I see providers starting to charge  these ridiculous prices. I know a lot of guys must be paying  and my question is why? Why pay a woman $400 and up just for 1 measly hour of sex. I've heard of  guys paying $1000s for same amount of time. Honestly guys is it really that serious? I don't get it because to me it can't be that serious. Like the saying goes there nothing new under sun so there nothing these women are doing that ain't been done before and  worth that much  money. Now I'm not saying mess with $40 chicks hell no I stay clear of them. However 1 woman told me $200 and another one  said $250 for 30 min and i told them no its not that serious I'm not paying that. Like I said the question is why are you guys paying so much for so little time?

In case of a luxury goods / services, the price that consumer pays is determined to a huge extent by what the consumer / buyer is willing to pay.  

...always dictates the price one pays.  If someone can afford 1k for one hour of so so sex, more power to them.  I can afford that but have never paid more than 600 ever for an hour of bliss.  If you do your homework there are gems out there for less than 400.  The milf providers don't have GPS and I have seen a steady of them over the 20 plus years in this business.

It doesn't bother me in the least that you see $250 girls or if you were to see $40 ones. I pay for what I am attracted to, and for someone I think would be a good match for me. That type of provider almost always starts at $400 and goes up from there. To answer your last question, I do so because I enjoy it and can afford it but still, not sure why you are so concerned what others do and pay.

...$40 chicks? And why would you avoid them? At what price point are you willing to pay a provider for FS and why?

If everyone stopped seeing $400+ providers, that would drive up demand for $400- providers. Providers charging under $400 would raise their prices to match the rising demand.

Because they aren’t cheap bastards and like the way the pricier ones look and perform.

The guys that buy the $100,00 Mercedes or the $1000/hr date will not be standing up and telling you how many times the Mercedes let them down or that the hot date did not live up to her pictures or performance.
These are also the same guys who have the attitude that if it does not cost X or more it is not worth it . This attitude may make for as many 10/10s as the BBFS claim.
“I paid that much I had to have a good time”

It's hard to swallow the pride and say.. I screwed up. The price tag wasn't worth it. I should have bought something else than splurging $100,000 on this German piece of crap that needs to be taken to a mechanic every other month..  

and you don't have to. Kudos for you for making your hobby dollars stretch.  It's not what you earn but what you keep.  I have seen a provider who charges 80HH, gives excellent service, bbbj, with cfs (condom full service). Tight pussy.  Seen her 7 times since August, total cost $560.

Thing is though I heard what way too many stories where the guy paid xxx amount got played big time. So my point is the risk ain't worth the reward that  you may get. At the end of the day a nut is a nut why risk that kind of money.

I get what you're saying but its not worth all that. I can tell you for a fact that i paid a lot less then 1000 and had a hell of time. To be honest I won't get into details because you wouldn't believe me or you believe its a catch.

You prove my point you can have great sex without paying 1000. Now I wouldn't pay 600 everybody has their has boundaries. My point I've done pretty much everything most guys have done dealing with providers but I never had to pay ridiculous prices for it and my attitude been if providers get way too out of hand i'm a put my big boy britches on and get out there and approach woman and it goes however it goes.

Why pay 1000 dollars when a  girl charges 250 for an hour can do the same thing just as good as  the 1000 girl. The 1000 girl charges that because too many guys are looking for her approval and trying to marry her and fellas need to stop. Yes I deal with providers but I know they are not the all and be all and believe  me this was a hard pill to swallow but guess what they are fucking somebody other than us that never paid a dime and never will.

That the way life goes what people do effect  others whether it laws or whatever. My point is you paying these ridiculous prices have chicks that you dealt with and other chicks on the sidelines that talk to chicks you dealt with thinking they can get the same amount of money. What you do effect others never forget that. I'm not saying be cheap but i'm not paying ridiculous prices  just to get laid and you shouldn't either. it simple as that.

no they wouldn't if they won't pay $400 there not going to pay $500 and up i don't get your logic. Women would have to get wit the  program and move on. Like i said don't $40 bitches usually their the drug attics so i run away from them and i do mean run i came across situation where i saw a woman she saw me and i was like hell no and back my car up and left so with that said don't go against your gut fellas. Anyway let be honest women won't raise there price if men said hell no i'm not paying this. I've actually met women willing to quote on quote work with with me when i'm told them no. Look men want sex i get  that but don't play yourself for a sucka just case you won't some ass.

