I haven't noticed other reviews without the envelope.
If it is someone with dual persona's as another poster suggested, TER could easily figure that out, unless the impostor is using a different identity and PC at another location.
Off the subject but if someone is harassing you or wasting your time via email there are many ways to determine their cave location.
http://www.infohq.com/Computer/Spam/finding-hackers-isp-using-ip-address.htm
I have a new review and think it is fake and yes, I am pretty sure where it came from. The person who might have wrote this review is not someone I have seen but someone I had words with in a PM. One can not fight city hall and this is such a game. Please read the review but more than that see who wrote the review with lack of an envelope next to his name.
Kisses Haley
may create a second TER account with a different handle of course, for that purpose.
I think that's against TER's TOS, so you may be able to report it to admin. There are way's they can track that sort of thing down.
HH
but not only does this handle not have an envelope, it also doesn't come up when doing a reviewer search, despite the fact the review obviously exists.
Haley, I would suggest the you contact Admin, this is above a lowly mod's power to do anything about, as we have nothing to do with the review process.
In the meantime, the review, fake or not, doesn't seem to be anything that would impact your business, I would hardly take it as a slam
and I hope it does not presage a shift in policy.
At the very least, Administration should investigate and clarify this.
...and you can't click on his name to see his other reviews. He is not properly registered with TER.
It is not a slam, even if it is fake. But I do get Your feeling that it is bullshit.
I haven't noticed other reviews without the envelope.
If it is someone with dual persona's as another poster suggested, TER could easily figure that out, unless the impostor is using a different identity and PC at another location.
Off the subject but if someone is harassing you or wasting your time via email there are many ways to determine their cave location.
http://www.infohq.com/Computer/Spam/finding-hackers-isp-using-ip-address.htm
I would contact admin. The one thing I can think of to explain the no envelope or online status is a reviewer who deleted his account after the review was posted. I know for us guys if a girl later has her account deleted her review still shows in our review numbers and our reviews that we can view. So maybe its the same for the ladies you get to keep the review even if the reviewer goes away.
Kisses Haley
I only saw 4 reviews for you so far this year and none of them were bad. Most were pretty happy.
I would guess the review has been pulled at least temporarily to see if it could be fake.
Any provider with dozens of reviews is bound to have a few that she felt were less than flattering.
I'll compare it to buying books on Amazon. If 39 people gave it 5/5 stars and 1 person gave it a 1/5 star I would consider that a great book.
I am sure that there are some fake reviews as TER does give free memberships to those who write 2 reviews a month. Kinda defeats the purpose IMO as the monthly cost is so trivial compared to seeing 2 providers/month.
I think you did the right thing by contacting TER admin if you think the review is BS. Fake reviews do us all a disservice.
Now I see what you are talking about - Yeah that does seem strange.
I wonder if a TER admin could enlighten us here?
I would guess the review has been pulled at least temporarily to see if it could be fake.
Any provider with dozens of reviews is bound to have a few that she felt were less than flattering.
I'll compare it to buying books on Amazon. If 39 people gave it 5/5 stars and 1 person gave it a 1/5 star I would consider that a great book.
I am sure that there are some fake reviews as TER does give free memberships to those who write 2 reviews a month. Kinda defeats the purpose IMO as the monthly cost is so trivial compared to seeing 2 providers/month.
I think you did the right thing by contacting TER admin if you think the review is BS. Fake reviews do us all a disservice.
I noticed this the other day, when looking at my alias list. Where you would add an alias there was a littel drop down menu discussionboard/review, I thought ok maybe for the reviewers only board. so I just now added the alias w.a.m.m went to submitt a review and there I could add that alias to a review I don't know if a review can be submitted that way and aproved, this would take away any integrity of a review.
Alias gave me a 7/7 . This is fine if he low balls all the girls he reviews but if I am singled out for some retaliation that's a different story.
By the way a Alias says to me something is strange. Why the need since everything he wrote was fine and about what everyone else has said about me. Should it have not been an alias I would have no complaints. No newbie would use an alias
Ladies are going to pull from the boards and the hell with posting or getting involved for this reason. Ads, ads, ads is what you'll get. I think I was slammed with my post about using an alias so doesn't this fit. Although even a lady in the know could do this as well to some provider she wants to get back at
I have been back a very short time and this is what things are going to be like here.
Speak up if anything I say here holds an ounce of truth
Kisses Haley
None of your conspiracy theory ideas hold much water IMO.
TER does not allow alias reviews, a 7/7 is nowhere near a bad score, truth be told I'd think you'd be thrilled to still be getting sevens at this stage of your career. The text of the review shows the reviewer seemed to be quite happy with you. We have had endless conversations here over the last few days about numerical scores and the folly of critiquing them.
"If' this was indeed an attempt to "slam" you, it was a piss poor one. I take it you have written to admin, let;s put the conspiracy theory speculation on hold at least long enough for admin to get back to you.
I'm not unhappy about the number but why the alias ? That's right you were one who posted I was wrong on my feelings about using an alias here.
I'm unhappy that an alias gave me a review. The numbers are lower than I usually get but as you said a lady in the game as long as me... OLDER ....ladies do pay special attention to this
Older has nothing to do with what quality a gentlemen get's from us. Cover BJ and no tongue kiss or no kiss at all for that matter can get a 7 for their skill level on TER. BBJ and kiss with tongue ups the score. But it is a man's preference on how he reviews a lady and that's fine but yes, I wonder if this is a slam because of the alias. Did he low score me because I upset him here or on another board.
Kisses Haley
you to more then a 7. It is a performance score, not a menu score.
You are just pissed because you can't identify the reviewer. Take it up with admin and see what they say about it. Until then, go out and get laid or something.
and if I even saw this man. Good way to get back at a lady without standing out to much. Write an OK review and lowball the numbers. Who would think there's a problem here. Yes, alias is the problem and why he wrote the review to begin with.
