We're all worried about exposure, and visiting providers who are seeing multiple clients a day over an extended period of time. That being said, don't you think they've already been exposed to COVID19 by this time and have already had it? In general younger and low risk group. So, they would be immune by this time and actually very low risk.
Thoughts?
Possibly.
Some have showed me the vitamins and supplements they are taking. Lots of vitamin c. Some continue to do dfk and do bbbj. Even some continue to do bbfs. Amazing they are still here.
Very few have ads demanding masks.
Most people will not ending die from covid-19. People who have strong immune systems won't even notice they came under a covid-19 attack. Their innate immune kicks in and kills the virus. When the adaptive immune system kicks that is when symptoms show up.
Wearing a common mask, while grappling and breathing heavily with someone, is uselessly silly. It does not even rise to the level of "fig leaf", it's so transparent. If a sex provider demands a mask, I know she isn't serious. Thoughtful sex providers know the same about masked clients, but may be excused for taking their money anyway.
1) Having had Covid once does NOT mean you can't get it again. A number of people have. So if you can get it again, that means you can spread it. And no one knows how long the immunity lasts.
2) The fact that young people are a lower risk group for getting extremely sick from Covid if they get it does NOT mean they can't spread it. In fact some have become "super spreaders," infecting and killing their older relatives.
The number who have seemed to get it again is statistically insignificant. (i.e. nearly 70 million cases worldwide and just a handful have supposedly got it again.) For those who've supposedly got it again, there is the likelihood of false positives ... the rate of false positives is far larger than this tiny subset.
They amplify the virus to much. Many people with common cold and flu are being diagnosed with covid-19 when in fact they don't have it.
And, the type of errors (false positive and false negative) they do vary vigorously from test type to tests type!
Also do you have any evidence for “ Many people with common cold and flu are being diagnosed with covid-19 when in fact they don't have it.” that you care to share?
that we get every year are supposed to last 6 months on average. That's why I get mine around Thanksgiving so that it lasts until the end of the flu season in May. People that get them in September may see them lose their efficacy before the flu season is over, and they will still get the flu. I'm guessing that the Covid vaccine will behave similarly. I think its going to be a vaccine we get once or twice a year.
Your info about the regular flu shot is correct, which is why I waited until November to get mine, too.
However, you are wrong in guessing the Covid vaccine will behave similarly. While there is no conclusive data on this, early results suggest the Pfizer vaccine retains its potency for at least several years.
But at least you described your theory as a guess. Keep up the good work!
I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from "early results."
While the results are, indeed, early, they support the conclusion that this particular virus does not mutate in fundamental ways that would make the vaccine ineffective.
As Yogi famously said, "You could look it up."
that , SO FAR, it hasn't mutated in fundamental ways that would make the vaccine ineffective. Isn't it a little early to start making "conclusions." Judging from some of your other posts about Covid, I think you are in agreement about the "early" stage we are at in understanding this virus for the long term.
Who the hell really knows on mutation. However, since COVID is Man Made, and I believe that is fact, perhaps it is designed not to mutate.
But again, who the hell knows for sure?
Both your claims are highly speculative and not fact based. I also think that given you hold those views you know nothing whatsoever about biochemical processes that would be involved in "designed not to mutate" -- as that is not possible.
The numbers relating to this entire epidemic are so new it's totally premature to state any number is "statistically insignificant." We simply don't know yet. So stop pretend that YOU do, Fester. Now tell us exactly what number you've read that lets you conclude it's "just a handful?" Or did you pull that out of your ass?
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
AJMC October 12, 2020 -- A young man in Nevada is the first reported case of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) reinfection in the United States and the fifth case of reinfection worldwide, according to a new case study published Monday. The second reinfection was more serious than the first, but he has since recovered.
That's 5 cases out of 70 million worldwide.
There have been hundreds of re-infections. So far.
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
There are lots of articles on the increasing number of re-infections. But keep your head up your ass, Fester. You're a dim bulb.
Even putting the number or reinfections at 500 worldwide (not clear exactly how confident either the Brazilians or the Mexicans were with their numbers but taking them at face that was about 350 but no one else seems to be seeing large numbers that I could find) that means 0.000723% reinfections.
I suspect that is not something many are getting too worked up about. Particularly given so few seem to have resulted in a serious case and I think only 1 death.