...why pay $250 an hour when another girl charges $40? 🤔

With all the scores of 6 or less that you give, maybe you should ask yourself if your selection process needs improvement.

First let's talk about the so-called "power" issue:  

I don't know what's the cost of living in Atlanta but here in LA it's an arm, a leg and a couple of internal organs. And the providers charge accordingly.  If there were good looking women here willing to fuck us for $250 (other than K girls) or $350 or $450 we'd gladly give them our business. But those numbers ain't coming back. So unless I want to fuck K girls or motel girls for the duration, my choices are pay the money  
or . . .

Now I don't have to post the same thing. So thanks!

Ditto.  eom.

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Looks like an average of 6/5 with quite a few 2’s in service. Not exactly a person I’d be quick to take hobby advice from.

You clearly seem to have issue understanding that other people see it differently, and may be willing to pay higher price for a different reason despite of what I articulated in my post.  

As Warren Buffet says, "Price is what you pay, value is what you get."  When the value you receive is at or higher than the price you are paying, then you have made an excellent choice, and will gladly repeat the experience.  If you did not feel like you received good value, you won't see her again.  Its not complicated.  

but also agree with the others.  
I go $65 - $80 and $100.
but went seriously a few or couple of times.  
It's like food. Sometimes you don't want to eat cheap food all the time and go you into a fancy restaurant.  
I wonder what the waiter would say if you tell him, most of the time I get food from your trash dump but today I decided to come in.

In my experience the cheaper escorts are that way for a reason. They’re either ugly as sin, way past their prime, heavily drugged up or flat out insane. Quite frankly, the stench of desperation becomes ever more pungent the cheaper they become, and their state of intoxication becomes ever more obvious, right down to the used needles left in plain sight with the track marks ever more visible. Sure, I could bang an escort for 140 bucks, but ultimately it isn’t worth the loss to my integrity or the nagging feeling that what I’m doing is fundamentally depressing and soul sucking. I want the escorts I see to be relaxed and enjoy my company instead of just tossing me out the door as soon as possible because they hate me and themselves and their work and only want the money so they can shoot more heroin into their arms. Fundamentally this means paying higher donation rates, since in general those women do offer a better service, are prettier, and are friendlier.  

...i generally prefer seeing providers that bathe between appts/dont have other clients waiting outside,texting her/knocking on the door/while she is hurrying me along me along/...hey..i had 4 figure appt w woman for 90mins for 2am summertime hang on the balcony of the Ritz in Lisbon Portugal-was it worth it? Hell Fucking Yes-im still talking about it now....if you are just looking for a hole to put your sperm in...why are you here???...i dont know if its just me...BUT...the value between $250 providers and $1000 providers is wider than the Nile....actually id rather go clubbing and just pay for UBER if i just need a release...i want the experience from women who love having and know how to have sex....also if $400 for one hr is measly...thats YOUR fault....AGAIN COST IS ONLY AN ISSUE IN THE ABSENCE OF VALUE.....

It wouldn't be surprising if you were PAID $1,000 and got your asshole ripped apart and had "a hell of a time". Everything is relative, which your lack of grasp of the concept appears to be the source of disconnect here.

There's a great line from one of the world's top art collectors: Most people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. The art world is fucking nuts. People pay millions and the artists openly laugh. The escort world is the same kind of nuts. We pay whatever we think the girls are worth and, regardless of the price point, they laugh. This is not a business with rational buyers. We're horny buyers. The girls are sooo in the drivers seat. Be grateful they're available at so many price points.

...an Oscar Wilde quote but carry on...lol

Quite right, Peter. In fact, Wilde said that a cynic is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. It's aline from his play, Lady Windermere's Fan.

Even the providers we like the see have demand going up. So much so that when you try to make an appointment they are not always available.  Some have raised prices as a result.  In the $400+ (from a few years) the demand is even higher,  then ended up raising their prices. the sky is The limit. If you think it  does not make sense that guys will pay 1000 they will.  

