I have come to the conclusion that i'am not a safe hobbyist. I was going about my day when I started to think about my ATF. Then the unspeakable occured where I would dare think to push the relationship further and hopefully save her from the world of being a provider. =O

I'am sad to inform the gentlemen of TER that I have failed you and could not be strong till the end.

I don't see a problem with his asking as long as he can accept a NO.

Kill youself.  Please do it now, before this contagion spreads.

Then I realized I would go broke trying to save her.

How did she react to it?

I haven't done anything yet, but i was on the virge of asking her the "serious" question

DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Def not a good idea.  How do you know she needs, or wants, someone to save her from the provider world?  You're making a very big assumption there.

Swim

As long as he is ready to accept "NO" and risk what he has with her. She may not want to be saved, my wife doesn't but some ladies really want out. I gave my former ATF her out. She no longer provides and our relationship is completely platonic friendship now. If he wishes to test the waters for more he should ask. He just needs to be prepared for the big "NO" and that it will change things between them, and as likely as not end thing between them.

I never assumed she wants to be saved, I determined in my own little world that I shall save her.... but then reality set in and of course I told myself "It ain't going to happen"