I will try and answer this question w a bit of tact.
Perhaps you and the other gentlemen here could do a small simple exercise for me. Envision yourself as a male provider offering yourself to women the way we do for you..now it doesn't matter what you look like or who you are so that you may not offer an excuse...its obvious there's a market for everyone of every flavor. Now also keep in mind it also doesn't matter how stunning your client may be either as the women are doing the choosing....and so gentlemen, I ask you... just how would you market yourself and set your rates accordingly to meet the needs of these women requesting your ever so manly services? Inquiring minds would like to know..... Perhaps only then will "delusional" possibly become devoid in your vocabulary in this gesture. Perhaps.... being the key word.... I wish you luck.
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
Women choose their prices and yes they get them. Some of the super high end gals end up dropping their rates, especially if they travel to a different location.
Of course if the "customers" aren't calling, they always have the option to offer specials or drop their rates.
If you are a capitalist, you know that you are not going to maximize your earnings by starting out low.
women have the supply that men need to satisfy that demanding urge to get off. It is natural that if you want or crave something bad enough, you are going to do what it takes to accomplish it. Also men are weak minded and get bored easily, so they are always in search of something better, newer, more exciting etc... even if it means paying 2$$$ @ hour or more.
The basis of simple Micro-economics where the interaction of supply and demand determine price is that demand is homogeneous as well as supply--every consumer wants to buy an identical product, AND suppliers product an identical product.
Quite simply, the definitions/restrictions create an easy to understand model. Once one relaxes a definition/boundary observing the mechanics of the model becomes complicated. Relax boundaries, add variables, one must be conversant in “the rules”, jargon, within that discipline to begin to appreciate what is being model portrays.
Your “..strong capitalistic approach..” might simply be your perception of the benefits you'd receive in relation to funds you'd have to do without to receive them.
Notice that funds you give up can only be judged/valued in relative terms to the benefits lost by not having the funds.
Consider the extremes, for example some one with wealth of Warren Buffet vrs some one living in a shelter viewing a $600 donation.
What is wonderfully interesting an individual doing grocery shopping in more than one store to save $15 while that same person might not be willing to go more than one location to save the identical amount when purchasing a motor vehicle.
Physicists can measure the forces and results of a ball rolling down an incline plane. Those studying human behavior have to account for a subject that goes half way down the incline, turns around and goes back to the top.
Reality is far to complex for our minds to hold, even if every variable could be known with certainty. Within our minds we model everything that we remember, model what we perceive.
Consider that your model of Capitalism might be lacking key components.
Your model with highly varied heterogeneous demand in a market with a highly varied category of supply does not seem to be robust enough to mimic what occurs in the “market”.
An easy read for insight to the complexity of consumer behavior is “Prospect Theory” by Kanahman and Treversky which should be available on the web.
Deprived
Oh! Simply because I squeak when I walk doesn't indicate I'm a capitalist, I'm just tight (with $$), also known as cheap.
AND, as is well publicized, and strongly asserted by many members of a large influential tribe in the USA, since I believe in a one-payer health system like Medicare, for every USA citizen, I'm one of the evil socialists out to destroy our country. )
With the Girl I'm seeing, her Clients don't or can't see her quite as often as they used to. According to what she tells me. When I first had a Session with her I paid her Full Price. As I kept seeing her, now I can pay half of her of Full Price and still get F.S.
You remind me of the old ladies who used to ask me why the steak I was to serve them cost so much. As soon as I heard bitching about the price? I knew I would get a shitty tip.
Guess what the bitchy people got? Use your imagination.. I sure did!
PSA. Never fuck with the people who serve your food.
Your reviews indicate you hobby in the Carolinas, I don't hobby there, so I have no idea at what level you think the lady is delusional. Donations vary widely by city and state. My advice, play at a level you can afford and don't worry about what fees a providers requests.
Remember, some providers, don't do this for a living, and don't want to see a lot of clients, so they intentionally set fees above the average for the local market.
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
sounds like you might be a little insecure about yourself to make that statement IMO. is it delusional to pay 75k for that new Infiniti? how about 200 for one meal at a high end place? not to the guy making 300k a year it aint. keep driving that honda and let others drive what they want.
You buying romance , sensuality given by a beautiful woman ....or a happy meal served by a fugly !
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
women who charge nutso rates have another job or a sugar pop. it's not that complicated to figure out. the more you charge the less you work. some want it that way i guess. not a single woman you reviewed even rates an 8 overall. that should answer your question about who is delusional.
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
I recently had an appointment with a porn star that was 2k plus an hr and it was amazing. She said she makes more escorting than doing movies, she isn't a huge industry name but has been a feature star in 30+ movies over the last 2+ yrs. When I was living in NY in the early 2000's there were a number of ladies charging 900 an hr plus. Based on having to book appointments so far in advance I d say they were doing pretty well then. I guess the way I look at it is if she is overpriced it will limit her business but maybe that's what she wants. Even priced at 5k an hr I imagine she gets some business or else she wouldn't be able to keep a website running ect. Also maybe she has regular or grand fathered in clients that are getting a much different rate. I had a regular in NY that was regularly $900 an hr, but would give OTC time and even free dates fairly often to regulars. In the end it s her business. Regardless of if it works for her or not. I can imagine the clientele changes quite a bit between charging $150 an hr and $1000 an hr. It's a way for a provider to be selective and probably adds some security just by being exclusive. Even if it's just through the fact that you have to see 70% fewer clients to pay your bills each month.
