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European vs US Providers
munchinmuffin 76 Reviews 1228 reads
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1 / 43

Having been in the hobby now for a number of years, and having had the opportunity to do so in many different cities (both in the US and EU), it seems to me that I have noticed one important difference and I was wondering if others have come to the same conclusion.  When hobbying in europe, apart from the girls being very attractive, I have found them consistently to be open to more activities in the bedroom.  For instance, I have never had a lady in europe not swallow.  I'm sure there are some who dont, but I havent come across one yet.  I have had quite a few providers in the US who dont swallow however.  In addition, the vast majority of EU providers will travel to Greece.  And not only will they do so, they appear to really enjoy it and encourage this activity.  In the US, I have found some who do, and some who love it, but the vast majority dont offer it.  Finally, I have found many providers in the EU who enjoy performing prostrate stimulation during passionate sex...again not easily found here in the US.  In many publications and editorials, many writers from abroad will say we in the US are quite prudish, and frankly up tight about sex (hence lack of nudity on TV, illegality of escorting, lack of nude or topless beaches in most beach towns, the list goes on and on).  Europeans seem to have a more open, healthy, non judgemental attitude about sex and it seems to me that its manifested on the activities providers in the EU will engage in with clients.  Not only do they engage in them, in my experience they are damn good at them.  What do others think?  Anyone experience the same thing?

BeenStrokin 663 reads
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2 / 43

European, and even Canadian women are much more open, have larger menus, are more likely to ass fuck (without Extra charge), and Euros, & Canadian girls are more likely to swallow.  That's why so many Euro providers are cutting into the $250-$500 American provider's market share and clients.  If girl want to make money they nee to lose the attitude, and expand the menus!

BeenStrokin 659 reads
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3 / 43

Posted By: BeenStrokin
European, and even Canadian women are much more open, have larger menus, are more likely to ass fuck (without Extra charge), and Euros, & Canadian girls are more likely to swallow.  That's why so many Euro providers are cutting into the $250-$500 American provider's market share and clients.  If girls want to make money they need to lose the attitude, and expand their menus!
I see and hear American girls all over the east coast whining about how bad business is, and that they wish they had more business, and were making more money.  Well it's not that difficult ladies.  Get your body in shape, and expand your menu. Add anal sex to your menu, learn to like the taste of a man's juice, and get your body toned.  The Latins, Euros, and Canadians are eating your lunch and taking a big piece of your clientele.  It's true.

aces8 3 Reviews 598 reads
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4 / 43

Nudity has been accepted long ago.  The North Europeans head south in the winter and spring and can't wait to take their clothes off.

As for sex, I noted a strange thing while studying in Sweden, I found the Swedes to be almost as prudish we.  They watch what they  eat  and follow the rules until they leave the country and there is a noted change.

Three hours away is Denmark where anything goes when it comes to sex.  

I can only talk about civie  girls because I was  I went there hearing it was known for "Free Sex"  and as a student that's all I could afford.

bluepillman 416 reads
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5 / 43

In the EU, prostitution is either legal or decriminalized and for the most part, the cost is lower as well. Many more women there than the US get involved in it, on a per capita basis. More competition breeds more pressure to offer more services and lower prices. Look at it this way. If McDonalds were the only fast food restaurant in America, do you really think they would be offering salads, apple slices, lattes and fresh baked cookies? Think they'd have a dollar menu?

aces8 3 Reviews 432 reads
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6 / 43

First of all, many of us forget that almost all of East Europe and a good part if not all of the Balkans are now part of the EU and many like the old way where it wasn't legal and it still isn't.

Your point about competition is well taken.  Prostitutes in Belarus (not part of the EU) said the same thing as you.  They pointed to Amsterdam, where it has been flaunted as legal the longest. which has the most prostitutes at the lowest prices. (according to them)

TGBX 1 Reviews 624 reads
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7 / 43

Depends on which women you are seeing, and also what you are asking for.  There are many American escorts who have very wide menus.

Even if the American menus were smaller, the menu is only part of the meal.  How it is prepaired matters very much, and there are excellent cooks on both sides of the pond.

