everybody in every walk of life exaggerates their accomplishments. i don't see providers being any more or less delusional about their lives and achievements than bankers, beauticians and bicycle repairmen.
i am seeing a lady who wants to be an actress, and indeed, has studied and worked professionally as an actress in another country. how do i know this is true and not a "story" or a "dream"? she showed me a youtube of a commercial she filmed (with a very major and well known movie star). she is a young woman pursuing a number of money making interests, like any number of other people both in and out of the hobby. i know the propensity to distrust what a provider says, because after all, their entire job is to create and illusion for a set period of time. i have a joke: how do you know when a provider is lying? when her mouth is moving and your c*ck isn't in it. but sometimes they actually tell the truth. i will give you that you are right in the end: it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.I've heard all sorts of interesting stories from providers. One had a billionaire take her out on a date, and he said on the spur of the moment, "let's fly to Dubai on my jet", and off they went. Had a wonderful time.
Another told me about the hair salon she had, and all of her employees, and some of the problems.
Another said she was going to medical school to be a pediatrician, and hoped to open her own clinic. When I saw her again, she was talking about opening a fitness center.
Another was a hand model and an ass model in LA.
I don't put much stock in the stories, but I do enjoy hearing them. They're interesting, even if they're not true. Some may be true. Some may be partially true. It doesn't matter. They're great story tellers.
I was thinking about the stories the other night, and came to the conclusion that many of them represent what the women would really like to do. They're talking about their dreams, dreams that will never come true and they know it. I think the stories are their escapes.
I don't think I encounter this to anywhere near this extent in the "real" world, as identities are known, and untruths fall apart pretty fast.
Agree? Disagree? Want me to fuck off? 
are going on the Mars mission in 2030.
That will really make the hookers who vacation in Gstaad look lame.
Have you considered that any "real life stories" you get that are lies, are simply because a lady might not want you to know too much about what her real life is about? Just as many ladies create cover stories for family and friends, some ladies create cover stories for clients. And... many actually do share their real stories.
You doubt the Dubai story? That could be a bit of fun fantasy, or it could really have happened. It's unlikely a lady would flesh out so many details of a lie that she would subject you to hearing about the problems and employees of a fake hair salon, but it could happen I suppose. Maybe the lady who was going to go to medical school was actually an undergrad who simply couldn't figure out what she wanted to do. Maybe that hand and ass model was really a screenwriter or a banking loan officer. Or maybe she was a hand and ass model. Who knows?
Does it matter? Your post wouldn't be at all offensive - except for your determining that these ladies "dreams... will never come true and they know it."
Huh.
There are some remarkable women in this business.
I don't doubt the ability of any lady to reach her goals and dreams
but some of us/them also tell the truth. Unless I am involved with a person, and by involved I do NOT mean simply "renting her body" I don't get particularly invested in whether or not her "stories" have any basis in fact.
Just like tricks, some of them are telling the gospel, others are simply delusional and others are somewhere in between.
I wonder if it's true that all tricks are successful businessmen who were captain of the football team and married to a playboy centerfold? Of course it true, right? What guy would lie just to impress a woman that he is paying for sex?
They have a business interest while the guys have a pleasure interest. A guy trying to tell a "service" that he is all that, is pathetic.
I am not justifying it but I really don't care what a girls tells me in person/by text, as long as it is reasonably sane. Lol
It is the gals best interest to show their product in the best possible light without completely misrepresenting themselves. So when someone says they are going to Mumbai or Rio or Paris, whatever, good for them. Whether its factually accurate is irrelevant.
It doesn't effect my desire when I am balls deep and if they feel the need to live a charade, and that makes them a better provider, if only in their mind, so be it.
You forgot billionaire playboy by day and caped vigilante by night.
Just like tricks, some of them are telling the gospel, others are simply delusional and others are somewhere in between.
I wonder if it's true that all tricks are successful businessmen who were captain of the football team and married to a playboy centerfold? Of course it true, right? What guy would lie just to impress a woman that he is paying for sex?
that some may be true, some not, but it doesn't matter. The stories are interesting whether they're true or not.
