my guest. lol
no one is stopping you but no need to make fun of those who take alternative routes, not everyone gives a shit about government this or that (as long as it works right now and serves its purpose). It's called adapting to change, you should try that some time.
in the mean time, I'll pay for my hobby related stuff anonymously while you're busy berating stuff you haven't ever used before. why the need to insult those who are already using it? simply cuz you don't use it and you're too afraid it's some cult? All the while more and more sites (Like TER) are catching on making it easier to pay. Did you notice that? LMAO
It works just fine for stuff like TER and a whole bunch of other online stuff, so why do you feel the need to put in your un-expert inexperienced advice when it more than serves its purpose? Have I endorsed it as an investment? no. Are you a Certified Payment advisor? lol Why the need to berate people who choose a different route to pay?
You can use your credit card and your *real name* for hobby online services if you want to. Be my guest. lol
no one is stopping you but no need to make fun of those who take alternative routes, not everyone gives a shit about government this or that (as long as it works right now and serves its purpose). It's called adapting to change, you should try that some time.
It's here to stay, whether you like it or not. I make wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant. Hey, people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
You have clearly never used a crytocurrency to know what you're talking about, yet you continue on with your un-expert advice (mainly due to your fear and its volatility, but I've shown you that euro vs dollar is volatile too considering it's an 'established' government backed currency. Were you too slow to realize its volatility? ). I get it, you get your news from the likes of WSJ so it's understandable, you know, the journal that's always a day late and print articles after the fact. It's pretty useless for traders and quick short term investors, but maybe it's good for people who like to jump in after the fact and buy high. Just like how they touted bit coin when it was sky high and now they are back paddling when it's actually bottomed short term.
If the government decides it needs to keep better tabs on them, guys like me find something else. Pretty easy.
Now, I thought you're smarter than that CPA but maybe you should just go back to doing taxes for now?
Get another credit card... when the whole point is NOT to reveal my SSN and name too easily. ROFLMAO
You have clearly never used a crytocurrency to know what you're talking about, yet you continue on with your un-expert advice (mainly due to your fear and its volatility, but I've shown you that euro vs dollar is volatile too considering it's an 'established' government backed currency. Were you too slow to realize its volatility? ). I get it, you get your news from the likes of WSJ so it's understandable, you know, the journal that's always a day late and print articles after the fact. It's pretty useless for traders and quick short term investors, but maybe it's good for people who like to jump in after the fact and buy high. Just like how they touted bit coin when it was sky high and now they are back paddling when it's actually bottomed short term.
I was referring to it as an alternative form of payment FOR THOSE WHO ACCEPT IT AND WANT MORE PRIVACY than credit card or paypal. Clearly, there are more and more people who take it. You won't get 100% anonymity, much like cash isn't a guarantee of anonymity. You sure are slow to understand what crytpo-graphy entails.
The point you're clearly not getting is: Cryptography is never absolute, but for all practical purposes you can rest assured it'll take far more resources to find out anything and it took to create it. You're confusing practical versus ideal and you're continuing on being a pedantic putz with your limited knowledge which rarely applies in the real world.
Good luck tracking me down with my cash spendings. For most practical purposes it's reasonably anonymous. And escorts take cash, so completely-anonymous or not, I'm paying with cash cuz it's reasonably anonymous.
Also, good luck tracking my bit coin spendings cuz believe it or not, it's a lot harder to track than you think (at the moment). Much like posting from a public IP address would make it impossible to track an anonymous poster, There are ways to obfuscate the flow of cash, such as getting your cash from some other source other than an ATM machine. And just the same, there are ways to obfuscate the transaction to the point where it is very difficult to track. Much like securing your password, a dedicated person might be able to hack it, but it's going to require a ton of resources. It's easier to obfuscate and make the thing harder to track than you think.
Hey, my machines mined a few bit coins lately. I have a network ring when it isn't running computations for research, it's making money for me making the most of its resources.
It's free money (but not exactly free, considering the computation it took to mine them. It paid for a couple of sessions too). Some providers take bit coins, TER takes bit coins, my webhost takes bit coins. So why wouldn't I pay with bit coins if I have some laying around free?
