What do some of you guys do to help ease the tension at the first meeting with a new lady? A little gift?, a little time spent with conversation?, jokes?, come on give it up and share with the rest of us.

Ladies, what can we guys do at that first meeting to put you more at ease (I know you're probably just as apprehensive as I am the first time)?

Personally, I like flowers just to let her know that I don't have just a pay to play attitude.

Thanks in advance,
pt

In each of my incall experiences, all with favorably reviewed ladies, and none under $$$, I have been offered a drink, engaged in conversation for an average of 15-20 minutes prior to actually beginning sexual interaction, offered a shower before and afterward and NEVER asked for money upfront.  
All you should do is show up looking presentable and clean, be nice to the provider and be prepared to pay her what was agreed upon prior to the session.

Pt,

Generaly, I'm an individual that perfers o/call.  This enables me to prepare a little snack and some wine or even dinner. (I've got good restaurants near me that have excellent takeout. I'm not a good cook, atleast in the form of food preparation)hehehe  

At that point, I will give her a token, based on our previous phone conversations.  Nothing extravagant, notecards with enevelopes, a set of candles that a friend of mine sells, or I'll burn a custom CD with the music she likes, but something related to her likes that I might of picked up on.  

Generaly I can say that the ice has been pretty much broken, and it becomes more a matter of flood control(NPI). LOL

Hope that helps, happy hunting

G.

I never thought you were such a romantic!

LM

ps- well yes I did, but now it is confirmed! L

Well I have to admit, I have never done the CD thing. Of course I am still in 20th century and don't own a CD burner yet. Soon. But I agree with the both of you. Bring something if you can, even a bottle of wine, champagne or candles. I often ask what kind of wine a woman likes. All of these gestures are truly appreciated and quite frankly appropriate. Think of it. A kind word or thoughtful (albeit small) gift is fitting for the ocassion, unless you are looking for the slam bam event. If that is true, regardless of what you bring your true colors will remain opaque for only a few moments. My 2 cents.

Aside from a card or gift, or a seven course meal brought to you by Gandalf (with or without the rings) a person to person talk, which is not always easy with someone you've never met, goes a long way. Show some interest, as you should, in a woman as a person and not just as a "provider".

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NOSC,

I can not argue at all with what you are saying.  Looking directly into the others eyes, smiling, holding the others hand across the table, showing real interest in what is being said versus just listening, all are extremely important.  

I will argue that I feel it is my shared responsibility to let the lady feel comfortable, and at ease, considering she more times than not will be on unfamiliar ground. So as the host, I feel I must let my guest know where they can safely put their things, and that everything is just so.  It's a matter of respect for the individual.  Especially, since I didn't invite a Russian over for a 20 minute squirt.

The fact that I may give a TOKEN, is more from my upbringing.  Being raised in a French enviornment (Mom was a WarBride).  I was taught that it is customary to offer a small gift, when you meet somebody.  So, it is more for my own comfort, that I am following the protocol that I was raised by.  Although I have found that the recipient was more than deserving of the gester.

That said, it is the individual that matters, despite the fact that companionship is being contracted for, we are still dealing with human beings.  Lovely ones at that.

My added 2 cents worth.

G.

I can't believe, I could only work the word Especially in only onces. Damn.

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And NOSC you have a wonderful smile and always kind words.

G, you really are a hopeless romantic- "invite a Russian over for a 20 minute squirt"  I'm still laughing.

Seriously though, I always bring a small gift too.  But after all of the above suggestions- some wine, soft music and engaging conversation while staring into each other's eye it gets bigger.  

But I can't get away with saying something like that, only Lustman can.  Maybe if I paid LM a royalty he'd allow me to make bad jokes on his behalf when he's too busy.  Hmm, it could work.  

Right about now, GND is regretting using the word "intelligentsia" in a thread further down the board.  





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Chocolate is supposed to stimulate the same areas in the brain and release some of the same chemicals as sex which makes it both pleasureable and addictive.

