Maybe I'm just a simpleton, or this is the difference between how male and female minds interpret things but...
- you are involved in some way in a movie related to being a provider, and plugging that movie. - you appear to have two websites that are both up and still have screening info/instruction (for new clients you don't see) - your P411 ad is still up. - it does seem to appear as if you placed what could be considered an AD a few days ago. - you state that you don't see new clients but openly imply that you still fuck established clients (for money, not just for fun)...but you "left" (the industry) and you don't consider yourself a provider??? If you still have websites and your P411 page up and still fuck (anyone) for money and not just for fun some of us guys that tend to see things in black & white (so to speak) could easily draw the conclusion that by definition you are still a provider and do not appear to have "left" anything.
This is exactly why I left!
It wasn't a pimp or a male but the nastiness that has happened to me and experienced was with female so called "Bookers" who took everything and advantage of me! Unfortunately this is the reality young females face in this industry if you aren't 30+ and truly NOT independent but advertised as independent. I spent some time and contributed on this movie I hope it can help the younger girls that are being taken advantage of by so called " ""Bookers" Unfortunately ter won't allow me to post the link to the movie but it's called "Sex Doll" please google and watch it
Thank you canal + and IFC for allowing this story to be told 🌸
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why can't she just leave and go fully independent? Is screening and scheduling rocket science? Believe me, I do understand it's not simple either, but there are lots of experienced women willing to share their methods if someone wants to learn them. And on TER there is the PO Board, though it's not easy to get admitted.
Long Long Long time ago.. she knew my personal info and blast me all over the internet.. took me attorneys to get that stuff removed, she sent pictures to my ex -husband... she post fake information on the boards. All bc I told her I was done working with her.
Oh well, Karma is a bitch.. i just let that sink....
Are you talking about me?? I never knew you?? Never met you or even heard of you or the situation your talking about??? Are you F#%^*g DELIRIOUS???? Court? Lawyers? I Thretened to call your husband?? This is a first you are f%#%*%g INSANE whoever you are!!! Stop lying
and first time I hear / read about you its on this board, on this post. Please don't contact me in PM accusing me on talking about you. My post is about MY story with a booker that I work LONG LONG time ago. I have no idea who you are, as a matter of fact today is the first time I read something about u.
Move on and leave drama out the door.
Peace out!
I apologize for the misunderstanding it's just that it seemed you were referring to me that's all it came across like you were talking to me!! No drama just a simple misunderstanding!
Are you in flat mode? I'm in tree mode and it was completely clear to me she was replying to me and not talking to any person on this board in particular.
1. Click on your own My Board Posts. Click on one your own posts. Your own post has an extra indent (except for OPs) making it appear as if you are replying a reply.
OP
- reply-1 to OP
- your reply-2 to OP should be here
appears as
OP
- reply-1
- - your reply-2 appears as reply to reply-1 with an extra indent
2. Click on the main page of a board to display threads sorted by Last Post. Click on a Last Post. Sometimes, the last post is misaligned, with an extra indent (same as above) ... but not always.
Are you in flat mode? I'm in tree mode and it was completely clear to me she was replying to me and not talking to any person on this board in particular.
If you have truly left the industry, then why is your P 411 account still active and why are you still checking it daily?
I have seen loads of movies about "the hobby" and almost without exception they were a bunch of self serving drivel. Are you really claiming this movie is going to be any different? It's one thing to convince the clueless public at large, or even the more gullible members of TER that a movie is the real "inside scoop" but many of us here have decades of experience and we are a LOT tougher to fool.
Ok maybe I am calling bullshit, and doing so sight unseen, but even without having seen the movie "something" about this just does not have the ring of truth to it and sounds more like self promotion (or promotion of the movie itself) to me.
Oh no love everything is still active I left in the sense that I don't see anyone new I still see my old friends
Or are you whining about how it is/was in a completely different country?
Since the movie is set in the UK, not the US, I can only assume that you are talking about how the "bookers" over there have exploited you, unless of course you are accusing your American booker of bad behavior. Or is this simply a threAD? for someone who claims to have "left the industry" you have a very active web presence.
Ok hold the fucking presses, just out of curiosity I just checked out your board posts and now I am calling BULLSHIT. You were actively posting for new clients just four days ago. You got some splaining to do Lucy. lol
Oh and that was a joke between two mates😲 But you didn't ask or know about it! I wrote that just like I would write on a mates FB page! Not everything is a big negative conspiracy💋
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I take it you've never heard of Dennis Hof.
Lol! You love to stir the pot don't you?
No I am not talking about Mea! She was actually awesome, She introduced me to the industry. But we parted ways due to my hectic school schedule. Anyone that has seen me knows I've always been low key and never full time always had a civvy job and school obligations, there for always had an assistant/booker
Secondly I do not advertise or do anything actively I haven't renewed anything in 2 years! But I consider myself a voyeur,hobbyist whatever the proper term might be.
I am facinated by the Industry and still naughty, I get a kick out of reading reviews and looking at profiles! Fantasizing about events that could have happened. I did not say I did not partake in the enjoyment of the hobby I said reason why I left! I don't consider myself a provider anymore I see old lovers that managed to keep in touch with me I don't think of them as "clients" I have actually payed to see couple girls, so I don't know what it makes me. I like this side of the world it's my refuge from the bs . So with no intentions I put out my thoughts out there just like you no ulterior motives. This is a discussion board and I posted something that I felt I wanted to share! The movie which I can't link was done by one of my good mates and I felt like I needed to share. If you are seeking anything negative from it or trying to get to whatever conspiracy you made yourself believe I can't help you there! Also I already told you I am not retired I still do see old friends I just don't think of myself as an active member as a provider also like I stated I check my TER and P411 for the same reasons you do. Unfortunately I do not have the luxury of your status where I can spend all my days on these boards, i hardly ever post and when I do is for fun! Or plugging a movie(naughty me) 😉
But back to your original claim No I do not see anyone new or advertise if your claiming I am then you must be confusing me with someone else. I hope I managed to answer your assumptions. It's a lovely day and I hope you enjoy it
Maybe I'm just a simpleton, or this is the difference between how male and female minds interpret things but...
