"... If and when we did meet."

She probably thought you were a tire kicking time waster.

Some ladies will not talk scheduling with travelers until you are actually IN their city. You'd be amazed at how often travel plans change or flights are delayed leaving a lady with wasted time. Heck, I'd say that it happens toe once a month...

Don't take it personally. Keep looking... Lots of ladies like to schedule in advance, even with travelers.

Actually with better known providers (busy ones) trying to call so far ahead to try to "establish a rapport" is a pain in the ass. I'd bet if you had just tried to schedule an appointment she's have reacted differently. they get guys calling and e-mailing all the time trying to get to know them before taking the plunge and usually it falls through, so most think it's a not productive use of time.

Read her reviews and base it on that, not how well she presents herself on the phone. Many also use a booker who doesn't really want to get to know you and spend more than the necessary time on the phone to book an appointment.

You're paying for her time that she spends with you not her time on the phone, some guys call trying to get off on their voice which is one of the reasons some girls only book through e-mail.
To see my Vegas favs I call a couple of weeks ahead to make sure they'll be in town, but don't book till just before the trip. If I hadn't seen them before I'd do it through e-mail as this way she respond when she has time and I'm not interrupting her day.

If there's a provider I really want to see in a city I'm visiting I might set something up a few weeks in advance. But I almost always do it by email.  

I've never called to try to establish rapport prior to setting up an appointment. Some ladies may be okay with that, but I would feel like I'm not being respectful of her time.  But that's just me. I tend to establish a rapport pretty quickly once we meet.

Providers get a lot of calls from guys who have no intention of setting up an appointment and just want to spend time chatting on the phone with the lady. I wouldn't want them to think I was doing the same.

...and I don't understand why you're being critisized, except for that you trashed the girl for not being 'friendly enough' to you by saying "call me when you're ready".

That is simply an indicator of the type of date she likes. Suggestion for you if you want to see this girl: call her when you are ready (usually means an hour notice BTW)

Some girls like advance booking, some don't...some like Vodka, some like Patron. What's a guy to do? ASK THE GIRL!!

ASK: Do you like advance bookings?
ASK: Should I call you when I get settled in my Hotel?
ASK: Should I not call you ever again? (hey-it happens!)

And believe me, economy-is-the-pits or not, in Vegas anyway, (IMHO) the GIRLS are still the commodity, it's busy here, it is NOT a buyers market and if you expect to get treated 'spayshul' it ain't gonna happen.

Do your homework, check the reviews, check the websites, THEN make the call. Forearmed is forewarned as they say...or is it 'knowledge is power'? oh right, it was "show me the MONEY!!"

And yes, she really IS doing you a favor by picking up the phone and listening to you ask for a date!! How about if she didn't pick up at all? Would you still be upset?

And, also yes, there really is a posssibility that all the hobbyists in Vegas ARE standing in line to meet her...so maybe (if you want it) you should give her a call when you're ready????

peace
JP

I want make checking me out easy for a lady.

There is just too much info for a phone.

I don't want to be reading off  all that stuff, dates times, email addresses, websites, phone numbers, when to call, etc, to a hot young lady.  She probably has better things to do than write that down.

I want to make checking me out easy for a lady, so I put it all in an email. That way there are no little communications errors. And I can take a minute to describe myself.

I think I look more considerate that way.

But that's just me.

Whether local or traveling should be the same.  I prefer to make initial contact by e-mail or web form.  Which I can write & she can answer at her/my convenience.  I like to express my sincere interest & give a time frame for the meeting (so she'll know I'm not a time waster if I do not book immediately).  
I'd not try to set an exact date until a few days before the propsed (in my mind) Date.  Subject to confirmation once you're on the ground.    
skb

PS  She may have thought you were trying to bypass a web form screening by phoning.  What does her review & web site say?

I just set up a mid June date last night.  She is a lady that I have seen before, and I did not want to miss her.

mpowers,

I had a similar experience when I visited Vegas last November. I had be planning ahead as you are. Here is some comments from Jazz and I have to admit, he opened my eyes and showed me a different perspective.
"Now before you get too judgmental on gals who schedule two weeks out - look at it from their perspective.  For many, the bread-and-butter of their business is visits from her regulars, some weekly, others less frequently.  If her first booked appointment for the week is with an unknown, out-of-town newbie, will often conflict with the last minute wishes of a "sure thing".  Some gals will make the appointment with a newbie, only to cancel when something better comes up.  Others will be more cautious, and wait to see where the newbie will fit into her schedule.  

I know it is frustrating, but it is true."

jazz32

Hope this helps. If the provider is one you would truly like to meet start some conversation with her thru email and ask your questions. I have found some great ladies and become, at least, chat friends.

Hoss

I always email instead of calling.   This way the woman can respond to me, and schedule when she has time.

We all know how sometimes you are much too busy to take a phone call (for whatever reason), and for setting up a session that far in advance a phone call is not appropiate.