Under an alias the review is a waste
Kisses Haley
Hi Haley,
I don't know you or the reviewer so this comment is not directed at you personally.
I've seen some comments on another board about a guy getting blacklisted due to providing accurate reviews (in this case something along the lines of a 7, not a bad review but not a 9/10). With that sort of mentality floating around with some providers/bookers/agencies I can absolutely see a role for reviews with an alias. In fact in that thread several people confessed to not disclosing their TER IDs to providers so that they can review as they please without fear of reprisal; one even went so far as to say he had two accounts, one for good reviews and one for not-so-good or bad reviews. In a way I think this thread furthers that idea; had this alias reviewed you 10/10 would you have even bothered to post? Maybe this is an honest review (you seem to agree with the content) but he felt you might take offence to his numbers and wanted to avoid the confrontation.
Call it cowardice or sneaky or whatever you choose but I can see a role for that function if TER has decided to expose it. We can all adjust accordingly and discount aliased reviews if we choose. At the end of the day I tend to agree with the subjectivity of a number scale being largely arbitrary anyway and that's likely a poses a bigger problem than aliases do anyway.
My opinion for what it's worth
That had the review been published without an alias that the reviewer would have to endure her cross examination and whining via PM's.
...you have to take into account that ladies like myself remember each and every encounter that is reflected in a review.
Most of the time I don't even know that I'm seeing a reviewer. In fact, I'd prefer not to know. So, posting a review under an alias doesn't really make the reviewer anonymous when I know exactly who wrote the review based, 1) on the things they mention, and 2) how they form their sentences and their word choice.
With that said, its extremely easy for me to spot a fake, even if it falls in line with verbiage of the reviews that are already posted.
xox
Colette
Point taken, there is no true or complete anonymity in this world. With a low volume provider who doesn't follow a script it's likely fruitless to even attempt
The context I saw it in was Korean providers where a guy was banned by a booker and wasn't able to see any girls that booker was associated with anymore. Given volumes and the general Korean provider pattern he'd have been much less likely to be outed had there been an alias involved. Independents, maybe not so much.
How he scores.
Some guys score high, some medium and so on.
So I read the review and then I look at his scoring history.
I also like to see if he has seen someone I have seen and then I read what he said about her.
I don't care one way or another about an alias or not, as long as all of the reviews are shown.
It helps me decide whether to see someone.
If there is no review history, I ignore his review completely as it could be a fake or even something worse.
Or it could be a newbie....
Balboa
First off you are obviously confused about what I wrote, Or would you please direct me to where I posted about your feelings about an alias.
Secondly, how the fuck do we know whether or not a 7/7 is a high or low score from this particular reviewer since we have no reviewing history.
Thirdly, just where the fuck do you, or any other provider get off demanding scores of 8's 9' or 10's? Who ever this person is, once that is determined is free to rate you as high or as low as he sees fit. You don't get to dictate the scores and you are making a very good case FOR anonymous reviewing.
Now get over yourself, or take your whining back to Florida.
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of providers carping about scores in the sevens and eights?
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and TER doesn't have "a" moderator who allows it, both of us are agreed on what is or is not against TER rules.
Unless it breaks a rule, it going to be allowed. I/we don't believe in curtailing free speech on this or any other board, the fact that your sniveling posts are allowed should be proof enough to that fact.
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this is exactly why most providers don't post here. We already know how you feel, all of us ladies do.
You said "you should be thrilled to get 7's at this stage of my career" some men like mature ladies and think I am a 9. But i'm sure at this point they'll be a lot more fake reviews coming my way...hell I get little from TER these days and I pay for VIP. For what, so you can put me down. I guess the guys who write fake reviews can ad my money to the pot
did you not understand what i said
Have a good weekend
Kisses Haley
CARPING,,,never heard the word, but its to fucking funny!!! lmao
as such it should be disallowed. Who writes a review and THEN cancels their membership? Something is fishy.
I decided to check and see if this was an allowed TER feature and it is. I went to the 'My TER' alias management section and discovered that one could add an alias either for the discussion boards OR for reviews.
IMO the reason for this is that some providers get jealous over reviews and make life difficult for the reviewer. It has been discussed a few times here and there.
Now this may not apply to your situation. Since TER mods and admins can "see past" any alias if it is a fake review it should be able to be sorted out.
While I sympathize with the hobbyists that see this as necessary, I also think it is going to create headaches for Admin and mods..... just an opinion.
That's a biggie. I wonder if the mods can even see who is behind a "review alias" like they can a board posting alias.
i wonder....
but SOTF is correct, apparently reviewing under an alias is now permitted.
I guess I didn't get the memo, nor did anyone else. lol
i would think it reasonable for mods to be able to see who is behind any alias. otherwise i could see a very heavy workload for Admin coming down.
likely there was no memo. i expect this is going to be an extremely controversial feature.
While I have seen the posts from guys who are pressured to modify or remove a review, allowing posting a review with an alias does away with a lot of the good benefits of the whole review board system if widely used. No way for other guys to contact with questions, but more importantly where is the review history that tells us a lot about the reviewer. I have taken chances on a lady with only one review when the reviewer had a good track record. Plus if it is a true review it doesn't hide the reviewer from the lady in the least. As has already been stated and I have seen it with several providers you could read a review to a provider without showing them the name at all and they will know immediately who it was. How do you think they can so easily give us references, because they remember the little details that makes you different from everyone else they have seen. So I see no major benefit in this and plenty of drawback, it even makes it easier for LE to set up a sting using TER reviewed decoys, no review history to cross check.
in my account, i can't see why i'd ever use it. there are other ways to deal with pressure to change a review or other negative review fallout.