Yes, I know a lot of guys let the HDH's dictate not only the price, but everything else about the transaction and the date itself for that matter, but that doesn't mean we all do.  

And if you look at the two ladies who he scored 8 in looks, they're really 3s or 4s. OP looks like a bottom feeder to me.

It's Veuve Clicquot that tastes like crap. I avoid it like the plague. And you've never drunk "Crystal" champagne either. Because it's spelled "Cristal."
Pinhead.

Typical snooty billionaire art collector, he didn't give attribution for the line. LOL. Thanks for giving me the accurate source.  
 
He actually seemed completely likeable and well adjusted even though he lives in a world that is totally remote to 99.99999% of the rest of us.

...he sounds EXACTLY like the type of person Wilde was describing lol!

LOL. I don't know him, and I don't want to cast aspersions, but he certainly seems to have had a moment where he fit the bill.

...and not for the first time:
"I have found no reason to pay the $500+hr rates that have become so common here in the states even while at home. I am not saying these women aren't 'worth' it, who am I to say what a person is worth, but I can't remember the last time I paid over $300 hr."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/the-us-has-k-girls-and-low-priced-latinas-949795?frmSearch=1#949795

It's all relative.  The guy paying a $1000 for an hour of fun probably buys $500 ties. They pay more because they have more. To them, it would be like wasting time to squabble about a few hundred bucks. So really your beef is about men having larger incomes. Because a provider will charge whatever she feels comfortable with. And I agree there are some out there that are thinking they can pull $800 bucks and their looks are average , so unless they are phenomenal in bed they are working the system.  And more power to them. You can charge or pay whatever you want but nothing is going to change unless you get a second job so you have a larger play fund. And I agree , it's just pussy. Not the Taj Mahal. But if you really want to go deep in this discussion, I think my pussy is priceless. That's why I just let visitors pay to play w it. No one could ever own it.

Normally when you pay a higher rate (400 and up), it comes with the security of a drama free, more professional session i.e. higher end hotel, appointments made and met on time (who likes waiting in the parking lot for 30 mins?), shower available, perhaps a outfit request or at the very least she will have lingerie/heels on.  I have dabbled in both, but I can admit that overall my sessions with higher charging providers has been better than lower end providers who normally stack appts on top of each other and rush.  Of course that varies from provider to provider.  These days that is not necessarily a sure thing.  

yes waiting outside for the guy before you comes out.
yeah the hurry up, time is almost up and they knock on the door. She answers back with a "Ya!" and you say the same "Ya!"
But spending a few dollars is nice.

The same reason he has a sparkling new Mercedes and you have a beat up Honda.  

My sweet spot is 300-400.  If I had 1000 to spend I would book three appointments, one hour/week for the next three weeks.

Funny I used to have a beat up Honda.
Now I have an old beat up, well not so beat up
but old and well driven Mercedes.
I just drive whatever car I find when I need one.
But what that got to do with anything?
Girls don't like it when you compare them to cars.
But yeah I "date" junkers. Hey they take me there.

First of all Willanator,
   Get a life!!!!! Don't worry about what others are paying unless you are giving other hobbyists the money to do some hobbying.

I've thought the same thing over and over, every time I log on. I decided that the glossy format must work and those girls (and sort-of girls. lol) are getting what they're asking, so why not ask it!
 
30-years ago, a friend was asking for $125/hr for his services. That was a lot in my book. One time on his way home, he overheard two guys talking: "I heard that guy was charging $400/hr, he must be really good." My friend got home and jacked his price and, true story, his practice took off. I met him the first time about 5 years later at his 4-story, elevator-condo on the waterfront in one of the most exclusive boating towns in the world.  
 
About 35-years ago, I remember a seminal book came out by an academic / noted author (who's name I can' remember, ha!) about how consumers react to price. Why will you go 30 minutes to save $10 on a $100 item, but not on a $20 item?? 10% vs 50%, yet the 10% seems like a deal you've got to get!
 