"So many Euro providers are cutting into the $250-$500 American provider's market share" for the same reason your other goods are now made overseas.  Labor rates are less.

saturnsky 633 reads
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8 / 43

for the rest of my life...sure. And when spooge tastes like chocolate, I'll freaking suck every client dry...until then, saying "learn to like", would be like telling you to learn to like sucking cock and swallowing.

Not all of us are hurting and not all of us  need to do something we are not comfortable with. I don't much care if I and others like me are called prudes..I guess I see men that are fine with my limitations..it seems you hobbyists are the only ones wanting everything for less. And there are plenty of women out there who can oblige. Choose from that pool and leave the rest alone.

munchinmuffin 76 Reviews 347 reads
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9 / 43

Competition is a good point.  Economic theory still holds true the laws of supply and demand and cost.  Big supply, low cost.  So while its true that some EU countries may have more active sex workers, I'm not sure if its the case that the number of them totally overwhelm the number of providers in a comparable large city.  Take New York.  If you go on the eros or other websites you will find hundreds of providers (and those are the ones that advertise on that particular site).  Plenty of girls are local providers, many others travel through for a few days but there certainly seems to be an abundance of providers in major cities like NY, LA, SF, DC etc.  I think the competition factor in europe helps explain the willingness of providers to engage in a greater variety of services, but I think its also very likely due to the openness and greater comfort levels of sexuality that explains why trips to greece are so easy to find consistenly there but not here.  I have noticed that when a lady from europe comes to the US for an overseas tour, she is often bringing her wide menu range with her and is often fully booked on her tour....and she is offering the same rates as domestic suppliers.  An open minded girl could really clean up here!

nahtynikkey See my TER Reviews 556 reads
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10 / 43

LOL, how does not swallowing or offering Greek equate to being prude or having an attitude? How about some ladies just don't want a strangers dick in their mouths without a cover.... I'm quite sure that many ladies who don't swallow with clients, probably do so with their SO or husband. And as far as Greek goes.. some ladies love it, some tolerate it, & others hate it... it's a personal choice. And what was stated by Ms.S is very true.... your ass was not meant for that, & eventually, the muscles/sphincter will no longer be able to do their job.

Posted By: BeenStrokin
European, and even Canadian women are much more open, have larger menus, are more likely to ass fuck (without Extra charge), and Euros, & Canadian girls are more likely to swallow.  That's why so many Euro providers are cutting into the $250-$500 American provider's market share and clients.  If girl want to make money they nee to lose the attitude, and expand the menus!

bluepillman 457 reads
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11 / 43

As bad as the US economy has been over the past 6 years, the EU's is much worse. That may have also have flooded their market with many more sex workers than the US, effecting price and menu options. Also, and this is just an educated guess, I would believe that the US escort is more likely to have a day job in addition to her escorting whereas the EU escort may not have another job to get income from. So, at the end of the day, the EU escort may be more motivated to have a larger menu and may not really have a choice if she wants the amount of works she needs. Just a thought.

BeenStrokin 427 reads
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12 / 43

Providers that are willing to satisfy a man on many levels with large menus are going to succeed and make the most money.  I don't know how CBJ girls can even make a living?

sethric56 14 Reviews 489 reads
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13 / 43

perhaps the ladies that come over from Europe get booked quickly because... We just like the accent. I had a friend in college from Australia, he scored women left and right.

For me you give me a nice little hottie with a British accent... And it's on. That said, when I see the reviews for European girls, I don't see that their menu is any more or less expansive then Americans. Just my opinion.

aces8 3 Reviews 751 reads
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14 / 43

You wonder why they're prostitutes.  Aren't they suppose to do what we want.  Provider friend said well that's what the reviews are for.  The reviews can't be relied on.  You can't call the gal up and ask.  I once called a provider trying to be as cool as I could and asked her if everything under services in her reviews in TER were correct.  She hung up on me.  Indiscreet, then when she comes in I'll show it too her, if I don't get a yes, send her home--blacklist  if you let them intimidate you, they own you.  You have a right to know TER isn't always correct!