Fester the pinhead is the numerical illiterate.
He might become number two. Its something to worry about if your nature is to be a worrier.
1. There are two equally important concepts: statistical significance and practical significance. Do you know them?
2. Especially in medicine, statistical significance can take the back seat to practical significance! For example, for things like infection rate of a new and not understood disease, practical significance can be more important and critical to observe. So, Nicky’s point is more robust in the debate here and more likely holds water over yours.
I don’t want to get too involved here with all the resident “statistics experts.” But just couldn’t resist myself when I saw terms like statistical insignificance are being thrown around significantly.
Black-Panther, by your logic I might be wise to select a young high volume provider that is especially stupid or careless?
I saw somebody recently. I asked if she was afraid of covid and she said no - because she checked my temperature. I held back my response to her naivety.
I want to dismiss signs of risk as outliers, statistically insignificant, etc. I just became aware of the death of Nick Cordero. I don't know the details, but, I seem much more likely to fit the profile of a covid death.
Just for today, the big head is making the decisions. I'm expecting a post-Thanksgiving spike in death in maybe 2-3 weeks. Probably too late to cancel Christmas plans. We'll see.
I'm trying to minimize my exposure and the vaccines are looking good. I've changed my mind quite a lot in the past few weeks.
I'm on the fence. But with a vaccine on the horizon it is a compelling reason NOT to hobby. I was just thinking if a provider already had it would you advertise as such.
...it's pretty much what they're saying about people working in hospitals and such if they've already had it.
I've had some friends who worked in the medical field during the pandemic on the floors who were out of work for months, and even in the hospital, with Covid. They're back working and put on the Covid units because of it - to keep up continual small doses of exposure, and also because they would be known to have immunity. None have gotten sick since that I know personally.
Since there is no antibiotic, I wonder if that helps?
There isn't as much research and knowledge around Covid-19 yet, but that's what is suspected.
In the beginning of it all, people were saying we should have stayed out and ran life as normal to reach herd immunity - but there would have been a LOT of deaths.
However, maybe the deaths would be the same over time anyway?
In Vegas, the death toll percentage was way less with residents, but percentage of cases based on population were more - probably because they were so exposed to people world-wide all the time, their immune systems were super strong due to exposure in general.
I've worked in hospitals & volunteered in nursing homes for so long, and before that working retail, touching money... before that, public schools. I'm sure I was exposed to so many things and vaccinated for everything under the sun - then I came into this and was even more exposed to whatever people picked up actually kissing ppl and touching money and stuff.
But these past couple of years I have barely been around anybody at all, even in this round of work, so I'm being super careful.
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are wearing all kinds of PPE which they continually change. They also continually wash and disinfect, etc.
So there's that.
Oh, and lots of them have become infected. Some have died.
So don't count on it.
Did you read the part where I said they had already been infected and recovered; therefore, those were some of the ones they had go onto the Covid floors and where then continually exposed?
Or did you just read the part where I said they were on the floors and exposed regularly, without noticing I said they had already fought and recovered Covid-19 before going onto the Covid floors to work?
are wearing all kinds of PPE which they continually change. They also continually wash and disinfect, etc.
So there's that.
Oh, and lots of them have become infected. Some have died.
So don't count on it.
they are riddled with assumptions, guesses, contradictions and mis-information. For example, you refer to an "antibiotic," which would do nothing against Covid. Because Covid is a VIRUS and antibiotics only work on bacteria.
And I did read the part about their being infected and then recovered. But I also made the point that this is not a guarantee against re-infection and no one knows how long immunity after the initial infection lasts. The article I used to rebut Fester's latest idiocy says there are hundreds of re-infections world wide and the number is sure to climb.
Bottom line: Covid is still very new and we are in the process of learning more about it every day.
The good news is vaccines are coming and if we can get through the next few months everything will be fine.
Your article was in National Geographic. Hint hint, it is not a medical magazine. It's like citing a Car & Driver article on COVID.
So who cares which publication reports it? That has nothing to do with whether the info is accurate, you dunce. Also, it was in the Science section.
Gawd you're stupid.
If you have the national average of 2.7 co-morbidities required to die from the Kung-Flu, keep your ass at home, wear your mask, etc. I’ll keep my healthy ass seeing the young ladies! And the OP has a very good point!