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eriobotrya 3849 reads
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I would not go see someone rated a 6 in appearance, unless I could tell convincingly from her pics that I would rate her higher. When searching, I tend to exclude for 7s and above in both categories.

To me, a 6 is someone I wouldn't want to date in real life because her appearance was insufficient to me. Of course, there's all the other issues to factor in, but strictly in terms of appearance, that's what "6" means to me.

verysadandblue7685 reads

I am a provider who is use to getting 8's and 7's. Lately, I have received 3 6's in looks. My pics are all updated, and my look has not changed. My performances have remained GREAT. I am not sure what is going on here. I still get men who flirt with me when I am out, so I know that I am attractive. So, I have some questions for you gentlemen: Does a 6 rating really mean not attractive? If you see a provider's profile with a 6 rating, would you go see her still? I know that men are more visual, so how would your vision effect in your decision making to see someone with 6 ratings in looks? I know that beauty is  in the eye of the beholder, but with these recent additions, I am not starting to feel my best inside. I am not sure if I should stay in the business and do something else, although I really enjoy making men happy. I would like some honest opinions here, for right now I am not feeling much of a woman :(

Considering the scale is one to ten, a six would be slightly above average. Not like we are talking about cracking mirrors at ten paces or anything. No one has suggested that you wear a bag over your head during sessions have they?

The silly Appearance and Performance numbers are completely arbitrary. A number of the reviews I have seen state the woman is gorgeous but give her a 6 or 7 because she is not 20 years old even though she never advertised that she was that young. You have to learn to balance the reviewer against his reviews. There are some guys that give accurate and well balanced reviews, I try to keep track of them. Most are of the wham bam thank you ma'am variety and some are just written by morons. It is not unusual to see a Performance rating of 7 but read the review and find out this guy had the time of his life and the lady did everything for him but his taxes :)

Try to be get a little emotional distance from the reviews. Take everything with a grain of salt. When I read a ladies reviews, I usually read the 3 highest and three lowest ratings for performance and ignor the apperance rating. After all that is what pictures are for. The details are much more important than those two stats. Ignore the idiots. Enjoy your regulars and be open to interesting guys in the future. There will be plenty more idiots but there are a few good ones in there as well.

L.3547 reads

A lot smarter!  :-)  I'm going to print your post out and tape it to my mirror.

"It is not unusual to see a Performance rating of 7 but read the review and find out this guy had the time of his life and the lady did everything for him but his taxes."  LOL!

I would add only one thing.  It seems that another common reason for lower-than-expected scores is when a reviewer is disappointed.  Even if a lady is very attractive, if she is less attractive than he expected, then he is likely to score her lower in appearance and often performance than she deserves.

Fermatslast5270 reads

Don't let a couple of ratings slightly lower than normal worry you - remember 6 still is "nice" which to me is still positive.  I for one would not let 2-3 6's among a bunch of 7's and 8's stop me from seeing someone.  Too bad you did not put a link to your website so we could let you know what we think.

verysadandblue3451 reads

I wanted to say thank you both for taking the time out to give me so good advice :) I actually cracked my first smile for the day.

I wanted to add in my first post, how would you men feel about a provider asking upfront if he is not attracted to her, that then they can both just end the session right at the door, before it begins? I think that would save each other's time, he doesn't have to spend his money on someone that he is not attracted to (not his model type of woman, that is), and he can look for someone more appealing? Also! I think it's a great idea for he didn't lose out on his money and he doesn't have to write a review. Just curious on what your thoughts are. I am seriously thinking of adding a verbal disclaimer of some sorts when meeting.



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... so both appearance and performance ratings, but ESPECIALLY appearance ratings, have meaning only compared to how the SAME reviewer rated other ladies.

this account just to spite Fermat ?  I just think it's too funny someone would go by such a handle LOL.

ChrissyStone5256 reads

For us non-mathematicians here, has Fermat's theorem ever been successfully proven?

