street grils I can find them much cheeper than web grils are they worth the risk

You get what you pay for. Years ago they were fine, now just a bunch of diseased crack heads.

...yeah, there are huge and logical reasons between price of girls that work on the street and us ladies on the net.

Many have to do with skills of pleasure; caliber of (hate to state it his way) the actual product, as street girls are no doubt used more because of thier cheap prices and they usually have a pimp or a drug habit; the cleanliness (and odor no doubt) of the girl in both major orafices; along with many other things you may be sacraficing like-- looks, brains, good (short) conversation, and all around higher quality... They also are quite often really old (which sucks), really young (which is illegal), and/or illegal citizens, runaways, and so on...

You also have to consider these major danger elements to go along with it: since your in the open, her pimp may be watching you, the police or security may be watching you-- and any one of them could stop you at any moment and do something to you. The girl could rob you, or hurt you or something and you've no reference or previous detail on the girl (i.e. TER) that would have saved you the trouble in the first place.

I have, to my shame, come to know some unsavory characters since I have moved to Vegas(most hustle casinos though), and many times I tried to elevate them from the dreggs of society (the ones I found to be worth it at least); showing them the ways of the internet, helping them to understand and telling them how to properly execute real business in this game. What I thought were diamonds in the rough were, indeed as was stated before, crackrocks... they stole from clients; they didnt take my hygene advice; they werent classy enough to take out somewhere; they werent educated enough to talk to during a session; some still had obvious drug habits; and they just didnt look to be from the internet stock, which I now can plainly tell is a whole different breed... All of this thwarted any further attempts at helping these piteous creatures and also ruined my rep with a few clients for referring these girls to friends of thiers in efforts to help them get started....

But I guess if your willing to take the higher disease risk, like herpes from the mouth (which are hardly ever visible and can be covered with lipstick) one of the more often transfered even when wearing condoms, among other things you cannot see to well in the dark of your car or the dingy motel room, like crabs and so on-- go ahead, whats 50 bucks for a blowjob compared to your virility and sexual health!?! Test cheap against your wellbeing and see who comes out the winner....

If they were so great in the first place-- there would be no call for people like us to outshine them and show people that there is better out there...

there is a reason why they are on the streets remember that....

Sorry so long!

Dani-Banani

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I've always preferred my meat coming from a web gril rather than a street gril.  I dont know, maybe its the slight tangy rotten flavor of roadkill that comes from a street gril that turns me off.  Web gril meat is much cleaner to eat, just pour a little sauce and go to town!

well, if you're truly a killer, you'll definitely have to stick to the streets, cause we on the internet, screen for our safety.

You'll blow your cover if you kill one of us!

Personally, I like to grill, too, although mostly vegetables, as I'm a sushi freak now and like my fish raw.

xoxo
Elise

....I have to say, (without joking or being rude) I am a little more than concerned at how he managed to mispell it twice, not including the subject line.

Dani-Banani

Not worth the risk in Los Angeles where LE can confiscate your car effortlessly if you had little verbal interaction with a street girl

Many have to do with skills of pleasure; caliber of (hate to state it his way) as the street girls, the actual internet product are no doubt used more because of their ads and they usually have a agency or a drug habit; the cleanliness (and odor no doubt is the same in both markets) of the girls in both major orafices; along with many other things you may be sacraficing like-- money and all around less time They also are quite often really old (which sucks).As for the street girls are way younger and better priced.......But I guess if your willing to take the higher disease risk, like herpes from the mouth (which are hardly ever visible and can be covered with lipstick) one of the more often transfered even when wearing condoms, among other things you cannot see to  dingy hotel room, like crabs and so on-- go ahead, whats 500 bucks for a blowjob compared to your virility and sexual health!?! In general the disease factor is the same in both markets.

Great post.  I take it the double entendres were all intentional.  I am sure in any case that the meat from the web gril is always well done!  Hot sauce always helps too.  If not gril[l]ing, do recommend covering up well before baking in the oven.

To see how sick and dangerous the streetwalker life is, check the article in the NY Times this week on a 12 year old arrested for offering oral sex for $40.  This is not something to desire -- it is awful.  She was, of course, under the control of a pimp.  How terrible.  This is a badly abused child.  And how unfortunate that this child ends up in the criminal justice system rather than getting the help she needs.

This is a night and day difference from the grownup, web based escorts offering charm and intimacy between consenting adults, certainly for much more money.

The street scene should remain illegal, but the women caught up in it need help, not further abuse from society.  It may be hard to reach many of these women, but that is not an excuse for giving up on them.  What is to become of children who are caught up in this?

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Hi D

Do you think the OP is any relation to the dyslexic agnostic who denied the existence of dog?

Take Care
N

During my pre-TER days, I had a meeting about a year and a half ago with a 24 year old web based young lady.  After the festivities were finished and we were talking, she explained that she had started in the business at 14, on the street.  I pretty much felt sick, eventhough she was 24 when I met her.  Fortunately she made me feel better by continuing to describe her life.  She had dumped the "boyfriend" that had her on the street at 14, just as she turned twenty.  She then began to manage her own money and according the her, has done well.  She rents an apartment in NYC and owns her car there.  She has rental properties in another region of the American continent.  Overall, she seemed to have been doing well and appeared healthy and happy during her time with me.  She seemed very honest and the details that she provided probaly could not be made up, so I believe what she told me.
    But the young woman that I met is an exception.  Most girls that start on the street as young as she did end up in bad straits or dead.  This is why any self respecting hobbyist should completely avoid the street scene.  The street scene will come to the web, but by doing research, a hobbyist can avoid it there also.