Of course a phone call is appropiate before the actual session, but after the initial contact happens.

I understand there are many many providers you can call. If a hobbyist calls me....I take him seriously. I will answer the questions that are appropriate to ask over the phone...and ask him to send me an email....

This is not about who is busy, who has great reviews, or any of that..IF YOU ARE THAT BUSY HIRE YOURSELF A BOOKING AGENT....I book for a few providers and I also have the sense to know I have to SMILE THROUGH A CALL....I know when to either hang up or change the path of the conversation....my voice, my tone, and verbage are the first PERSONALIZED things a client will experience about me.......obviously girlfriend had a hot face and body and had no problems telling you that....but her attitude burnt her bridge with you....not good....we own our business and the beauty of being a professional provider is mastering the art of SALES.

If you can't be nice over the phone....or you sound like you want to hurry off the phone what is a guy to think about seeing you face to face.

Allure`

Is a great way to start.  Some of the gals travel extensively, so this is a first step.

As a general rule, I find that gals with websites are more open to advance booking, than gals who only have a CV or Eros ad, however there are always exceptions.

When I had my first Hobby experience it was in Vegas. I took the email approach WEEKS in advance to schedule some time with a couple of very well reviewed providers. My initial email provided the dates I'd be there and some information about me. I asked if they pre-screened, and did they accept advance bookings. Since this was my first experience I also had the initial handicap of not having any references. So I asked what information I could provide to pass the initial screening, and gave them what they wanted. To make a long story short, we exchanged a few emails which let us get to know each other and for all parties to be comfortable. Everything turned out fine in the end. Had 2 great sessions, the first being a double!

That was my experience and YMMV of course, but I think the email approach with some concrete information gets the point across that you are not just a time waster, but have a sincere goal of scheduling some time with a provider.

C_K

is when I'm travelling, and I'm a planner. I tend to plan my playtime way in advance. I half jokingly asked a lady six months in advance one time. Apparently, she didn't think I was too much of a screwball, and agreed to see me. I've seen her again since, and have plans to see her when I visit again in the fall. I have another trip planned to Atlanta in June, and have already made plans to see a lady there, who has been on my wish list for a long time.

Maybe I go to extremes, but I think planning ahead is a good thing.

I prefer email, especially with someone new. I'm not going to talk about anything too personal on the phone, and I also work from home, so just because the phone might ring (which it's not supposed to), I may be busy.

Personally, I hate phones and chit chatting away even with friends for hours. However, I don't mind talking for a few minutes to get to know the person once they've scheduled with me, but I really don't have time to chit chat all day with someone. I think it was nice that she took the time to say "You are cute, blah, blah, blah."

What one person deems rude, another feels is okay. You get the picture.

Hugs,
Ciara

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It's the short-notice folks who bug me. I think it's ultimately an issue of planning compatibility -- a lady or gentleman may be great for each other in every way ... except for whether or not they can/like to plan ahead. This is why I've included a note on my website that I REQUIRE a certain amount of notice. I have no way of knowing whether or not it works, but at least I feel exonerated when I get annoyed at the short-notice requests.

My preferred method of contact for those who want to let me know a little about them or establish rapport prior to meeting is an introductory email AND all the screening info I need. That way I know he's not just "kicking the tires", I learn a little about him, and it allows me to finish screening and set aside time for him before he arrives. While I'm certainly not always 100% booked, since I do tend to schedule in advance, I may not have the specific day/time he needs available if he had waited to contact me. Or I may not have time to finish screening him (it's amazing how long references can take to reply sometimes).

So, to answer your question more succinctly, no, there's nothing wrong with planning ahead as long as the lady you're contacting is also a planner. But since there's often no way to know this ahead of time, go for it anyway. Her response will be your guide as to whether or not you'll be compatible in that way.

Whether I am in my home city (NYC) or travelling, I always try to plan ahead with providers.  Often, I make arrangements a month in advance.  The only time I have every had any pushback in trying to do so has been with agencies (they don't seem to like to schedule far in advance).  All the independents that I have seen have been willing to plan a liason in advance.  For me, it allows time for the passion to build and that enhances the overall experience. Just my .02

Thanks for all the comments....

I can understand the 'emailing first', which I've done before, then maybe calling later if we click. I certainly didn't want to sit there and chat her up for an hour about whatever. Don't have time for that myself. Just wanted to break the ice, say 'hi' and get an idea. Well, I got the idea all right.

BTW, her site said simply 'call or email me' at the end.

Most of your comments have been constructive criticism, and I'm cool with that. That's why I posted this. There's always a better way, and who better to steer you in the right direction than fellow hobbyists and the lovely providers?

There are a few rebuttals I could delve into but for the sake of drama, and especially wasting time, which was one of the major considerations on the ladies' part, I won't.

We'll just say I made my decision on this matter and move on.  

So thanks again for your time!

M