bluepillman 272 reads
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16 / 43

Dont know what women you are seeing. The quality of women I have been seeing is incredible. Just saw an amazing GFE from NYC and she def. doesnt need to shut up more. In fact, she doesnt need to "shut up" at all.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 423 reads
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17 / 43

Posted By: nahtynikkey
LOL, how does not swallowing or offering Greek equate to being prude or having an attitude? How about some ladies just don't want a strangers dick in their mouths without a cover.... I'm quite sure that many ladies who don't swallow with clients, probably do so with their SO or husband. And as far as Greek goes.. some ladies love it, some tolerate it, & others hate it... it's a personal choice. And what was stated by Ms.S is very true.... your ass was not meant for that, & eventually, the muscles/sphincter will no longer be able to do their job.
Posted By: BeenStrokin
European, and even Canadian women are much more open, have larger menus, are more likely to ass fuck (without Extra charge), and Euros, & Canadian girls are more likely to swallow.  That's why so many Euro providers are cutting into the $250-$500 American provider's market share and clients.  If girl want to make money they nee to lose the attitude, and expand the menus!

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 493 reads
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18 / 43

About the stupidest thing ever. Considered running for any office?

cutehunkie 70 Reviews 457 reads
posted
19 / 43

There are certain limitations US providers face vis-a-vis European providers.

1) I find that first meetings with US providers are more tense, because this is considered illegal and US providers always have that doubt whether you are L.E. or not.  In Europe where providing is legal, there's no fear.  On the hobbyist part, we also fear that there might be L.E. looking to round up johns.  So, that kind of tension is not in European encounters.  Well,  this is not the fault of the ladies.  I blame the US laws for being prudish and not making this job legal.

*This is why once I repeat and have an regular, it's more relax and we go much further .. more uninhibited.

2)   When I hobbied in Europe, there was less GFE stuff available than in the US.   The ladies in Europe does more CBJ than BBBJ, so I don't agree with you - I think you just encountered ladies who swallow, but not all do.    A few months ago, I saw someone who hobbied in Germany and he said 'no kissing, and no bbbj .. all covered'.  So your generalization is false, and does not apply to all European providers.   If you look at some porno stuff done in France and EU,  they use condoms.  Most US porn star don't use rubber.

saturnsky 335 reads
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20 / 43

Not all men want the same things a hobbyist does and your little center of the world is smaller than you think. There are plenty of us doing very well and we don't have do "everything". The way you talk, it's like any women who does not do whatever a guy wants can't make it....I am telling you we can...we just have a different demographic.

saturnsky 326 reads
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21 / 43

To our guys we see, we are just what the doctor ordered. If a lady does not provide a service you want, why not just find someone who will, instead of the negative connotative label for those who don't?

ring1975 1 Reviews 520 reads
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22 / 43

Or rather, true sexuality? American culture is schizophrenic- it teaches a conflicting message to women about their identity and then condemns them for embracing their actual sexuality ( men, too). One of the side effects of this seems to be that actual, true femininity is sometimes washed away by cultural demands.
I don't think it a coincidence that many of the top providers are highly feminine and self-assured.

hott_brie See my TER Reviews 437 reads
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23 / 43

Maybe a lot of these American providers would be more willing to offer more of a "menu" and get more in shape if the American men were a little nicer to them.  But the average American male seems to think that women owe him a free piece of ass just for the asking.  They have a grandiose sense of entitlement and so do a lot of guys in this hobby.  No offense, but a lot of guys in this hobby want to spend as little as possible and get as much action as they can.  They expect something for nothing.  This very attitude is a turn off to most women.  Who wants to do business with someone like that who is always haggling and begging for a discount and expecting all the extras for it as well.  Would you?  How profitable do you think you would be if you did?  

Now as for Europe and Canada, a lot of European men also realize that if they want sex with a woman that they are going to have to pay for it one way or another, because that's just how relationships with other people work.  They know that they will have to give up something themselves in order to receive.  It's called give and take.  