There was a guy I knew in high school named Gino. I always thought he was really cool. On the first day of classes in Junior year, we were at our lockers. I asked him what he did over the summer, and he said he and his dad had gone to Europe and traveled all over. He told his story, and I kept telling him how cool it was.
Then he said it wasn't true, he'd just made it all up. I asked him why he did that, and he said, "it had the same effect on you, didn't it?" I thought about it a minute, and realized he was right. It didn't make any difference to me whether he'd gone to Europe or not. It was a story.
And that's how I look at what providers tell me.
I'm not putting anyone down and, if it came across that way, I didn't write well enough. That, or you really don't have a masters degree in English.
As for the part about trying to conceal identities, I understand that completely. As for my comment about the stories being dreams, I think some of the untrue stories may be just that, and others may not. Lots of people voice their fantasies. If anything, the fantasies make for more interesting talks.
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But do you remember a certain news anchor’s story; initials BW? Therefore, on questioning the value of being truthful or not, it kind of makes me wonder about how a people perceive themselves when it goes beyond fantasy? (Whose trying to impress whom?) Seems shallow, even if there is gain in obtaining prestige and a better paycheck, the past eventually catches up if based on a lie. When all is said and done, I appreciate a provider who is down-to-earth.
but rather the simple everyday stories of love and kindness that impress me.
I just heard one today that has me all full of the spirit of this season now.
It reminds me of an old proverb:
It's nice to be important, but more important to be nice
"It is good to meet girl in park, but better to park meat in girl"
I just heard one today that has me all full of the spirit of this season now.
It reminds me of an old proverb:
It's nice to be important, but more important to be nice.
Here, it seems to be more important to most people to see how big a jerk they can be. Jerkiness trumps niceness.
No pun intended.
use Jerk and Trump in the same sentence you should take it to the P&R board 
I think the difference is that in the TER world, donations are already set. In the SB world, there is often an elaborate effort to establish that the SB is really worth a lot. I have heard some totally ridiculous stories. One person in particular said that one of her dates bought her a $10,000 watch on their first date. Later, after she ended the SB relationship (same guy), he offered her $50,000 just to start up again. Trust me, this did not happen. I actually could not wait till the dinner was over, so I could say "no thanks."
I have not had many providers tell me stories that on the face of it were ridiculous. Maybe they AREN'T really in college, or interested in starting their own business, or have other jobs IRL, but the stories I have heard from providers are plausible and not craven
As you can see by my profile, I haven't seen many providers.
There are just 2300 billionaires in the US, or just .0007% of the population. Of the few providers I've seen, two have said they had billionaire boyfriends. What are the odds?
I pretty much doubt the story of the provider who said she went to Dubai. I saw her many months later, and mentioned something about Dubai. She just said "huh?" as if I was talking about something on Mars.
Maybe the story was true. She told it well.
Edited to add: A TER member PM'ed me to say that a young provider we've both seen said she had been to Dubai. No mention of a billionaire, though. That's two twenty-something providers who've had billionaire boyfriends, and two twenty-something providers who've been to Dubai. Small world.
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You were on a perfectly fine course until you ran aground with your speculation that the stories you hear are providers’ dreams that will never come true—and they know it. And, the stories are their escapes. ?
Well, that's patronizing.
I suppose it matters what you think they’re trying to escape from. And, perhaps this is just a poor phrasing on your part. But the better bet is on providers making an effort to ‘escape’ from their clients knowing too much personal info; their attempt to distance themselves not from their own lives, but from their clients. It has to be challenging to put on a fantasy show over and over, under a fantasy persona. I hear some of you guys are not the least bit interested in reality when you see a provider
There are exceptions to everything, and I certainly won’t discount there are providers out there making-up stories to ‘escape’ their lives. But, compartmentilazition is not the same thing as making up stories to escape your (presumably dreary?) life.
I think you’re reading something into this that's not there
and I think if you read my post carefully, you'll...
Aw, fuck it.
But you *do appear to be* making a sideways assumption. Or, at the very minimum, making an assumption about the stories you hear from providers that's based on another underlying assumption (a common trope?) that providers live a life from which they feel they need to escape. Ergo, they make up stories about what they would rather be doing....(e.g...they tell 'stories' that are dreams they know will never come true)
Perhaps if you read your own post you might see this.
or, just fuck it...lol....