...and I agree, thats what I was saying about them being young and controlled by apimp, but as I said before I tried to help those I thought worth of my time and attention-- the ones I thought would use it wisely, thinking it would turn them around, but to my dismay my efforts were lost with the wind when they chose to keep thier "street mentality" about things...

Perhaps a regular job? That probably wouldnt be so bad-- maybe someone should look into getting these girls out and showing them they can have regular jobs in the real world.

Dani-Banani

First of all, Im not sure I appreciate you chopping my post like that,it didnt even make much sense. Secondly-- I come from a way different world than Im sure at least 90% of this board come from. I come from a long line of caribbien working girls (its sorta the family business), and have lived in America for 15 years now-- 10 of which spent very much with my Aunt, who decided to be a streetwalker (unbenounced to my family). I have seen this shit closest to firsthand as I could without actually being in it-- my uncle is a real pimp, and has been a pimp for over 30 years. I have talked to his and many of his friends girls and they are miserable piteous creatures, What you are saying is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, the main reason being-- PIMPS DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIER GIRLS-- they work them 12/16/18 hours; pimps dont get as many checkups for them as they ought to (I know some girls who havent ever had one); these girls have quotas they have to make EVERY night, no matter what they have to do to get it $50 dates, $40, $30, $20--full service, because if they dont get at least 500 a night they get beaten down and sent back out;some of them have diseases and know it and some are even proud of it because they got doing what ever they could for thier "daddy"; pimps control all the money, if they dont want to buy mouthwash for these girls, or even gum yes their mouths will smell like condoms, and if they dont have a room then they cant wash themselves afterwards either so yes they smell worse too, internet providers dont smell like condoms when they take the time to wash up; Ive known a girl who had to wear a black skirt everytime she was on her period because if she didnt clear 500 a night while on it (which is hard) her pimp wouldnt buy her sanitary napkins; they also have no advertising output, expect walking around-- so you must imagine when its lsow they have to sometimes see 15-30 people a night to clear at least thier quota, simple math will tell you so, and I dont know any provider from the net who has seen more than 4 people in one day... some girls only see one, far cry from an average of 20. And there is so much more on disease but I think I will find some links on that one for you, so you can see what Im talking about isnt just out of my ass...

Plus you have to imagine the caliber of clienetele they must cater to-- and though they are average woring men-- they are no doubt coming from work and probably smelly and dirty and who know what they themselves have since they do this more often with street girls... you really want someone to come back and then put thier mouths on you after that?

Where the hell are you coming from with this?

And underage girls is a felony... on both parts.

And if a net provider is old-- her reviews will say so, your not forced to be with her you have a pluthera of young girls to chose from.

Sadly enough, with the more open availibilty of the net (ie cafes and free email and image hosting sites), and everyone aspiring to own an escort service, we are finding that the qaulity of the internet girl is being brought down by the street girl posing as an internet girl to work more abroad... but thats not at all what Ii am talking about...

I do give street girls an applause for thier drive and thier ablility and the hustle that they have about themselves-- but never would in thier lifetime of aspiriation-- could they hold a friggin birthday candle to internet provider on class and cleanliness andall around quality...

Most of these girls, by the way are ashamed and scared and unskilled, but cant leave, and your just perpetuating the situation by using them instead-- because a pimp will "fire" his girl if she inst making any money for him...

And if they dont have a pimp they have drug habits or kids which are bascially pimps in the same respect as you would do anything to make sure that you have money for them....

Go to the video store and find the movie American pimp or Pimps up hoes down-- probably the closest you'll ever see to the real thing-- and see if you think the same way...


Sorry so long... but you needed it.
Dani

...dont care much about being robbed by her, and her "wife inlaws" (which are the other girls in her pimps household) or her pimp, and you dont care about LE watching you, or being busted by security in the motel (which happens often), or being busted by the cops your motel (which happens often as well) or any of the other danger elements...

Dani

I don't think there is any easy solution to this.  The key thing is that these are largely severely abused children, and society should not abandon them.

ladies on the net work far less than street gals.  This debate about street & internet is like discussing abortions-pointless.


I know street girlz and net girlz, I never heard of 1 street gal getting checked unless she had a bad odor really messin up her money or her pimp told her she stank to bad, the dope screws up the sense of smell pr even carin' about it.  High end internet ladies do it by choice and more than 2-3 times a year.

Gamble where ya want you may be the walking dead already so you are saving your money.

But who goes to seedy motels?  Hotels 2+ and above for class

Women have in the past tried to get me to " take them to make some money"  I have  seen visibly the prettiest street walkers to the ugliest.

I have seen a street walker parking a new mercedez jeep  on the side street and walk the track. another a lincoln navigator. I know a few that bought there homes this way.

street walkers come in all types from the dirtiest of dirty to the cleanest of clean.

many street walkers believe you get more attention from LE from ad's, some have ad's and reviews yet continue to work the streets to be with their friends who can not or will not pay for ad's.

there a few women who althought they are older get many young men to visit them because of there being very accomadating, they sometimes work the street when and only when or if things or slow, these women have many regulars as they just know what guys want and as I said or very accomadating.


some of these women pay up to or more then $65.00/day  for a hotel room times 30 days  $65X31days=$2015.00, a near beach house  or apartment is $1800/month though small but bigger then a hotel room with no kitchen, atleast you get a kitchen at the beach apartments.



some pretty women are $40.00 but I heard of guys giving women on the street over $1500.00 just for a hj across the toes.


I have seen in person a gasman get caught in a sting as I was at the gas station