Or is this just an urban legend started by Godiva?

Now as to the straw of course!  Try it with 7 up or Ginger Ale, as that is pretty neat.  And if you want to be truly radical (or odd as is in my case the truth) try a Red Vine Martini also know as JPtini.

1. Take 3 sticks of Red Vines and drop in to a bottle of Strawberry Vodka for two days after that put the bottle in to the freeze.  Also cut 2 or 3 sticks of Red Vine in half and put that in the freeze as well for later.

2. Depending upon how dry you like your Martini, if you like a proper dry Martini put the Vermouth on top of the freeze not IN the drink or in the freeze but on top of.  In the freeze would be far too close for the vermouth and IN the Martini well, well, that, that... would be too much.  I think I have to sit down after that thought!

3. Now it is time to make the drinks or is that doughnuts?  Hmmm..  Oh yea drinks.  Take your favorite glasses chill accordingly.  Add a few drops of Vermouth.  Okay so I am inconsistent as a bartender.  Swirl it around the glass.

4. Strain the Vodka and then pour in to the glass add a drop of lemon juice (fresh of course) and garnish with a half stick of Red Vines (the one from the freeze see step 1) and presto!  A Red Vine Martini.

--JP

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G2,

Now this is a tough question to answer.  If I state the truth then the conscious if not at least subconscious association with lust, love, and chocolate that I work so hard for and hope the ladies have -- may well be dispelled!

But then again a question was asked of the community that I think I might be able to provide a small and slightly less than meaningless answer for.  Hmmmm.  A difficulty for sure.  But when in doubt disclosure is the best policy.  So here it goes, and remember ladies do not read any further than this last word.

Yes the above last word, NOSC!  And FF is that you peaking further down this post?  Hmmm... You bad girl you!  And of course GND you most turn of one of your “Goddess powers” of editing and approval.  Oh well.  Guys I tried.

Now after that visit to digression lane (or more like a sub-lease) to the question at hand.

Actually there are several studies out that show the "seductive" qualities of chocolate such as the fact that chocolate contains Phenyethylamine which has associations in brain chemistry for both love and lust.  Also that chocolate will induce the b-endorphin pathway that is part of the "pleasure processes" of the brain.  So yes the "chemistry" (PI) is such that there are many chemicals in chocolate that are associated with love and lust but alas the beautiful hypothesis of love, lust, and chocolate is ruined by an ugly little fact.

And that fact is that the quantities of the “sex” chemicals are so small in chocolate that to get a signal endorphin path response, the average women would by some estimates have to eat about 7 kilograms of chocolate at a sitting.

Now as to the addictive part, that is a little more interesting.  First, again the chemicals (even the caffeine) that could form an addiction are so small that they do not figure in the addiction physiology.  However the sugar part of Chocolates can have an addictive quality and interesting enough there are a couple studies that tend to show that it is the texture and feel on ones lips and in ones mouth that maybe the component causing the “ chocolate addiction". Actually the texture and feel in my mouth may explain a lot my addiction to DATY!  What did I just type that out loud!!!  Oh no…..

So, that is the facts that I know!  At least my chocolate induced bias of the facts!

Of course this does not change my opinion that chocolate is the food of the Gods and that the Ambrosia stuff was really just the amuse bouche.


--JP

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Lustman is a persona I developed at the suggestion of
one of my most favorite providers.  Why it is LUSTMAN, I cannot
tell you, it would blow my anonymity out the door, Internic
records being what they are...

Anyway, Lustman is my second incarnation on TER.
I originally signed on as CleanDog (w00f!) a persona that I
maintained intermittantly on ASP through 1999-2000.
I cannot say that cleandog's personality was any different than
LM's... what I can tell you is that CD was celibate from
early 1998 through early this year.  I would guess that had some influence on my postings (few that they were.)