Is the proof Nobel-prize worthy, or just historically important for the unsolved mystery?

A Spectator3450 reads

has its own Nobel prize which if I remember correctly is the Field Medal.

To me, usually it is self evident that everyone is beautiful in their own way.

I always take the middle ground on reviews (throw out the high and the low).  If all of the grades have been consitently high and there are low ones usually someone is grading unduly harsh.  Clearly, this is totally subjective and as several people have said what is attractive to one person is not to others.  I judge for myself.

Recently, I have read a few reviews and then checked the web sites to view the photos.  I couldn't believe how inaccuarte (in my opninion) they were.  The average ratings for looks were 7-8 when they should have been much higher.  I couldn't believe that they were looking at the same lady I was.

That is one of the very difficult parts of being reviewed and judged.  In some respects, the human aspect has been taken out of it and it is purely analytical (for example, how the performance reviews focus on mechanics and not on other factors).

Don't worry to much about it.  I know it is tough to hear but don't let a couple of people change your feelings about yourself.

A Spectator3988 reads

before I made a judgement on a lady.

Unfortunately, I have seen some reviewers lowered their look ratings on a lady because for some reasons they didn't like her performance.  On the other hand, I have also known first hand that a few reviewers told the truth about a lady's look while her other reviewers grossed over her faults because they loved her performance.

It is important to have a tough skin in this business and not let others affect your mood.  Continue to do what you think is right and make you comfortable.  Let those remarks slide off your back.

Good luck.

eriobotrya3850 reads

I would not go see someone rated a 6 in appearance, unless I could tell convincingly from her pics that I would rate her higher. When searching, I tend to exclude for 7s and above in both categories.

To me, a 6 is someone I wouldn't want to date in real life because her appearance was insufficient to me. Of course, there's all the other issues to factor in, but strictly in terms of appearance, that's what "6" means to me.

verysadandblue3797 reads

and my ratings in performances have always been 9's and 10's. I am told all the time that I look way better than my pics, and I get hit on all the time when I am in my civilian life.

What troubles me now, is that I could be losing business now, because I have been rated a 6 (although my performance to these recent reviews have been 9's).

AGain, I am thinking of when now meeting to ask the gentleman upfront that if he is not entirely happy with my looks that we just end the session. I look at it this way, he is not wasting his money on someone that he is not really attracted to. Also, I know for myself what turns me on is when I am turning that someone else on. If I sense that he is not happy with my appearance that does put a damper on things for me as a woman.

CelticLass3921 reads

What I learned during my tiume was that most guys will take the highest and lowest scores and throw them out and then in their own way average out the rest of the scores.

If you begin to get 6's across the board then there mayt be an issue, but if the norm is 7's and 8's do not stress.

As long as your pictures are accurate, give a good depiction of how you look and you perform to the standards you set on your website you will be fine. I wouldn't worry much about losing business over this. It takes alot of low scores and bad reviews for it to really start affecting your business. I have seen girls with reviews rated as a 4 on looks and a 1 on service and guys STILL book time with them. Go figure.

Keep the standard of service you have set for yourself and your clients and you will be fine. Low scores sting, I know, I got a couple of 6's, but each man has his own standard of beauty.

xoxox
Lass

imemine5524 reads

I think many men feel obligated to go through with a session even though they're disappointed with the looks of the provider, which can only be based on what her web site photos looked like.  Solution:  Keep your pics accurate looking so there's no let down.

AZChewy4285 reads

I have to agree with Ellerby. The score needs to be considered within the ratings of a particular reviewer. One man's 6 can be another man's 10 remember. I don't think the idea of some sort of disclaimer or initial series of questions for the gentleman makes any sense. He is there because, I must assume, he found something interesting or attractive about you in the first place. Unless you have gained 30 pounds suddenly, experienced severe hair loss, boobs sagging to your knees overnight or contracted an ungodly smell, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this.  :)

Keep the ole chin up!

