Of "Pompous Ass" then my long-awaited goal of aspiring to be like you has finally paid off. Thank you for your patience during my learning curve. Lol
Yes, I have an OCCASIONAL bad session, but they are rare, but I never whine because there's an equal chance I contributed to the session going bad. Not ever provider connects with every customer and vice versa. I don't think I've ever seen you whine about a session either.
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I was going to see provider yesterday for the 6th time in 1 year and she pulled another "excuse" about how she needs to rearrange the time. This is not the first time she did this to me. I decided to pass on the date and pretty much ever seeing her again. She has so many reviews on TER with amazing communication with first time clients, but with me had issues with 4 appointments with communication and other things during the meet. When I pointed out the things that happened how I was not going to see her again, she apologized multiple times and even offered 50% off for the next day, but I still decided it was time to move on. I seriously felt like I ended up inside the "FRIEND ZONE" with a provider. LOL
Is it normal for a repeat client to get treated worse than first time clients?
Do you guys think I did the right choice?
I also had different provider that tell me " You can take a shower but I need you to get out" after I came really close to end time. I felt really bad because I did not get up and take a shower 5 minutes before the end time, but realized none of our 3 meets ever started on time and was always 8-10min late.
I'm a nice person and treat everybody the way I want to be treated.
Should I not be gentleman and not show a lot of respect during a date?
Sorry, forgot to add that she texted me an "EXCUSE" yesterday 1:50min before the appointment was going to take place. I had just taken a shower and checking my loss on TDAMERITRADE when I got couple of messages from her and it all went down hill after that.
The day before the appointment she asked me to wire her money so she could get the hotel room... then cancelled on me.. less than an hour before... then offered to make it up with a 3 hour appt... WTF.. am i, a 69 year old guy gonna do for 3 hours? And i was a regular.. how to screw up a good thing...
wow, now that is bad.
That is shitty! I've met some really nice ladies, and I've met some that shouldn't be doing this at all. But I never put myself in a position to be taken advantage of. At least not to the point of being flat out ripped off.
an established regular.
The solution I have found is to see other people more often who are on the ball always. Sometimes I’ll go back and see the recalcitrant one and, surprise, the service. Is back up to snuff.
Absence does make the heart grow fonder.
To answer your question: if you have no regrets, then you are doing the right thing.
In my experience, most of them appreciate regulars and act accordingly although there is always the occasional off day. But I've had a few that didn't and after a while I just moved on.
I agree. They may have someone else ask and think it’s easier to shift times rather than ask the other to come at a different time.
Unless you’re someone who schedules more than 1hr or gives great tips, it’s there trying your patience so they can capture someone else new, or who is offering more.
This happens with civvie women as well.
When you're first dating someone that's into you, they're going to be on their best behavior. After a few years, their mode of operation is "he won't leave me so I can treat him however I'd like".
There are exceptions to this rule of course, but I mean, let me know if you find one because I got this guy who can get you a killer deal on these pet rocks.
Especially good providers...
They have no shortage of clients waiting to get in.
So if you don't bring something special to the table, it will be short lived. It will still die out eventually anyway if you visit too often. There may be ladies out there who want long term regulars... But variety is the spice of life. And even the best dish grows stale if you eat it too often.
... and some aren't.
I've tried over the years to favor providers who are good at managing time, and who are professional in other respects. The providers I see most frequently including my ATF are such people. So I don't have problems with them despite many repeat visits. In fact I just saw my ATF today and it was great, as always, even after dozens of dates over several years.
A few providers whom I see on a repeat basis aren't too good with managing time. So when I make a date with them, I always have a backup plan and make sure I confirm with them. There's one UTR provider I know who's a wonderful person and provider, but she has a lot of stuff going on including another job with variable hours, and kids. So she's hard to pin down on time. But I put up with that because I know her situation and she's worth it. And I have my backup plan ready. 
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One seems to always have to change the time . I'm sure she, is like some others have said, a poor time manager. It really hasn't mattered to me, as my schedule is fluid on days that I play. She usually doesn't watch the clock on our sessions and I think she does that as a bit of a make up. One time she surprised me while I was with her doubles partner, as a thank you for adjusting my time with her friend so she could have a client that flew in to see her. She joined us for half an hour. It was great!!!!