I'm sure this concept is new to you though but understandable cuz you're afraid of something that's new and approach it with much skeptism when clearly it's catching on faster than you can type. You're just spewing needless arguments when it works quite well for many people for most practical purposes.
A whole lot better than your suggestion of opening another credit card and use it for illegal enterprise. LMAO!!! I know you're smarter than that though, I'll give you that.
"We mock what we don't know."
If the government decides it needs to keep better tabs on them, guys like me find something else. Pretty easy.
Get another credit card... when the whole point is NOT to reveal my SSN and name too easily. ROFLMAO
You have clearly never used a crytocurrency to know what you're talking about, yet you continue on with your un-expert advice (mainly due to your fear and its volatility, but I've shown you that euro vs dollar is volatile too considering it's an 'established' government backed currency. Were you too slow to realize its volatility? ). I get it, you get your news from the likes of WSJ so it's understandable, you know, the journal that's always a day late and print articles after the fact.
It's pretty useless for traders and quick short term investors, but maybe it's good for people who like to jump in after the fact and buy high. Just like how they touted bit coin when it was sky high and now they are back paddling when it's actually bottomed short term. I was referring to it as an alternative form of payment FOR THOSE WHO ACCEPT IT AND WANT MORE PRIVACY than credit card or paypal. Clearly, there are more and more people who take it. You won't get 100% anonymity, much like cash isn't a guarantee of anonymity. You sure are slow to understand what crytpo-graphy entails.
The point you're clearly not getting is: Cryptography is never absolute, but for all practical purposes you can rest assured it'll take far more resources to find out anything and it took to create it. You're confusing practical versus ideal and you're continuing on being a pedantic putz with your limited knowledge which rarely applies in the real world.
Good luck tracking me down with my cash spendings. For most practical purposes it's reasonably anonymous. And escorts take cash, so completely-anonymous or not, I'm paying with cash cuz it's reasonably anonymous.
Also, good luck tracking my bit coin spendings cuz believe it or not, it's a lot harder to track than you think (at the moment). Much like posting from a public IP address would make it impossible to track an anonymous poster, There are ways to obfuscate the flow of cash, such as getting your cash from some other source other than an ATM machine. And just the same, there are ways to obfuscate the transaction to the point where it is very difficult to track. Much like securing your password, a dedicated person might be able to hack it, but it's going to require a ton of resources. It's easier to obfuscate and make the thing harder to track than you think.
Hey, my machines mined a few bit coins lately. I have a network ring when it isn't running computations for research, it's making money for me making the most of its resources.
It's free money (but not exactly free, considering the computation it took to mine them. It paid for a couple of sessions too). Some providers take bit coins, TER takes bit coins, my webhost takes bit coins. So why wouldn't I pay with bit coins if I have some laying around free?
I'm sure this concept is new to you though but understandable cuz you're afraid of something that's new and approach it with much skeptism when clearly it's catching on faster than you can type. You're just spewing needless arguments when it works quite well for many people for most practical purposes.
A whole lot better than your suggestion of opening another credit card and use it for illegal enterprise. LMAO!!! I know you're smarter than that though, I'll give you that.
"We mock what we don't know."
If the government decides it needs to keep better tabs on them, guys like me find something else. Pretty easy.
No point in insulting each other.
So lets leave it at that.
PS: 1% to convert to local currency. Compare this to 4% CC transaction fee or for paypal.
VERY expensive huh?
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It's here to stay, whether you like it or not. I wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant. Hey, people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
And Fannie Mae survived the meltdown how?
It's here to stay, whether you like it or not. I wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant. Hey, people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
-- Modified on 5/7/2014 4:52:18 PM
People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions? my guess is no.
TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on. point proven.
Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?
Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.
just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.
-- Modified on 5/7/2014 4:52:18 PM
Who said anything about surviving a meltdown. Most people avoid stuff that actually are sitting at rock bottoms and then jump in only after it's gone up too high to buy... like after it reaches the likes of worthless WSJ when it becomes public knowledge already... pretty much making it useless. I'm sure our expert friend CPA would know something about the WSJ?
Related Link: fannie mae chart...
Don't tell Satan however...I don't think he'd approve.