bbbe"I just found out tonight seeing someone these days is extremely difficult.  Especially a highly reviewed lady for an outcallshe still wouldn't see me unless I have 2 references."

Its a lot like fishing. If you haven't been in years its best to fish inshore a few times. Catch some small ones and get the hang of it, before you go offshore again for the big ones.

There are sooooooo many great ladies in the area. We are so lucky. get on the local boards and make yourself known.

You have enought reviews to know what's what, right? Just give it a bit of time.



HalfHour

Hi fellow hobbyists and providers,

I have been out of the the game for about 5 years.  I just found out tonight seeing someone these days is extremely difficult.  Especially a highly reviewed lady for an outcall.  Due to scheduling conflict, this provider has finally agree to see me at my place after 3 weeks of back and forth of email and phone calls.

Since I haven't seen anyone for the past 5 years, I don't have any provider references.  I do have one whitelist referral.  But at the very last minute, this provider turned me down due to issues with the reference.  I was like, WTF?  So I sent her all my name, work information, phone number, phone extension, website.  My name is even listed on the company website for christ sake.  And she still wouldn't see me unless I have 2 references.  Sigh

I understand where she's coming from.  But what else can I give to assure her I'm legitimate.  Should I scan my social, birth cert, company paycheck, driver license, and send to her?  So freaking frustrated.

BBBE - Back in the game, but highly discourage

She is not only concerned that you are legit, but also wants to know that you will treat her like she wants to be treated, you are respectful, clean, safe, etc.  She can't find this out by checking out your employment alone which is why she wants to talk to a lady you've seen before.  The good thing is, that even though she wont see you now, someone else will.  You just have to check around.  After you have a few references, check back with her and she'll probably see you.

Its like someone applying for credit who does not have a credit history.  You may get turned down at first but soon someone will give you a chance!  You mentioned the lady is highly reviewed which might mean she is be able to be choosy.  Dont take it personally.  She doesnt know you yet and is simply looking out for her own best interests!

You're probably right.  I just signed up with a provider verification service pending verification.  Hopefully that will help ease providers from false alarms.  I can tell you this much.  The game has definitely changed since the early 2000s.  I have to re-learn all this shiit, damn lol.

Thanks Tracy for your input.  I understand where providers are coming from.  They have to look out for themselves and I completely understand that.  The reference part is probably what gets me frustrated.  I saw one lady after the 5 year layoff and she can't really provide any reference since it was setup with a "mama-san".  The mama-san could care less to give me reference anyway.  So I'm screwed on the current reference.

As for the respectful, clean, safe part.  I am more than willing to meet for like coffee first at some place at the provider's choosing.  If the provider doesn't like how I look, smell, or act, I have no problem for the provider to tell me to take a hike.  I walked off on providers before and I don't mind providers do the same.

Won't this person give you a referal?

and to the OP, You aren't exactly out in the sticks were there is any kind of shortage of provdiders.

Fuck her and the horse she rode in on, why jump through so many hoops just to fuck her for an hour or so?

Contrary to the bullshit people are attempting to feed you, there is no shortage of well reviewed, quality providers, that won't ask you for your life history before seeing you.

Don't listen to a bunch of ball-less, mangina, newbies that will acquiesce to every demand a provider makes of them, no matter how unreasonable.

I am sure "he" is just a troll with nothing to add to the conversation.

Even an asshole like me couldn't find anything to get "bad vibes" about from your OP, and I am willing to bet, neither did "thinking_outloud.

I get the point that "providers are just looking out for themselves" and I do agree, up to a point that is.

My point is rather than spend an untold amount of time trying to satisfy one providers rather inflexible demands, you live in a big city with literally thousands of choices, simply move on to the next one. The provider you are trying to see can't be THAT special, can she?

I think we need one lol

Welcome back! I'm sure you will get the hang of the way things are now in no time. Just work on that casting wrist action lol

ICB, thanks for your support.  But be nice now.  Providers are just looking out for themselves.  I completely understand where they are coming from.  The provider reference is the part that screws me.  Even though I am a LONG time ter member with 20+ reviews, all the past ladies I saw have been retired.  The last one I saw was through a booker and I can't really use her as a reference.  I signed up on a verification site and hopefully that will be good enough for most providers.

No good.  The last one was through a booker.  Can't really use her as a reference.

Halfhour, thanks for your input.  I might start posting on the local boards again.  This business has definitely changed over the years.  Back in the early 2000s, 2 call system was the norm.  Now, it's like verification to the max, 10 calls, a million emails later, AND even with a long review history of my TER account, providers still deny me.  WTF.  Sigh....

Obviously, she was not comfortable with your back and forth email.
Trust is needed for the date to push through .. and she decided not to trust you.
And there's nothing you can do about it, even with papers and stuff.
She has shown some rigid rules.  She's not to be blamed, because she might
have some bad experience before.

Have you tried Agencies .. they will do work verification or TER verification and it
works.  I tried Bpage and there are some ladies there that do not have stiff screening rules.
And they were fine.

I just recently became a provider again after a few years and It is the same situation for me.  I don't have any reviews to start but hoppyists dont want to see a provider that do not have reviews.  It's a catch 22.  Like you said, back in the day, it wasn't so difiicult.  I had to do a lot of research to learn the biz all over again.  Anyone remember when Xcitment magazine was very popular?  You know, before everything went internet.  I first started off advertising in that magazine until the reviews sites got so popular.  It was a good thing they did get so popular because I had so many calls just from my reviews that I no longer had to advertise anywhere.  I'm working for an agency call Jasmine's Fantasyland (jflescorts.com) which has been just fine and Im on eros.com but hoping to be more on the independant side.    

Hey, since me and BBBE are having trouble figuring out how to see people, maybe we should just see each other.  Hell, maybe then we can talk good about each other.  He on here and me to other providers.  A win win (lol)

So my question is, how does a good provider get back into "the loop"?  Any suggestions?

Thanks for the input.  I am probably moving on.  An old provider I saw who is still in the business was kind enough to give me a reference so I should be ok from now on.  I might try this provider again after I get a few more references.

Nadia, you look great.  I wish you're in S. Cal and not Atlanta.  I definitely would love to see you.  Get a tour over here and perhaps we can meet.  Let you said, then it will be a win win for us

As for suggestion.  Since you're working out of an agency, they should be able to recommend you to their regular clients.  You may have to take a hit on compensation on the first few newbie clients.  But after a couple of reviews.  You should be good to go.

Good luck on the biz and be safe