I have wondered how she would react if I said that I can't change the time and maybe I'll get back to her to schedule another day. I bet if her adjustment was for another client, she would change the other client. But, because I've been an easy change, she does ask.
I have one that emails me at 5am to cancel a 9:30am session. She's done it multiple times and I just accept that it's a possibility with her. But, she is the best at a few techniques............. Hehehe....... I find that worth the problems.
It happened last week with her and thankfully, my favorite was available that afternoon. I'm actually happy that I got to have fun that afternoon.
Over the years, I much prefer the ladies who add extra time instead of giving discounts for delays or adjustments. I'd much rather the ladies still get their full rate from me. That way there is no opportunity for silly resentments on their part.
As to whether you should see her or not. If you have to ask the question, then you already know your answer. If it stops being a pleasure, don't do it.
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I have never, and will never, ask for a discount, but I have been bumped on occasion where the girl feels like she needs to thank me in some tangible way for giving up my time and rescheduling my date so she could see the other guy too. I think most of the time they go straight to the idea of a discount, but I, too, would much rather just pay the going rate and have her go overtime or else maybe an OTC meal together afterward as a way to thank me. I think some providers misread what is important to us. If we were worried about the cost, we wouldn't be doing this at all, but most of us have arrived in a place in our lives where we want to accumulate great memories rather than stuff (although my children would rather I continue to accumulate "stuff"), so the money we spend on this is not that important, and adding a little extra time enhances the memories and makes for a terrific "thank you" in my book.
Over the years I have been lucky to have a number of paid "relationships" with providers where we connect and I see them multiple times. I have a number who I do regular dinner dates, overnights, travel adventures and special events.
Each is unique and different. Yet they all start and things are great as I feel special. As time goes by they get bored or tired of hanging out with me. They can only get so many fancy dresses, designer shoes, and handbags. Dinner dates become tiresome, overnight mundane, and travel dates become difficult to the point they ask to hook up with another client. Yea I had one on a trip to London she asked if she could meet another client for lunch. I learn after he did not even pay her.
Or they ask for rights of first refusal. That is when I come to town, I need to call her if she can see me great. If she has a regular or another client she wants to see, she will let me see another provider. Sorry, that does not work for me.
Once you get the feeling they are not into it anymore it is time to move on to the next provider. People just get tired of people. It is part of the game.
She always tried to accommodate new clients hoping they will become regulars and had no problem doing it by pushing my time around at the last moment.
Have you ever noticed that some posters seem to have this kind of thing happen to them all the time and others almost never seem to have this happen to them?
Speaking as one of the people who almost never has this kind of thing happen to him, it''s NOT by accident. I simply refuse to be treated like a doormat, and I guess I send out that kind of vibe. I don't get mad, I don't hold my breath, stomp my feet and make a big deal out of having my time disrespected, I simply let people (hookers included) that I won't be treated that way and that they get one strike with me before I simply move on.
When something like this happens once, it's her fault. When it happens multiple times, it might be best to look inward for the solution not outwards.
I hate to use that pompous ass CDL as an example, but when was the last time you saw him here whining about being treated badly by a provider? Just food for thought.
You are right 100%
Of "Pompous Ass" then my long-awaited goal of aspiring to be like you has finally paid off. Thank you for your patience during my learning curve. Lol
Yes, I have an OCCASIONAL bad session, but they are rare, but I never whine because there's an equal chance I contributed to the session going bad. Not ever provider connects with every customer and vice versa. I don't think I've ever seen you whine about a session either.
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I am however an admitted "asshole" and have been often accused of wearing it like a badge of honor. I'll leave the status of "pompous ass" to you as it's both well earned and well deserved. lol
And no, I don't whine about bad sessions either. Not that I never have one, it's just that they are rather rare and quite frankly not worth "whining about", I do think I might have mentioned a couple of them in passing, much in the same way that both of us will occasionally mention our positive experiences in passing, for context if for no other reason. I am pretty certain that neither of us has ever been so butt hurt over a bad session that we felt obliged to start a thread whining about it.
