I received the following PM this afternoon.  Here is the text:

Hi there,

I am writing this because I have tons of questions about your escort review. I first off want to say that I am a newbie at this. Honestly, I do want to get laid and do not want to get ripped off. I live in the vegas area and I have contacted January and I am seriously thinking of spending time with her. She had very good reviews. I was wondering if you had the time to answer a few questions. I would be most appreciative.

1) First of all, are escorts in general a ripoff? Or do some really go the distance. I only ask this because the posts on TER sometimes sound like they are fake.

2) When I call her, what do I say? What do I say to her when she gets here? How do I give her the money? Im not sure how the whole thing works.

3) If I spend 1 hour, is that good enough, or will I only get sex if I spend more?

4) Do you have to tip her? if so, how much?

5) Do you get multiple pops with her?

6) Do you need to provide your own condoms?

7) what do all those abbreviations mean? DFK? i can figure a few out, but some I am clueless.


Well thats all I can think of really.

I greatly appreciate your time and input.

astn


I responded to this with information that would be considered generic to any provider, and basically available at any website that discusses provider/client etiquette.

This TER member has no posted reviews, nor has he posted to any of the discussion boards here.  So who is he, and what is his agenda?  He has sent this exact e-mail to at least 3 of us who have reviewed January, and I suspect that many more have received the same.  The purpose of this post is to alert anyone else who may have received the same PM to be careful about the information that is sent back.  Try to leave anything personal that you might know out of your responses.

BTW, he claims he has contacted January, but she doesn't believe this to be true.

I don't write a lot of reviews but have seen at least as many ladies as you have reviewed during my time in the hobby over the last 20 years.

I do know that with new ladies I go through a bunch of emotions that are similar to a newbie, but not quite.  I also know that when I was a newbie, all of the questions that were going through this guy's head were there for me as well.  Somtimes I think that some of the experienced guys lose perspective of their first time.

Based on what you said he wrote you, he wasn't asking for infomation that LE doesn't already know.  Plus ladies like January have been around long enough to know how to answer stupid questions in a proper fashion or avoid this type of man.  

Living in one of the paranoid capitals of the world, San Diego, I still have the feeling that being aware without being paranoid is the best option.  Use all of the tools available to you and you have a very good chance of being OK.  

In the end, this is all supposed to be about FUN!  Not to say that a very specific warning is not appreciated.

-- Modified on 10/23/2003 8:51:21 PM

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If he's a real newbie, it will be helpful.

If he's LE, he could have found it online himself anyway, and you aren't helping him.

eom

A nice fragmentation grenade would be a suitable gift for this little piggy.  LEscum

I also had all these questions at the beginning---but I have to admit that after I found TER, and the site that Waterclone posted as well, 95% of them were answered.  In fact, it was finding TER almost by accident that probably help me get my feet wet.  If this guy is LE, then they are on a tight budget.  They could just pay for VIP membership and answer many of those questions about a specific provider...we do write down a 'blow-by'blow' account of the session. I guess I can't figure how LE could use the information  in responding to this guy any differently than the info on TER.  This guy just sounds a bit....uhm...challenged.  Probably not LE but someone who is conflicted about his first experience.  Just tell him to be sure to put on his rubbers before getting his feet wet.

Woke up this morning thinking about this situation, and had some other thoughts.

Here is a guy that is asking questions specifically about one gal.  He's contacted at least 4 guys that have reviewed her, says he contated January, but January says that he did not.

I know that this is a terrible thought, but perhaos this jerk is a stalker.

Anyone interested should look at a parallel thread to this on the Las Vegas board.  There is a general consensus that under any circumstance we should be cautious about relating information to anyone but credentialed VIP members, guys with some reviews up, guys that do contribute to the boards.  Anyone can buy in, but not everyone contributes constructively.

I really hate to sound paranoid about this, but I do recall another Vegas gal, Alexis, who was killed a few months back.  One incident like this is much more than enough.

Fortitude, if he is LE and is after January, then it makes sense for him to email several guys who have seen her and ask questions specific to her.  Your replies, in which he hopes you will make it clear what you have done with her, would make great exhibits in court.

Of course you are right.  That's why nothing specific was placed in the reply.

"Based on what you said he wrote you, he wasn't asking for infomation that LE doesn't already know."

There's a difference between knowing something (or thinking you know it), and having evidence of specific act that you can present to a third party.  I think this really may be LE.

LE isn't trying to learn how the system works.  They know how things work.  They know everything we know.  They've read everything we've read.  It would be shockingly absurd for there _not_ to be TER VIP members who are LEOs.  It's even possible that individual LEOs may have visited girls, but then were not able to make arrests due to the girl's stubborn (and wise) adherance to protocols.

What LE wants are statements from people about specific events that happened.  More to the point, they want people to say that there is a connection between a certain two things.  Questions #1, #3, and #4 look suspiciously like an attempt to get that.

If it's not LE, then it must be someone else who is under the mistaken impression that sex and money sometimes share the same context.  I haven't heard of anything like that happening, and I doubt fortitude has either.

That is a scary thought.  I think it's just some dork, but it pays to be cautious.  On a more postive note, I was talking with January today and she really apprceiate all the concern and support she has gotten from the people who have been contact by this guy.

I'm not in the legal field but I would guess that these second-hand statements would have to be used with much stronger first-hand evidence for a judge to even hold this over for trial.  Next, they would have to convince a jury that a crime was committed based on this second-hand evidence.

I was just trying to point out that this guy's train of thought is the same as somebody trying this for the very first time.  Let's face it, if any one of us were targeted by LE they could get us somehow.  Were not really dealing with Andy and Barney down in Mayberry.  I just don't want to spend the rest of my life believing that we are all the direct targets of LE.  Sure it's great to be wary and cautious, just don't let it take the fun out of everything.  If LE wants to spend the resources to get a specific person, they will find a way to accomplish it with or without answers to stupid questions.

That's not to say that I wouldn't answer in the exact same fashion as Fortitude to anybody I didn't know.  I just wouldn't get too worked up about it.

-- Modified on 10/24/2003 5:16:12 PM

I received the same pm.  Didn't sound right so I contacted January.  She has never heard of that person, so I chose not to reply.