Every guy has his own scale, to me a 6 represents a gal who nicely dressed is attractive enough to turn some (not all maybe) male heads when she enters a room.  As far as the reviews are concerned the thing that's most important to me is any mention of the accuracy in person as compared to the photos.  Unless the photos show only one angle etc, I can make my own judgement.

I probably put less emphasis than many guys do on a gal's appearance...that's not to say I have a damn thing against being with someone I think is super hot, but to me the performance is far more important & the personality also plays a part in how good a time I have.  I've been with a couple of gals who were 6's (by my scale) that I've had fantastic times with, far better than a couple who were 9's (by my scale).

per3004329 reads

Honey, I wouldn't lose sleep over this.  Rating scales are so subjective-looking pictures posted have seen several 6, 7, and 8's that I would've given a 9 or 10......go figure!

Anita Dick3785 reads

A well adjusted, married man looks for above average looks (6 at minimum) but seems to concentrate on performance (8 minimum).  He could get it for free, but worries about complications so he sees escorts, because... "We're paid to leave" stolen from a hobbyist.  

He doesn't care to cause problems so he rarely will degrade or want to hurt a provider by giving her lower than average scores compared to the majority of reviewers.  He's got something to lose.  

You might try screening by asking "What type of lady are you attracted to?"  

Congratulations on the fantastic performance!  I'd rather have customers out looking for fun than a guy looking for his next girlfriend anyway :)  Put up 20 new pictures on your site, that should give the guys a good idea for expectations.  

I get the same numbers as you do and I have more business than I can shake a stick at.  Don't worry sweetie.  You had a string of bad luck.  Some of these fools will see a guy give you a 6 and go with the flow rather than have a spine.  The pendulum will drift back to a bunch of 8's and then back to 7's.  It's maddening!  I try to ignore them, but it's like having your boss give you a review everyday.  

verysadandblue3737 reads

Omigosh, now I am starting to cringe when I receive an email saying that my profile has been updated! lol It is very maddening with the back and forth's of scores. I will admit with the recent additions to the scores, I haven't been myself
:( I actually turned down 2 dates to see men yesterday, for now I have this complex of they are not going to like me. For now, I think I am going to take some time off, and luckily I have some money saved to live on for a while.

Thanks Anita :)

Anita Dick2941 reads

Don't take time off because of the dweebs with NO LIFE. Avoid the desperately seeking girlfriend types and see guys you know while selectively screening those you don't know.

Get a ton of new pics up, it really takes your power back.  

You'll still get a few who have to see you due to your awesome performance and rate you low on looks.  

I avoid the ones that say "you're not usually my type, but I just have to see you."  It's degrading and not worth it!

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thebadboy5554 reads

Great advise Anita, love to see some of those photos Anita! Don't let that crap get you down Sad...I'm sure you're a beautiful person. The review system is completely subjective & no one perceives everyone the same way. Attitude & performance are much more important to me anyway & the good looks are a bonus.  I'm lucky my ATF has all three...life is good!

totalvirgin3684 reads

If you've got pictures, why would anyone be that concerned if a few guys didn't think you were a total knockout? The prettiest petite girl in the world ain't gonna do it for a guy into breasts.

wouldn't a 6, if we were saying that it's from 1-10, and a 5 is in the middle, meaning average in looks (which average isn't a bad thing, is it?), then why wouldn't a 6 mean "better than average"? And is there anything bad about being better looking than the 'average' woman??
Even if someone rated a 5, wouldn't that be the 'average woman'?
Most men like looking at America's average women, no?
So, then, only a 4 would start the tears, because a 4 would mean 'below average'..
I dunno..that's how I see it anyway..
Lass is right, so listen to her and Greywolf's views..

TER but unfortunately it has not been really followed.  Some have tried to follow it but many have not.  My opinion of a 6 is similar to Greywolf's.  And I also agree with his statements about some 9's and 6's I have seen over the years.  