Maybe if you were a little friendlier to these ladies and a little more gentle and put some work into your appearance yourselves, they would be a lot more "open" and less prudish.  Another thing that I wanted to point out is that in Europe and Canada, you don't see nearly as many obese men and.  In general, they seem to put some effort into their appearance.   I mean no offense to anyone here, but trying to get into the mood to have sex with a guy who is 300 lbs, hairy and twice your age is no easy task ESPECIALLY if they are tight with the buck on top of it all.  Picture yourself having to fuck a fat woman twice your age with moles all over who isn't clean shaven for just a couple hundred bucks.  Well, that's what many of us deal with.  

But, MOST OF ALL, a little personality goes a long way.  Even the ugliest of guys can find their way into a woman's heart if they put on a little charm, are warm-hearted, easy-going, gentle and nice.  And lose the attitude of because I pay you a few bucks, you are my  slave and I should be able to treat you as badly as I feel like.

bluepillman 349 reads
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24 / 43
bluepillman 226 reads
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Butterscotch13 2 Reviews 224 reads
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26 / 43

Yep. Me too.  And that's a great part of the fun.  A lot of guys (and ladies) here feel differently, and that is up to them

Btw, I think of myself as a professional, in a service oriented business, and I don't do WHATEVER my clients/customers want. I don't know many businesspeople who do.  I believe one of the prior posters thinks that that general rule does not apply to prostitutes.

As long as you're happy, man, that's ok by me.

But I don't agree, and IMHO you may be shorting yourself.

Posted By: bluepillman

Butterscotch13 2 Reviews 313 reads
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27 / 43

Ooo, you are in a mood.  Absolutely, you are entitled to both your opinion and to decide how and where to spend your money

Of course, I did say that in my previous post, so I'm not sure what your point is except to vent at whatever.  That's fine with me too.  Hope it makes you feel better.

Posted By: Back_In_Black
you see women with attitudes i do ! Do you see foul language i do ! Do you see the greedy bs i do ! Oh and Ashley Mad . Com whos FUCKIN WHO ? So fuck off ! My Fucking opinion im entitled to it okay !

Butterscotch13 2 Reviews 390 reads
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28 / 43

Peppermint Patty is just fine, thanks.  I read her your post from my phone, and she interrupted sucking my dick long enough to ask me to send you (and the goat - whatever that means - ) her very special regards.  Between you and me, I think she's kind of sweet on you.  Lucy is doing well as a Dominatrix these days, which I guess is an example of putting her essential bitchiness to good use.  Not my thing, though.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 349 reads
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29 / 43

Other than that when I comes, you don’t have a clue what it stands for.  Kissing ass will get you every where so, keep on stupid.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 367 reads
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30 / 43

I find about 25% of providers I see love (Or seem to love, I should say.) the taste of cum.  They often insist on tasting my cum.  I've also found this true with some civies I've known, and as I think about it, it's in about the same proportion as the escorts I see.

So, that said (and other hobbyists, feel free to share your experience.)

Do you providers find that:

1.  You hate the taste of cum and have never and will never allow CIM?

2.  Hate it but allow it as it's part of the job description?

3.  Started off hating it, but did so of necessity and found later it was not so bad, and in time it grew on you to the point where you enjoy it?  (sort of the Pernod effect)

4.  Have always loved it.

5.  Other?  (Please amplify.)

Inquiring minds would love to know.

cwillzx 15 Reviews 190 reads
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31 / 43
London Rayne See my TER Reviews 319 reads
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32 / 43

Most of you are never going to get what we might give a BF or Husband, for any amount of money...it really is that simple. I won't swallow here period, and greek will always be extra because it is not something one should be doing 'on demand.' That's the part most of you idiots miss. It is one thing to have 4 hours with a guy, let things naturally progress, juices start flowing, and then that time for greek comes, but this is not that way. You have a guy booking anal sex at 3 p.m. next Monday, and have no way in hell to know if your body will crave it or if you will even be attracted to the damn guy. Also consider the damn condom...I hate doing greek with a condom, but here it is a MUST. Yes, I charge extra...because I CAN.

saturnsky 470 reads
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33 / 43


Although being gay does not explain how very heterosexual ladies dislike it...the smell is what really gets me.  And the consistency...it's like having a mouthful of warm snot...sorry but that's the best way I can describe it.

