I'm undecided on this one, and would like to get a sense of  "popular opinion"  regarding this situation.

The weather was not an unknown, he should have gotten going earlier.

...if you hadn't emailed him. This one is on him.

and even worse, you had to contact him instead of the other way around. No excuse when an appointment was set so far in advance. Letting you know only 30 minutes before an appointment booked a month in advance, and only doing so after YOU had to contact him first is all on him.

he cancelled.
That happens but he should have had the courtesy to tell you without you having to contact him.
Simple courtesy.
What if you had someone who could have used that time slot?

He was going to NCNS. Actually he technically did by not calling by the agreed upon time. He knew what the weather was days prior and didn't try to change the appt.  

...you had to contact him. Then he needed to make a change. You tried. It's all on him.

Nothing wrong with a month in advance or even longer.  It's all a matter of what you and the lady are comfortable with.  

You say, "Can you please text me by such and such time, if you find out you will be unable to make it AT ALL tomorrow, so I have the option of doing a late check-out." They then go radio silent at the confirmation time. You opt to renew the room, because you want to air on the side of NOT BEING FLAKEY yourself... ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT, NO, THEY CAN'T MAKE IT. And that they were just too plain RUDE to spend 10 seconds responding with a text!

It seems to be customary to touch base the night before when you book in advance -as I do.  In fact, I can't think of a time where I didn't get a reminder email --- like my dental hygienist does.   Or my barber...  or my cable company... or my electrician...

Posted By: Debra_Hollander

I'm undecided on this one, and would like to get a sense of  "popular opinion"  regarding this situation.  
   
   
 I had a 9:00am booked for today, who scheduled approximately one month in advance.    
   
 He was supposed to contact me for my location by 7:00am.  When 8:00am rolled around and still no word, I emailed him.    
 About 30min later he responded but said due to the bad weather, he would not arrive until 9:30am.    
   
   
 Unfortunately, my schedule could not accommodate that time-change (I did try to move things around, but it just wasn't possible) so I offered to see him this afternoon instead.   He can't do the afternoon. And thus, the date is cancelled.  
   
 To be honest, even if he had advised me of this by 7:00am, I still couldn't have made it work but doing so just 30min prior to when we were supposed to meet made the situation more aggravating for me lol.  
   
   
 My question: Did he cancel?  Did I cancel?  Mutual cancellation?    
   
 What say you?  

not invited to Thanksgiving this year.  I think you are justified in asking for a cancellation fee.  He can either mail it, or you can send over "Louie the Pipe" to collect, his choice.  

I'd just chalk it up, not look to assess blame, and move on as friends.  

For an engagement made so far in advance, he should have touched base with you 24 hours or so before the date, to confirm, cancel or make adjustments. As Mongo mentioned, you could have done this as well.  

You should be commended and his actions (or lack thereof) condemned.

Most guys don't find even the threat of being outed for such a thing even the slightest bit amusing.

He wasn't on time in any manner.  It's on him.

I will take the secrets of my sweet, generous, and considerate clients with me, to my grave.

could it be because he bagged out on DH? Of course ... if he was close by, weather should be a non factor. Further away ... maybe a call the day before asking how you would like to handle potential weather concerns.  

I'm well aware of such practices and making these threats only hurts the cause of those who advocate only screening with real-world info.  

When you have a doctors appointment, you have a certain amount of time to cancel if needed or else there will be a fee. He did not communicate with you on a timely matter- which was 7am. He was the one who breached the oral contract. (No pun intended)

The punishment needs to fit the crime. Costing someone their job, their marriage, their kids etc etc. because they cost you a couple of hundred bucks is beyond the pale. Just like me contacting all your clients and telling them this is how you really feel, over some dumb shit you said here on the board would also be over the top.  

They flagrantly wasted my time and then got VERY RUDE when I called them on their behavior.

It was very nice of you to reach out to him before he actually became a NCNS...

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I am on her side considering they agreed on 7am contact and she didn't hear from him until 1.5 hours later.

then that is bad on his part. He should have contacted you.  If you mentioned he hadn't left yet I missed it - I apologize - but that changes it to me.  Shows a lack of good faith on his part.  

I bet you if you asked a thousand guys if they would EVER see a hooker that they thought had even a one percent chance of acting like you did, I bet you 999 of them would say no. I am sure there is probably one dumb fuck BSU, maybe that Google guy who is such a jellyfish that he would "understand" why you would do such a thing. Any guy with his ballsack intact would avoid you like the plague if they could "see behind the curtain"

I am already "out" and as such I am blackmail proof. You can only blackmail somebody with the "threat" of outing them. Once you actually do it, there is no more threat.

