I can jerk myself off, I can't massage my own back. Should I just find a LMT? When I want a massage I want a massage, If I want to get off, I'll hire a hooker

If you have insurance it may be cover. I get good ones from them. I even had workmens comp pay for then and pay me to get a massage.

so that you never have to bother a poor unsuspecting massage girl again.

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If what I want is a massage, and that's what she advertises, and that's what I'm paying for. and  all I get is a two bit message with a HJ. Something is a miss.

...Bang your back against a wall repeatedly.  Judging by your post, you've been doing it with your head for years so it should come easy for you.

I don't visit AMPS, so you don't need to think that's what/who I was referring to.

but it is not the easiest thing to find.  Once I do find them, I keep them.

... and others have had formal training or just have a knack for it.  It also depends what one is looking for in a massage from a provider: sensual, b2b, therapeutic.  A review may state the provider gave a great massage, but it was not the type of massage that someone else might be looking for.  That's where reading the Juicy Details for the provider's reviews can be a big help.  

Even to people not as smart as the average Asian, it's pretty obvious how stupid you are

of course belly button lint is smarter than FatVern, so I guess it's not saying much. lol

He is STUPID!!!

if you of course would trust my natural abilities to produce electro impulses

What did you find to be so stupid about my post?

Short notice not enough time or energy to fully appreciate the experience, sore back, and a tense neck what's a guy to do?

What ever you TL, what ever you say.

Go to an actual licensed masseuse. FBSM ladies are HJ and a body rub not a professional massage. Yes some can deliver professional level massages but it isn't what the majority of theit clients want. They are there for happy ending. Always go to a service provider thar specialize in the service you want. You don't go to taco stand to eat Chinese food.

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EOM

It's not a professional massage, but it can do the trick. The first few times the massage is on par, and the HJ is a bonus(but not what I'm there for). Then on the subsequent repeat visit/s the massage becomes subpar, followed by a HJ. This has happened with multiple ladies, hence my frustration.

It must be you. I see FBSM ladies as often as FS/GFE types and the massage quality remains somewhat constant and often their offerings expand. My experience does not mirror yours.

It's because they are lazy.  

You said it was multiple ladies. That is a different can of worms. There is only one common denominator and that is you. You ether can't pick them or you make it so they don't care if you come back. Ether way it is you. I haven't had that problem. Ladies tend to maintain or increase services offered as a rule. It must be you.

It proves that he is not the most incomprehensible poster on the board, or even on the thread.

That had a couple of mediocre reviews from guys complaining that they expected a massage, but were surprised when she wanted to have sex.  My first question to her was "did you accidentally post in the wrong section?"

there are others who are or were LMTs but it's hard to know from the ads.  Around here, I can get a LMT for $60 last I checked.  A MP will be at least $60 but expect a tip besides...  Or a Physical Therapist...  I have had very good results from a PT when my back was messed up.   Some back things are best done by a chirpractor or an old school Ostepathic doctor (DO).

They called me to come back. I think it's another common denominator TER doesn't like being discussed.

Youy dear still fitting rudiments of belonging to low status ... even you made it for yourself. I bet you are first generation of those who does somewhat well in life ? May be even some college ? What I doubt, actually.. you have so much insecrutites  .. Please read what physiology  states about such as you are :

Still you.

It's not me, when I have limited choices due to scheduling, geographical issues.