So I have been playing around with this idea for quite some time, I'll call it, the "Design Your Own Date/Name Your Own Price", think Priceline/build your own vacation.
While there were several personal reasons that spurred this concept, the basis of them all, stemmed from the unknowns.
For each and everyone of us, our own individual circumstances, at any given moment, determines everything about how we play.
For example:
Mr. Married, lives in Baltimore, works a 9-5, likes to see Sexy Sally. Sexy Sally, "tours" on occasion and has advertised her impending arrival. Mr. Married calls to arrange an overnight. In Sexy Sally's eyes, Mr. Married was never a remote possibility for an overnighter in his home city.
While still in Baltimore, Sexy Sally, gets stopped for speeding, and is subsequently, taken to jail. Forgotten by Sally, but not the City of Baltimore, was a speeding ticket from a year earlier, which was now in warrant status. Sexy Sally is in quite a pickle, her means to get out exceed what she has. She thinks instantly of "Tom" her criminal attorney/client, who is also "hott in the cot" to boot. "Tom", agrees to come to her aid and is pleasantly surprised with her offer of pro-bono time.
What are your thoughts on the concept as a whole? Would there be any interest?
Dear jaycee:
There would be interest if the provider would honor her commitments. That is the big question. How would you put a stipulation on this new quid pro quo and make it binding for the provider? It is not legal so one could not get an agreement notarized so you are dealing with the fact that the provider will honor her commitments and pay off her debts.
To Duplicitouslust,
You asked, "how would you get the provider to honor her commitments to pay off her debts".
The provider hasnt asked for ANYTHING, nor has she received ANYTHING!
My suggestion was simple, and hypothetical as well. I think you are reading too much into it. Here it is again.
A guy gets to design his date, what they do, where they go, how long it lasts, when it starts, what time it ends. He then puts a price on it and it, and submits it to provider. And just like Priceline, his offer can be accepted or approved.
The whole reason behind my suggestion, is the standard status quo stystem of a "date" offers no opportunity for input from the gentleman. I've likened it to a "dictatorship date". The perfect example can be found on any providers website page. She has designed designed a "date package", specified the time limit, and how much she charges. Everyday when gentlemen read that page, her offer is accepted or rejected.
In essence, I'm turning the tables. At the heart of my suggestion, this was two people coming together, with no input from one. For me, if I have agreed to meet with someone, I want to know more. Designing their own date, would definitly give you a pick into "who" they are.
My suggestion was NOT about money. It was about discovery and opportunity. An offer to get to learn more about him and from him on term that he put in place.
I apologize if my original posting was not so clear.
Any two people should negotiate whatever they want. Ain't nobody else's business.
I agree. Like I said in my original post, the idea, stemmed from alot of unknowns.
We keep alot of doors closed, to alot of possibilities, by making blanket statements, simply not asking, or just not knowing.
while bartering is a great idea and I have done it for gifts/contruction work etc
I would not want to be a man/hobbysit and be called to bail a provider out of jail!
But I guess lawyers are in demand?
yet do we have a few dates and I just post a UO me incase I unfort, get in trouble???????????
tough stuff- why most do pay as you go-
What's the difference between the donation and a bail out? As long as it's understood that each are one in the same. And the rest of my post is hypothetical, of course....
When you think about it, he gave you money before the initial date to get you out of trouble, which you needed it in the firstplace.
So basically, he prepaid for play. As long as ladies can appreciate this and honor it, I wouldn't have a problem.
I got burned. That's all it took. Goddam shame that that experience ruined it for any other provider that might be in need of help from me and would genuinely make it right.
First time fuck you, second time fuck me.
Know what I'm sayin'?
Some of you ladies 'trade' services for your websites, and other aids to grow your business'.
The barter system can be a good thing. As long as it's understood and honored.
But when one party benefits more than the other, or other party doesn't benefit at all, there's a problem.
This is a tricky, pardon the pun, situation. We're talking about people that are out for their own interests for the most part. Providers and hobbyists alike.
I like to think that what comes around goes around. Meaning, if I do good by someone, it'll come back to me some way. Karma.
Not everyone thinks that way, though.
JMHO, but I suggest doing right by who did you right. Hypothetically speaking of course...
MP67
I'm not thinking of pro-bono (pro-boner?!) I like the concept of designing my own date.
Mutual shower - love that
An afteroon with chocolate /strawberry sundae(s)
Mutual satisfaction
Like...an entire afternoon.
You could plan ahead for the date and block out the time - you're assured of a nice booking
I'm assured of the date I want.
Sign me up
I'm not sure how else I could have said what I was trying to say.
I feel like I've been flamed and burned. But not before I was roasted twice over.
My suggestion was simple. Guy plans date, name his own price, submits it for approval. Request is received, reviewed, and then approved or denied.
The idea isnt new, or unique and unheard of. Blame Priceline guys, they started it!
Simply put, I was flipping the tables on you.
Letting you see/feel what its like to wear the shoe on the other foot, walk that mile, in someone else shoes. Tit for tat. What's good for goose is also good for gander. Good enough for me, good enough for you.
My suggestion had NOTHING to do with MONEY. (other than what you named as your price).
The word LOAN, was never written, mentioned, suggested, or implied.