So, more power to them for recognizing we'll give it to them! No reason they should sell it for less than we're willing to pay.
 
EDIT: I just noticed you're a provider. And you're engaging in another practice that's a big focus of the book I just mentioned, prices ending in '9.' You're the first provider I've seen do that: $299. Smart girl (pretty too)...maybe. Personally, I think this may be one of the few markets where that's counterproductive. It actually made me think twice: "hmm, what's wrong with her that she needs to do that?" You may want to rethink it unless it's working for you. I'm very curious, is it working for you?

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...Her last name is "Goldberg."  

At one point in the 60's, it was 19.95 for a paint job...So I get the $299. It's not $300.

Louis Vuitton does not offer specials, or discounts. You obviously, do not respect working women if you posted this very rude comment. Thanks for showing us that this bothers you, so much. I prefer to spend my time with gentlemen who share a mutual respect for us as humans, and kindness is very attractive. If you can't afford it, then STFU.

How is what others do affecting you?
You made plenty of posts stating how much you pay and that you’ve had a hell of a good time.
If you were saying that you were getting crap service and felt pushed to pay I’d probably understand. As others have said, I’m not sure I get why you’re so bothered 🤷🏻‍♀️

I only just noticed your post. You packed a lot into it, and I agree with it all.
 
And a sincere 'thanks' for letting us play with your pussy. It really is priceless. I'm very grateful to you all for doing this. No way in the real world I can have sex on a whim with the variety of women that your industry opens up to me.

This topic still generates discussion. My usual stance is that these posts have zero influence on rates. Now I am beginning to think they might make guys willing to pay more.

Yep, my uncle had Earl and his boys paint his '64 Rambler wagon for the aforementioned "$19.95"

Actually, $299/399/x99 -- makes little sense from a practical standpoint.  Instead of three crisp 100s in the envelope, you gotta mess with more paper and ones.  Or I suppose you could say "keep the change."

I painted two old cars for cheap. Where did the co. go? They would paint on top of the old paint so if the old paint was cracking and falling off that's what you would get. I guess guys who would or could remove the old paint and prepare the car themselves would get a decent paint job.  

It's really hard to not pay those prices. Let's say you knew every guy in your town and you convinced everyone not to see her at her rate until she lowered her rate. Will she lower her rate? Nope. Not at all. Because all she has to do is tour to another city that will pay her price. We're stuck paying their rates. The only way she would lower her rate is if she didn't tour. Typically the ones that don't tour have a day job, so not getting booked isn't too much of an issue. Eventually someone will come along and pay their rates.

It's supply and demand, IMHO. T

An Escort usually charges a high amount.  What you get is (usually) somebody not on drugs who checks herself often for disease.

As usual, a great response  from you

....its so that...in case of an"accident"after a measly hour of sex...i know that any"accidents" wont become someone like you....does the word JACKASS mean anything to you???...go home/buy 2 jars of Vaseline and save your cash....AND its y'all btw

Yes, I know, there is a board for politics, so I will try to make this as gentle as I can.

fwiw - it just wasn't Jimmy Carter,  Inflation was high during 1972-1976 and during Reagan's first two years.  What was the absolute killer was interest rates which I believe went up to almost 20% between the late 70's and early 80's.  

IF your looking for value you should just jerk off.    The payment for services should be from incremental funds that don't matter.    In terms of who your bragging too about going to a hooker,   that's a truly sad experience.   These times with these ladies should be kept to ourselves and our hedonistic labidos.

I remember where I was living - working in 1982 (Reagan). I had a friend who wanted a small loan to buy a car. His English wasn't so good so I offered to help. One of the big national chains of small lenders (pre-internet; lots of TV and radio ads; I don't remember the name) was asking 25% interest on a 6-month loan of $1000 ... and they wanted collateral to secure the loan. The prime rate was 18.5%. 1982. Reagan.

For any interested in that period of inflation, an perhaps what to expect in terms of timing and impacts as related to policy, the short bit on Volcker's 1979 policy action might be of interest.

As someone who is formerly the owner of a German luxury car, I felt this hit home hard (not really the worrying about the Joneses so much as the mechanic every month),