You do yourself a disservice by saying you are only an "asshole." If you think you, too, have never come off here as a little "pompous", take a poll. You already concede you're an asshole. Just put them together. You're assuming I mean it in a bad way. I don't. When you've got it, flaunt it.
I think the bad-session-whining has a lot to do with the whiner's hooker volume. If you're seeing three girls a week, and one in a particular month is a dud, its easy to move on, but if either your budget or your wife's detective work keeps you to one session a month, its going to sting a little if that one session that month is a disappointment, and I can understand the temptation to vent here. However, the only guys that care are those similarly situated. Those of us that just take our lumps and move on without complaining are merely amused.
Independent or an agency girl. An independent is more likely to consider you a regular at 6X/yr than an agency Kgirl, but bumping to accommodate a customer who books multiple hours or is a big tipper is a normal part of the business for popular girls. Being a known tipper gets me a little play as far as priority in scheduling but booking 2 hrs helps a lot more. In fact, I have found my realistic and accommodating attitude about being the bumpee has gotten my thank you's by way of a makeup session that not only ran overtime, but resulted in a higher level of service than I was expecting, which in turn, raises the bar for future service.
She is a highly rated independent and she actually chose the time frame for me to see her. I told her Thursday - Sunday night times and she booked me at the time frame she wanted which was Friday 2hr session starting at 8. I also helped her out OTC with tech issues she was having and never asked for anything in return, but she thanked me many times for helping her out and could not wait to see me when she was visiting which was this past week.
highly rated or lowly rated) are more apt to start late, in my experience. Its not a big issue for me unless they make me wait more than 15 minutes, at which point I text them that I will wait five more minutes and then I'm leaving. Only had to do this a handful of times in nearly ten years. They will almost always get me in before the five minutes are up amid profuse apologies. However, if they want me to leave at the original time, then that is more a problem. I don't expect to get the full time I booked if we start late because I was late getting there or had trouble parking, that's on me, but I do expect to get the full time I booked if we start late because she wasn't ready at the time we agreed.
Looking at the bigger picture, there is a natural cooling off of their effort after you have become a regular. I often address this by asking her if we should have postponed the session because she has something else occupying her thoughts, because today was not at the same intensity I am used to with her. I tell her if there is something going on in her personal life that will prevent her from focusing on our sessions as she has in the past, I am happy to take a break until she works everything out. Its a gentle way to put them on notice with no drama and no accusations. Most of the time, they get the message and the next time we are back to the kind of session that made me a regular in the first place. If not, then she doesn't have to ask me in a month why I haven't seen her for awhile.
The fact that you mention that you helped her with tech issues and never asked for anything in return means that even though you didn't ask, you feel you are owed SOMETHING. I would have told her at the time that you don't expect to get paid anything for helping her, but you will trust that she will think of some way to make you feel special in the future, and leave it up to her. This sets an expectation that you were happy to help her, but there should be a friendly quid pro quo. Remember, your relationship is transactional, not personal. Treat it like any other business transaction and you will not get your feelings hurt.
Half of marriages end in divorce (I did my part.) Can we expect provider/client relationships to fare any better?
... did one spouse pay several hundred dollars an hour to the other spouse each time they had sex?
Hey, maybe that's why they got divorced!
I've seen estimates of the "cost per fuck" of a typical marriage and divorce. Hiring escorts would have been far cheaper.
a cost-per-fuck standpoint the first year or two. After that, you don't even want to think about the kind of woman you COULD have had sex with for that kind of money. Lol
I'll be more direct:
Yes, we can. They are fundamentally different kinds of relationships.
It all depends how you run your business
usually repeat clients we treat them better then ever.
unless you tried to push boundaries
so there is no reason to be treat worse ...
I have regular clients over years that i give perks ....but ...
use me... but not abuse
I apologize to people on this board
english is not my first language
so I write with my accent
but THAT is my charm LOL
cc
And I'll add ...
NOT EVERYTHING THAT GLITTERS IS GOLD
she might just be going through a hard time.. you know sometimes we have our womens day - its alot of work to look top notch where juggling a bunch of stuff behind the scene you dont know about - but i agree she should never confirm an appointment if she doesn't think she can make it..