It also was NOT about BARTERING. However, I can freely admit, that as the designer, inventor, and creator, all rolled into one, you had the power to include, such an element in your offer.
It also had nothing to do with RECEIVING. Okay, that part was a total lie. I WAS hoping, of being kissed, while on the receiving end. I further admit, to wanting to be on the receiving end of other things, but I'm already too deep as it is.
Geez Lousie! Is this business so jaded, that negativity, manipulation, and overall acts of deceit, all that could be seen?
Brings meaning to the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished". I never quite got what that meant. Thank you, I have now been informed NO, I take that back! I rather wish I didnt know that.
As I have already stated, but apparently it bears repeating, the story was a fictional work, of concocted events, that never took place.
The male character, never asked, suggested, or implied, any kind of barter transaction, in order for his services to be rendered. Never! Beforehand, after the fact, or anywhere in between. No attempts, to acts of blackmail, were ever conveyed, in anyway. Not even subliminally.
In addition to, the female character never asked
for, requested, or attempted to suggest, she would be willing to enter into, any type of barter agreement, in order to receive, professional services.
My suggestion I admit, along with its story, has been very ill received. But thats not before, it was taken apart, and then totally twisted, with a degree of sickness, I couldnt have possibly imagined.
I disagree with your concept of the "dictatorship date". It is not like providers are operating a cartel. There are ladies at every price point. A client is free to choose who he wants to see within the price range he can afford. It's an unfortunate fact of life that sometimes we can't have everything we want but I do not consider Porsche to be running a dictatorship because they make cars I would like to own but cannot afford.
Your concept is thought-provoking and reminds me of a conversation I was having with an interesting gentleman earlier this evening. However, I think that inviting clients to choose their own price is bound to have the effect of driving prices down. It really depends upon what you want to achieve. Personally, I am interested in providing a quality, low-volume service and enjoying a good standard of living. I do not want to see five gentlemen per day. With this in mind, I have set my rates at a price point which provides me with a flow of enquiries which is enough, but not too much. Effectively, it is a negotiation between what I want and what clients are willing to pay because if I set my rates too high, I will be out of business.
I do not like the idea of trading services for services in an industry in which value is highly subjective. I suspect it is a recipe for drama which could put me in a position where I am an adversary to my clients, which is the last thing I want. I would prefer to set my rates and live within my means so that if I do need to pay for the services of a lawyer, or anyone else, I am able to do so with cash.
Jaycee,
I am sorry that your attempt to open a dialog has met with such opposition. Frankly, if one asks for a time offering not on the menu, then this exact thing occurs.
I wonder if a hobbist suggested a scenerio with no price tag & the lady replied with a donation request, if that would have been differently recieved?
I suspect your second scenerio, exchange of services distracted interest from the first. I feel that such services whould be converted to cash... so that the correct payment planb can be realized. Suzy, knock off speeding & pay your tickets like everyone else!
skb
I love the concept! However, I think you may get a ton of inappropriate requests and would have to do alot of weeding through emails and hanging up on guys who ask stupid questions. Some of that already happens, of course, but I think it would increase tenfold.
special attraction to; i.e. the chemistry was there. I would suggest the structure of the date (usually appetizer, dinner, shopping, and dessert with a timeframe) and ask if she would be willing for so many presidents. I viewed this as making my own package-priced date.
My biggest challenge is finding time to get away to play.
as it ALWAYS Is with me. I was 'dating' an escort? Some paying customer stood her up for an event she truly wished to attend (a play). She called me just after she realized he was a NC/NS. I listened and suggested to her that she come to my city (which she frequently did) and I would offer to escort her to the show in my city, AND I would purchase her time for an after show event. I got WAY more time with her that I would have received otherwise, she got to see the show in box seats and we had a great time.
yea... a little not like exactly what you are saying, but I think that most ladies are fairly open minded IF you offer true value. If it is just a cheap attempt to devalue her time, then the answer is gonna be a flat out no.
I get what you are trying to say, and it does generate some interesting thoughts. One must be mindful that this hobby is fraught with difficulties not found in other arenas. Simply put, this business does not lend itself to the Priceline model. As a DEVOTED Priceline user, let me offer an analysis.
Priceline: I want a 4 star room in DC & bid $100/night and get it. Next time I want the same thing and I must bid $150. A little bidding (upselling?) and I get what I want.
Pro: Saved $$ over the listed rate of $325.00.
Con: Price volatility, Bidding Process.
Overall: Good. Not a problem in this sterile exchange.
Companion: I want a session with a well-reviewed lady. I have to list my expectations & I bid $400 for 2 hours and get it. Next time I list the same expectations and I must bid $600. Again, a little bidding (upselling?) and I get what I want.
Pro: None. Absent listed rates I don't know if I'm being treated fairly or not. If the rates are listed, and I continually get my session below those rates, at best those rates become meaningless at worst they appear inflated.
Con: Volatility in price and services. Speaking for myself, I do not like to be too specific in describing activities. That's just not smart. Particularly, if you have to do it each and every time you schedule so she can judge your bid. I also don't like negotiating. I find it distasteful in the hobby.
Overall: Not good. I can deal with YMMV, but I will not deal with Your Price May Vary.
Just my humble opinion.