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
that if you charge an outrageous amount for an item or service and act like you deserve it, some customers will buy into the image that you are selling. Of course, that's only one facet of pricing, and certainly there are providers whose services are clearly worth more than others.
I suspect that you are interested in a bargain. For that I can not blame you. In fact, in many ways you are a man after my raised-by-a-depression-era-father, northeast-Yankee-skinflint heart.
So, if you have the time and patience, here's what you should do to satisfy that side of you:
Contact a number of providers you are interested in but make it clear to them you are not interested in paying the amount they state on their sites. You can offer what you think is right, or ask them to come up with an offer.
You will find that a high percentage won't even bother to respond you. Of those that do, you will find that the service is probably less than stellar with most, but a few will endeavor out of a feeling of duty to give you their A game.
How long this will take and at what cost, we can only speculate. Accurate stats for such things just aren't kept. Should you go forward and report back your findings, I think you will find a receptive audience here.
One problem I have with economists, is that they believe their field is a science akin to physics where they can count on repeatable and predictable responses to given stimuli.
In fact economics is a specialized field of psychology which we know is a lot more complicated than physics owing to the vicissitudes of the human brain. (or lack thereof 8o)
I don't know why economists insist on taking this attitude. Perhaps they think it somehow enhances their standing as scientists, but I admire the psychologist way more than the physicist.
The latter is more like map maker while the former is more like an explorer.
I can think of only one map maker (Mercator), but I can think of lots of explorers. One even has a holiday named for him.
Many who advertise 500/h or above prices are the first to POUNCE on an ISO as if it's the first bonified offer in two months. There are also many shrewd gals in their late Dirty-Thirties who have manipulated their way into the 9.0 and above aggregate.
My 'Rule of thumb' is: RESEARCH! And be VERY VERY suspicious of providers with five or more consecutive 10/10s in their recent review history.
In short; An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure.
Whether it's someone's job or not, it is certainly something that women who do this think about a lot, ok? Do you think they're stupid? Don't call them delusional. Move on, don't judge. I think it's delusional when a guy thinks because he is paying he is to be the center of attention and the only one to be pleased. But that's just me. I'm one of thousands of experiences he can have so if it's not a fit, I prefer to know and move on.
In NYC I hate when someone invites me to Tao or Sushi Sanba, I think they're overpriced establishments. But I don't think they're delusional, they're still popular with certain people. And what about bottle service for hundreds of $$ at rooftop lounges? Not my thing but still they're around.
If they just started and they chose the wrong level then perhaps you're right, they need more experience, but after a few months, they know or they won't survive.
Like the rather average looking hookers from places like NYC who tour down south and still expect to command $500+, and then come on the boards and bash the "cheap hobbyists" in places like Dallas or Atlanta when their phone goes silent.
A woman is free to price herself at whatever price she wants, and as customers the guys are free to either say yes or no to that rate. If a woman can still get work at $1,000 hr or whatever price she puts on herself, then she clearly is not delusional, but when that same woman starts carping about how slow business is, THEN she is delusional, and there are literally hundreds of examples of BSC hookers who are downright delusional about their rates.
That said, I have no idea who or what the OP is talking about, I've seen guys call women who charge "as little" as $400 hr delusional or he could be talking about a porn star who charges $2K
Why shouldn't a girl price at $500 or $1,000 if she seeks to be a Tao or Sushi Sanba? There will be hobbyists that are of serious means that couldn't care less if they are overpaying based on an arbitrary view of value, they just want to have what they perceive to be the best and the yardstick they are using is price. For me personally it's not that I wouldn't pay $1k for a mindblowing experience, it's that I can't be GUARANTEED that experience and I don't value the possibility that highly...in other words, diminishing marginal returns
My favorite place here is called No Name Bar, because it doesn't have a name, you research how to order, you go downstairs to the basement, not many words just hand the receipt to show what you ordered upstairs and that you paid for it, and you get THE BEST and authentic Thai noodles on this continent with a hint of hipsterdome, all for about $12.
Cool, I Googled it...Brooklyn? I grew up in the Bronx and then Long Island and I get back to midtown Manhattan every year around March/April but never to Brooklyn, maybe I'll look you up for tour guide (and other) services!
I get to choose who I see STILL and see less folks; spend more time focused on my personal life and other obligations than answering emails.
I priced myself for a market I desired. I've been indy for over a year and sometimes its good to give yourself a raise.
Theres no one size fits all formula. Some ladies may desire to see one gent a week. Or month. Just as a guy might budget his play money for every week or month accordingly.
There are plenty of people who charge 'ridiculous' rates but if they're getting it then is it that ridiculous?