My point is that hearing how others were threatened, especially WITHOUT consciously handing over said information, makes many even more leery of "giving" it to those who require it.

Those people I will go to great lengths to protect.

Someone might take you seriously and take preemptive steps to protect themselves.

Yeah, because THAT never, EVER happens.

that's what I said

He cancelled, albeit late. He should have called sooner. You muddied the waters by contacting him although I would have also. You did the right thing to try contact, it shows grace. What do you know of the weather, was it an issue? You could cut some slack if weather was a real thing. Perhaps he was busy getting there and couldn't text/email.... maybe? If not, then he is at fault for not calling.
As a client, when do I call? I'm a little late, but traffic screws up and I'm going to be later. Then something unexpected happens and ....
Or he was a jerk.
I get your end of it, appointments, scheduling, etc. You can only do what you can do. He should have called but he didn't. Bottom line for me is do you believe the WEATHER excuse?

A dumb john perhaps, but usually when people call me a whore, they mean it as a compliment.

...don't wait an hour before contacting.
If he doesn't contact you by agreed time, Give his ass a wake up call.

If you somehow inferred that, well...... I really don't see how. LOL.

Technically you're not, if you're only GIVING it away.  

if this is now true.  I was told by cell phone companies that this was not possible. What if a hooker gives up her cell phone to LE?  I actually don't give a shit but knowing someone can do that raises some concerns.  What if the hooker finds your real name and address and while you are doing her, her driver is doing your house.

with someone they just NCNSed?

and of course I am not saying I am not a man-whore. That would be like saying I am not a drunk.

You will shit yourself if you knew exactly is traceable and exactly how much information is available for money. Your email is traceable. This is assuming you conduct business with it.  

And he told you, "That's life. Maybe you should get a real job," and hung up on you?

ask the hobbyist to confirm 48-72 hours ahead of time. This may have prevented him from cancelling last minute. Do you have a cancellation fee listed on your website?  

I hate how a lot of you guys assume you have "more to lose," than we do! We are ALL real live human beings, with families, friends, and full existances... trying to thrive, or at least SURVIVE.

Words to live by.

Something came up (forgot? changed mind?), and he tried to make an excuse because you called him on it. A cancellation is when you tell the other person way in advance. This is the kind of thing that hurts all the good guys. My policy is a quick 'see you tomorrow' email the night before. And then an 'I'm on my way' email the next day before the session. How hard is that? Many times I like to plan sessions out a month or more in advance. This type of thing makes the ladies not want to do that. For example, my whole summer is already planned. I know the exact dates and times I can party. Why not tentatively set that up with a dependable atf? But now Mr. Knucklehead f*cked that up.

cell phone reverse look up work on throw-away/pre paid phones? which many guys use
That is if you really do have that look up

...what would have happened if you *hadn't* called him to see where he was? You calling him merely made him get organized, not the other way around.

As Scoed said, all it takes sometimes is a single incident of crossing "personal" and "hobby" accounts, AND THAT'S IT. Certain sites aggregate all those various accounts and compile them in tidy little dossier.

Be considerate GaG.  Some of us aren't in a place where the selection is so stout that you can pick and choose a lady and see her within hours.  I have had to book as far as 3 weeks out to ensure my session with a touring lady.  

Very few johns ever learn the real name, much less address of the hookers they see.  

Not to mention it really doesn't matter if he booked a month out or the day before. His behavior was a mere cunt hair better than a NCNS. I have little doubt that if she hadn't reached out to him, he would have simply not shown up, leaving her hanging.

It was in her own self interest to ask this guy if he planned on showing up. Is your dentist being "classy" when his office calls you the day before your appointment to remind you to show up?

I often make dates up to two months in advance. Sure I have had a few cancel out but at a no greater rate then dates made a few days ahead. Most of my out and out flakes happen when I booked last minute. And on my end I only missed one appointment because my son got sick and my sitter needed me to pick him up. I not counting times I cancelled because the lady was running way late so I told her to forget it. I have a very low tolerance for unprofessional behavior from those I pay.

Those can get robbed. They can get robbed by guys that "have a bad feeling" about the location then turn away after they've received the address and apartment number.  

But I have noticed a trend on the posts whining about NCNS and cancellations from BOTH the guys and the girls, most of the whiny posts start out with "We booked the appointment well in advance"  

Well posting does but only because it can be broken into 5 minutes here or there but nothing like a session. I rarely book last second but my track record doing so isn't great.

but maybe with any luck one of the fatty twins will take the other side and there will still be hope for me?

Agree 100% with you.  That's way over the top to "out" someone over a NS!