-- Modified on 12/2/2012 10:30:05 AM

cutehunkie 70 Reviews 459 reads
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34 / 43

I agree with you that the US culture has its own weaknesses, as the more religious parts of the country condemns the show of sexuality.  In fact, at one point in time, 'Dancing' was considered evil in some backward communities, more so with 'dirty dancing' even in the 1980s - hence the movie was popular.

However, recently, for example, San Francisco laws made nudity illegal.   In Europe, when you go walk around the parks during summer, you'll see a lot of ladies topless and just in a string bikini sunbathing.  I've always enjoyed that sight living in Europe.  I normally see my lady neighbors stark naked walking around in the flats/apartments.   I once went to a sauna in Vienna, Austria and  2 guys and 2 ladies joined me - the ladies were fully naked of course and even asked me to take my towel off LOL even if they were with the boyfriends.

Such behavior is not acceptable in many parts of the US.

zackster66 387 reads
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35 / 43

I live and hobby in France. Many of the girls don't do anal at all. They tend to be independents. The agency girls do more anal and other extras because the agency generally doesn't take a cut. The standard rate at the moment for 1 hour incall is 250 euros and anal is from 50 to 100 more. Like Rayne they reserve the right to say no in case of oversized equipment. It is a much cooler scene without LE  so the biggest problem is choosing. On the main internet sites there are over 200 girls on any day and this doesn't count the activities on the street and in the parks.

As for american women I will be travelling to San Diego and other parts of the States in February. I can't wait to meet some of the incredible american women that are on this website.

American culture is obsessed with sex to the point that if a politician has an affair he has to resign!
Women are denied the control of there own bodies in matters of health and economics. This past election had candidates discussing banning contraceptives in a blind attempt to stop sex.

AliasISsoCool 339 reads
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36 / 43

European women are a lot better than freaking American girls, unless you like fatter girls with more tattoos and attitude. I would go to Eastern European countries to see girls. America sucks

mrfisher 115 Reviews 472 reads
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38 / 43

You might change your mind somewhat if we met.

The taste of cum is determined to a great extent by the man's diet.

I drink a lot of pineapple juice which is known to sweeten the taste of cum.  I know for a fact because snow-balling is something I love and I noticed that my cum tasted much better after I started my pineapple juice regimen.

I also eat lots of fruits and vegetables, and not that much meat which also helps.

We are what we eat, after all.

I had a lesbian civie friend once who enticed me to have sex with her after I gave her a massage.  It was among the best sex I ever had, and she seemed to enjoy swallowing my cum too.

There's all types.

saturnsky 297 reads
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39 / 43

I have had that said to me more than once Mr. Fisher. And I don't doubt that your semen does taste nice. Does pineapple do anything for the smell?



mrfisher 115 Reviews 399 reads
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40 / 43

There is considerably less musk to the odor since I've started the pineapple juice regimen.

Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 443 reads
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41 / 43

I am Greek and spent he first part of my life in Greece. People are laid back and they want to enjoy life and have fun. That is a priority. I was always at the beaches in the summers and people were always topless. I am very comfortable with my body and I love sex.

When I am in a relationship I am open and up for anything. Appointments however, I DO have some limits. I just cannot do everything for everyone. Some things or offerings I do not offer, not because I do not like doing them, but, because I don't want to offer it to just anyone.

What I do offer I can say I am damn good at it. ;-)

I have been told from many the same thing about the differences they perceive to exist between the countries and it's escorts.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 402 reads
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42 / 43

They also tend to be more of the submissive type so all you boys needing your ass kissed and your ego stroked, can certainly find it there lol. We are full up on crazy here...sorry.

saturnsky 410 reads
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43 / 43


that would make it smell and taste like chocolate, we have a deal and you'd be hard pressed to get me off it...;)

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