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
most ladies in that area are white and over 35, some chubby. you are thin, asian, very mature for your young age, and smoking hot with natural breastisis. you have a niche market as they say. nothing about you is like the other ladies in that area, so they will pay more to be with you. courtney s another one that has a unique look with that short hair.
but I will admit, if I lived in the Carolinas I most likely would become one of her regulars for the very reasons you cite, and I really wouldn't care about the extra couple of bucks.
Two hundreds bucks for an old fat white woman, compared to $400 for a smoking asian, yes the choice would be easy for me
No offense to the "old fat white women" of the Carolinas intended. I am sure some of you are quite lovely.
You're about as classy as they come. And to the other fella there are some old chubby women around here just like anywhere else. But there are plenty of smoking hot perfectly built ladies here too. Miss Aria is definatly unique only gal I ever met that knew as much about guns and blasting shit as I did and then after that wonderful conversation could totally rock your world!!
Know and later , okay let's say a 10 year plan ...so 400 , 250 for know 150 towards retirement, 500 know 200 for retirement ? See they don't have a 401k plan , but doubt many invest wisely !! But they should ...but this guy spends 100 and in his area there are a lot of hot girls for around 250 ...however if he is having fun and enjoying himself , the guy spending 400 or more is fucking dumb ? And in a sense , he's correct ! I mean your fucking and leaving correct ???
How do you know most doesn’t save or use it for a good purpose such as meeting some goal in their lives. I know a few attending universities, really, not lies.
People like you make me want puke because you have stereo type providers and have low opinion of women in general
However I also know many who aren't ...its called life , if you believe most of the ladies here can convert cash into long term savings I have a bridge to sell you !
Stereo type ? U know how many guys I know who make 6 figures who have 0 worth ? A lot ! You don't get a general statement ? Yeah just like the guy who thinks most of these girls are booked 4 to 5 days and guys are throwing money at them , okay ...another myth !
Posted By: anonymousfun
How do you know most doesn’t save or use it for a good purpose such as meeting some goal in their lives. I know a few attending universities, really, not lies.
People like you make me want puke because you have stereo type providers and have low opinion of women in general.
I will try and answer this question w a bit of tact.
Perhaps you and the other gentlemen here could do a small simple exercise for me.
Envision yourself as a male provider offering yourself to women the way we do for you..now it doesn't matter what you look like or who you are so that you may not offer an excuse...its obvious there's a market for everyone of every flavor. Now also keep in mind it also doesn't matter how stunning your client may be either as the women are doing the choosing....and so gentlemen, I ask you... just how would you market yourself and set your rates accordingly to meet the needs of these women requesting your ever so manly services?
Inquiring minds would like to know.....
Perhaps only then will "delusional" possibly become devoid in your vocabulary in this gesture. Perhaps.... being the key word....
I wish you luck.
Posted By: CPTCrash79
I often find it interesting how certain providers price themselves. I have a strong capitalistic approach to all money transactions. So I often wonder, when looking at various provider's sites, is the lady delusional or actually getting the fee requested?
It's just stupid. I mean, a fuck is a fuck...you are paying for a damn hole, after all.
I give great service at $50/hr and that is why I am able to see 15 clients per day.
If a dude is just blowing a nut...he doesnt need much.. As long as I treat him like he is the only one in the room with me while he is there (except when I'm on the phone or thinking about what kind of rhinestones i want to get embedded into my acrylic nails), and I hide all the used condoms... what more can he really ask? I guess I could shower but my philosophy is to never make anyone wait in the motel parkimg lot for more than an hour.
Is that those in high supply (the blonde bombshells, for the most part) are also the ones in high demand and plenty of them command the highest rates. Obviously the hobby falls out of the realm of the typical, but, in my time as a provider, and making friends with others, it always astounds me that those who are, say, more unconventional, aren't always the ones in high demand. It's sort of a slap in the face to everything we know about economics, wouldn't you say? Someone should do a study...
If it is not for you move on. Not all providers want to entertain everyone who is interested in them. I turn down calls everyday & have for years now, do to lack of chemistry. $ is not everything, but when you market yourself at a higher level & require deposits to book your going to cut out a bunch of bs, time wasters & lames.
Sorry you feel the need to post this thread. How can you, or any other man put a price on what is not yours to offer?
Many providers, like myself offer more, than just sex.
Darling i think they forget everything that goes into a "Date" 4 star hotels aren't cheap, La Perla lingerie is definitely not cheap, perfumes,candles,nails,hair,sexy dress that isn't slutty= designer dress more money by the time the provider gets her 500 fee she spent at least 350 on trying to impress the CLIENT! And makes a profit of 150 if that, c'mon most of you guys come for a fantasy but don't take into consideration the effort and money that the provider put in SMH
Posted By: Madame Patricia
If it is not for you move on. Not all providers want to entertain everyone who is interested in them. I turn down calls everyday & have for years now, do to lack of chemistry. $ is not everything, but when you market yourself at a higher level & require deposits to book your going to cut out a bunch of bs, time wasters & lames.
Sorry you feel the need to post this thread. How can you, or any other man put a price on what is not yours to offer?
Many providers, like myself offer more, than just sex.
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