Even when I've had jobs I loved, I still dreamed of other jobs. It's simple human nature.
I think that many of the stories MAY be speaking out loud in story form the fantasies the women have about things they wish would happen. Almost all providers are performing, and the stories are part of the performance. I think the billionaires and the spur-of-the-moment private jets to Dubai or such things are very possibly or even likely parts of fantasies woven into stories along with parts of the real lives. Maybe the things happened, maybe they didn't.
I just don't see the stories forming from thin air. The stories are told too well, with details that come either from actual experience, or from having thought about them for a long time.
I find the stories fascinating because I can't do that. I can't talk to friends or family or co-workers about flying here or knowing Johnny Depp or any such things. The bubble would be burst in seconds, and that's the case for most people.
I do not think providers are living lives from which they want to escape, and never have thought that.
Or, just fuck it.
I get what you’re saying: none of us can get away with telling tall tales in real life without, inevitably, getting caught in a lie in short order. Totally true. Providers do have a unique platform on which they can try out ideas---real, or imagined; maybe to see how these ideas feel and fit.
You say you find the stories fascinating because you can’t do that? But you can. Maybe you can't do this the same way providers do. But visualizing something ‘else’ through dreams and fantasies is the starting point for all change.
That concept may be crossing over some invisible line into ‘wtf’ on TER. But, hey, if you can’t convince yourself, you’re not going to convince anyone else. So dream on….
[queue Aerosmith...?
Why would I drop insults? One, I don't have the credibility on this forum to be insulting. Two, there's no percentage in it.
and there's no percentage in it for anyone else either. And, yet...
You were thinking of me when you typed your headline.
I run into this all the time in the "real" world.... It's like "really ? exactly what color are the skies in your world ?"
I prefer the 'Oh, you don't want to hear about dumb, boring old me' type of approach. I'm reluctant to divulge detailed information about my personal life (not that my personal life is so very exciting, but I like to keep certain things to myself).
Some girls think it will be a turn-off for a client if he knows she 'only' does 'this'. Plus, the guy will think she has no life. In that vein, the only times I've pretended to be important, were when I wanted to create the vague impression that I was busy...aka, not free all day/night to text, chat, and hang out. Which is actually completely true, I do stay extremely busy, and I do value the time I devote both to work, and to other activities about which I am very passionate. However, most clients don't really respect that, so it's easier to tell them that I have a 9-5, a final/midterm/project for some extremely advanced and difficult class, or some exigent outside pressures/deadlines to contend with.
The classwork excuse is my most frequently used, and it's true to some extent. I usually do have some class work to do. It's not always essential or life-changing (although, it's extremely important to me). But if I don't tell a client it's something that will have imminent import upon my future career prospects or academic future, he will basically never let me go. In fact, sometimes, sometimes he still won't >:-O
That's when I have to whip the phone out, and show photos of my fake dog. Even that doesn't work, sometimes.
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Years ago I knew a lady fairly well who had some pretty amazing stories. One day I was in the check-out line and she was on the cover of a magazine with the real name I knew her as. ALL of her stories were/are true.
Why must everything be a lie?
I don't think everyone is fabricating their stories.
More than a decade later I ran into her in Philly where she now is an orthopedic surgeon. (Still very attractive, doubt she is providing now.)
everybody in every walk of life exaggerates their accomplishments. i don't see providers being any more or less delusional about their lives and achievements than bankers, beauticians and bicycle repairmen.
i am seeing a lady who wants to be an actress, and indeed, has studied and worked professionally as an actress in another country.
how do i know this is true and not a "story" or a "dream"? she showed me a youtube of a commercial she filmed (with a very major and well known movie star). she is a young woman pursuing a number of money making interests, like any number of other people both in and out of the hobby.
i know the propensity to distrust what a provider says, because after all, their entire job is to create and illusion for a set period of time. i have a joke: how do you know when a provider is lying? when her mouth is moving and your c*ck isn't in it.
but sometimes they actually tell the truth. i will give you that you are right in the end: it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
It is our choice to whether to take it at face value or a tall tale.