Also other than having your average raised, how good do you really feel when you get a 10 - 10 and then find out that of his 10 reviews the hobbyist has given out 8 10-10's.  To him you really were just average.  Or maybe he has such a bad self image of himself that any lady who sees him for any amount of $ is a once in a lifetime experience in both performance and looks.

You really do have to read the review, check the other reviews from the reviewer rather than just fixate on the numbers as an absolute.

Also Silly Rabbit brought up a good point.  I would tend to put attitude and personality in the performance rating and keep appearance as just appearance.  Spectator does it in reverse and puts personality in with appearance.

Bottom line is that none of this is worth the worry.




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A Spectator4356 reads

and charming than a pouty face.  A smiling face is often seemed to be prettier than a frowned one.  Obviously, this cannot be done way out of proportion.

Just my 2 cents.

shamrocker4177 reads

I personally disagree with most of the guys on ter in reference to looks,,,way back when when i did reviews i got flack for my high ratings of women.....I know not all guys rate the way i do.yet personality warmth and humor in my humble opinion make a woman a total ten :)
take care Sham...

When I do a search I set the lower limit at 7 on looks but remember the search gives you an average so if you have an occasional 6, you would most like average to 7.  If you can't even average to 7 there are just too many providers and only one me who has to pay for it to see someone who averages a six.

By the way I consider 7 to be average on the scoring scale.  My ATF's through the years have averaged 8-9.  There are only a few women in the world I would give a 10 to (Kathy Ireland, Rebecca Stamos) but also only a few I would give a 5 or 6 too.  Just as every man is hansome in their own way, nearly every woman has some feature that makes them attractive.  They just have to find a man who can see that in them.

So screw the guys who gave you 6's.  Remember the 2nd and the 3rd guy were still willing to see you even though they knew you were getting 6's for appearance.

CumToThinkofIt4450 reads

I think my ATF is the living-end but my pal gave her a 7 on looks. Who's right & who's wrong???
  Chin up; Unless you recently fell into a pool of terminal ugly these tepid reviews will fade into history while your continued good performance and attitude will garner many new great reviews.

   CTToI

I know a lady that I have seen 4 times that I find to be attractive.  She is 34, 5'8", nice long legs, with a great trim body.

Her breasts sag, and she is self concious about this.

Her face is "nice".  Not gorgeous, but pleasant.  Her body is prettier than her face might rate.

She has a great personality, very funny, very sweet. If you include personality into the LOOKS rating, as A Spectator does, I would give her an 8.

But not to mislead others into thinking she is a model, I would give her a 6 in the strictest sense. And she is great!  It is very hard to incorporate all of this... Should I give her a 7?  

Some guys might not think too hard about it all and just go with their initial gut feeling.  Others already think that the LOOKS ratings are already inflated and are adjusting down.  We are both confused, you and I.  Just remember....

Sedona is always right.

-SillyRabbit

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Excuse me but aren't men offering to pay you for your company? And you're insecure about your looks? Doesn't make sense to me.
No one has responded to your question about asking a guy before a session if you look ok to him. I have had a number of girls ask "am I ok" before a session. I don't find anything wrong with that. But I don't think it's necessary

CyberRhino3901 reads

Just think about famous folks.  Some people think Lorenzeo Lamas and Christina Ricci are totally hot, others think they're a shaggy-maned dog and a giant forehead.  So somebody didn't like your lips/nips/hips.  So what?  Sounds like most guys do!

sweetandtender4501 reads

I was scored a 6 on one review,I consider myself much higher.Im in my 30s he was in his 50s and I believe he was having sexual problems on medication or something, he was overweight.Because of his disappointment with his functions.I was scored low which is too bad !It made him feel better about his problem putting me down.It gave him, A power trip to give me a crap review.I consider A 6 A poor rating in my eyes,Im not saying Im a perfect 10 nobody  out there in the world is perfect or we would be God if we were.

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