Lustman developed from experiencing the creme-de-la-creme of LA\OC's incall providers IMHO.  Just look at my early reviews.
Lustman loves women, loves the interaction and certainly disdains the quick-pop.

Cleandog grew up on the streets over a number of years going back to 1976.
Cleadog does not care to form attachements nor get to know
ladies any further than how well they perform bbbj's
or some other act.

As much as I prefer LM over CD, there are days,
more now than not, that I wish I was not Lustman.
I cannot seem to find a shred of Cleandog, to save my life!

If one lives on a steady diet of appetizers, do they not become
the main course?

LM

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Walk a mile in my shoes and you will get blisters!


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Nicole, I too wish to use JP's "inconsistent" recipe.  Together with you and red vines would be incredible.  Let's have a freezer fest.  Whatever else ... chocolates? Yes!  there is a Parisian Chocolate that I've been recently introduced to...discovered I prefer to Godiva's, it's called
Saldivar, I think...can't quite recall the name(salivate would be close, but not it)the chocolate is so fine that it drips down the throat with such thick sweet liquidy softness.

oops, i've melted off...

ff



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as far as I'm concerned, and a proper martini is made with gin, preferably Bombay Sapphire or Boodles, with an olive, up.  But, whether made with gin or vodka, I agree with you--they are dangerous!  





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Chocolate is in a food group all of its own and is necessary for survival.

Felicia:  Please let me know what the name of that brand of chocolate is when you remember.  I have long sworn by Godiva, although I have enjoyed others (kind of like men).  

NNOSC,

P, JP here (said with my best British accent.  Which btw is not that good) and you are correct that it is shaken not stirred.

What is funny about that is that shaking a Martini is considered a bit rude and certainly incorrect by many.  Why?  As it "bruises" the drink by adding more water to it then necessary by increasing the melting of the ice therefore diluting the drink.  Martini people are a funny lot for certain.

As to disastrous results from a Martini?  Unconceivable!  It must have been a poorly made Martini!  That surely is the reason.

--JP

Have stirring wand, will travel.

Time on one's hands is a side effects of too much schooling that also resulted in too much drinking.  There was a time where a group of us decided to invent a new Martini a day.  Of course you had to test each new Martini by drinking and as all good scientist know you just can not do one experiment, and...  You can guess where that led?  This lasted for over two years the accumulation of this "Martini a day” eventually went on to become a book published by one of my roommates and an article in the Times.

Of course for every Red Vine success there were dozens of stunning diasters like the Garlic Martini!  Yes it is true and don't ask!

--JP

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My Dearest Nicole, those enticing thoughts of yours do successfully entice me, my dear.  So shall we set a date??  Upon which night is Midsummer's Night Dream to fall?  Alas, we must share the icecream of the ejaculate, spiced by redvine martinis, only to be outdone by those wondrous chocolates (the donor be present ~ I know you would agree).

Ahem.

will be forthcoming shortly with the name of the chocolate (The box is hidden in my other nest ~ the LOVERS' nest.)

Faithfully feminine,

ff



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Absolutely forthcoming, my dear.  I know how we ladies must SURVIVE, especially in the absence of what is it called?  LOVE ... ah, yes.

xoxo

ff

Ladies, the chocolate in my post above is from Paris, it was a gift, I will inquire about acqusition of same, but the name is Saldivan (if incorrect, it is within one or two letters) .

Very very very fine chocolate, and delicate.  Actually the best I've ever had the pleasure to enjoy.

Although I am not a big chocolate consumer, 'twas a most appreciated gift, indeed, a delicacy.

xoxo

ff




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FFxx,

Could you be thinking of Salavin?  That is a chocolatier in Paris?

They are located at 9 av de Verdun - 75010 Paris and the telephone number is 01 46 07 59 85.



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That is MOST definitely it.  Thank you from myself and on behalf of the other ladies who asked.

xoxo

ff

And thank you, FF, for widening our chocolate horizons.

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