- you are involved in some way in a movie related to being a provider, and plugging that movie.
- you appear to have two websites that are both up and still have screening info/instruction (for new clients you don't see)
- your P411 ad is still up.
- it does seem to appear as if you placed what could be considered an AD a few days ago.
- you state that you don't see new clients but openly imply that you still fuck established clients (for money, not just for fun)
...but you "left" (the industry) and you don't consider yourself a provider???
If you still have websites and your P411 page up and still fuck (anyone) for money and not just for fun some of us guys that tend to see things in black & white (so to speak) could easily draw the conclusion that by definition you are still a provider and do not appear to have "left" anything.
It's not about seeing things black or white or I confusing you!
I said I don't consider myself active, just like I could say the sky is grey today not blue! My two so called active website one I can't get it off because my old booker/assistant has the pass and etc...Secondly I said I left the industry as in I am not an active member. This is a fantasy World that I am part of see old friends here and there but not really advertising to get new clients. Btw you pay for the pussy you fuck for "fun" or decide to marry(their actually more expensive) technically I could say your always paying for pussy one way or another! If you read my response you would have known my response to your question. As to the why am taking the time to post GB well I'm sitting at home with a broken ankle and good old TER never disappoints, you can assume all you want whatever you like. I can't debate opinions if you want to believe something fine just like I have strong ones! Oh I like Isla why would I want to get rid of her she rocks my boring world 🌎 once again once prerogative.
Our/my issue is about you obviously lying about it "for effect" in your OP.
Your OP makes you look like a "victim", and your subsequent posts paint a totally different picture. I HATE it when people play victim, just like the independent hookers who claim they are being "trafficked" when they get busted in an attempt to get a lighter sentence. You fully admit your "booker" in this country at least, was nothing but helpful and loyal to you, you should be ashamed of your subject line in your OP which certainly implies you've been wronged by your booker. You can't have it both ways, not without being called out as a liar at least.
I also stated that Mea simply introduced me to this she was great but also had other Bookers after her. I am not a victim or was I intending to sound like one, I shared an opinion and that's that! And yes I have been taken advantage of where I was blackmailed and threatened to be outed spent a lot of money so I could keep the boring side of my life not to collide with this! I wasn't speaking as a victim but mildly shared an experience that I learned from. Nothing wrong with that
"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"
After watching you twist yourself into a pretzel trying to talk yourself out of your original lie, I can't imagine anyone taking you even the least bit seriously.
What pretzel exactly???
I haven't lied or tried to get out of anything I actually took & still taking the time to answer all your questions! Trust me I have all the time now that I can't move. I welcome all questions but why do you feel like you caught me in a lie?
Btw even if I wanted to see "clients" it would be physically impossible for me to do since I can't move!!
So are you seeing old clients, regulars from your career or not?
I'm not buying what you're selling.
GaG said you should stop,digging. Obviously you have no intention of doing that, so if you are going to keep digging deeper, you're going to need a bigger shovel!
TER and P411 make it so easy to be an indi now, there are less and less agencies. Agencies do a good job for girls that need that service.
Back to flipping burgers for you Isla?
Working a regular job is probably better than dealing with hobby folk.
Don't throw your life away.
... such as why you feel that way and how bookers take advantage of ladies as well as some recommendations. Briefly:
1) Do bookers take too much of a cut? What is reasonable? 10% of revenue? Or 10% of earnings? Or more?
2) How should bookers be compensated? % of revenue or profits? Does that incentivize bad behaviors such as poor screening? What about hourly or weekly or monthly / flat fee? How should incentives align interests?
3) How much flexibility should you provide bookers to communicate on your behalf and to make decisions on your behalf?
I've talked to a fair number of escorts about bookers. Many bookers are former escorts. Some are really good and help the lady build a brand. Others are terrible. And there is everything in between.
Bookers are not necessary. If verification is an issue, you can just rely on P411 ok's and TER whitelist referrals. Or if time is an issue, just don't see a lot of clients. If you have some time to respond to emails and check references, you can manage your own appointments. I can envision you successfully seeing new clients without bookers.
I have seen two women who spoke no English at all. They could not work without someone handling the phones for them.
One was a girl from Brazil and she had a pleasant bilingual booker who was was working for her, not the other way around. I was late for that appointment due to traffic. The booker/phone girl handled the situation wonderfully. "No problem" she said. I would get my full hour as soon as I could get there.
one leaves 5 new one enter..... I'm not sure you will be missed
bye
I found the movie on IMDB and then the links to the trailers and clips. Synopsis: "Set in London's world of high class call girls, Amoureux Solitaires tells the story of London based French escort Virginie, and Rupert, a man who rescues trafficked girls - A tale of modern love."
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I haven't seen the film, but I'm not seeing the relevance. As a love story, it could have been based around any other service industry: "Set in London's competitive and cutthroat world of high class Uber drivers versus hackney cabs ..." There are bad people everywhere looking to exploit other people everywhere.
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I assume you are referring to some particular elements of the London high class call girl industry that you were able to provide information about in order to give the film greater authenticity.
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Bad stuff happens to many people in many situations. But neither does it happen to everyone in every situation.
Thank you canal + and IFC for allowing this story to be told 🌸
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I'm only at the beginning of the movie so no input yet.It looks good so far