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I was a weekly regular for years until my business tanked. I really think your only choice is to
Counterpoint 2266 reads
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sit it out until your situation improves.  I've had to face the fact that I no longer make my old income and have completely curtailed my activities as a result.  This is no different than any other unpleasant decision you have to make when you no longer have the money to buy the things you used to be able to afford.  If you don't have the money, you don't shop at Nordstrom's- this is no different.

If she contacts you in the future and wonders why she hasn't seen you in a while, be honest with her.  Tell her that it has nothing to do with her and that you really miss seeing her, but you just have to live within your budget until things improve.  Don't ask for a discount or a freebie.  If she wants to see you at a reduced rate, she'll offer.  Otherwise, just work toward the day when your financial situation improves.

As others have said, by definition, it's about the money.  After all, the ladies are trying to make a living too.  But I faced a similar situation with a FBSM provider that I'd seen almost weekly for two years.  When I told her what had happened to me, she said she'd rather keep seeing me at a reduced rate than lose contact with me.  I appreciated her generosity and understanding, and tried to make it up to her when I was back on my feet.  

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Cynicalman4457 reads

I have been a bit blue of late. Personal business challenges have negatively affected my disposable income(who am I kidding INCOME period!)
  Over the past 6 months I have grown quite fond of a certain ATF and my visitation has been VERY regular. I havn't ever lost sight of the business aspect of this relationship but now I find myself wishing to see her this weekend(as usual)but not having the wherewithalls to do so with.
  As my alias implies I'm not a starry-eyed optimist. I understand all to well what drives this world and this hobby.
A couple of you out there know the man behind the alias, and how he wishes that...It's (NOT) all about the money.

  Cm

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VonRyan3172 reads

...and you take matters into your own hands.

"Personal business challenges have negatively affected my disposable income(who am I kidding INCOME period!)"

I'ts time to take up something plenty cheaper my friend. Have you considered tidlee winks? Sometimes there is nothing better
than "doing it" with your favorite hand...with just the right kind of grease and hand motion.

Sure,I'm being kind of cynical but there is a constructive message in there somewhere.

Good luck!

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LapDawg4117 reads

If you're asking if she's willing to give you a freebie, that's something that no one can answer but her.  You say that you understand what drives this world and hobby, and then you turn around and hope that it's not all about the money.  Until a lady says; "No, that's ok keep your money.", it is all about the money.  I'm sure I'll be looked upon as cold and cynical, but I've had great moments in this hobby and to me that's all they are; great moments that are over when my time is up.

Bottom line: If you can't pay, no play.  

You'll just have to go out and try to pick up women the old fashioned way.

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Phx693660 reads

Not sure these are good answers to the guy.  I've said it before I think "free pussy is always the most expensive pussy"  What knid of guy is going to go out , get a gal in bed that night (if you're real, real lucky and than she probably is only half what your ATF is if even that) and than not follow through with what is expected later.  That's what gives guys a bad rap with many women.  And how much are you going to spend on drinks, food etc. before you get some girl in bed?

I've been in your place and it sucks.  I have never ask for freebies, but I have hinted a couple of times about being short and maybe some short term credit would help and have never been refused.  Just try to pay up as soon as you can.  Most good businesses will extend a little credit to their best customers.

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singleton3016 reads


dude, this too shall pass. seriously, don't ever let go of your alias' "raison d'etre" (to keep the rest of us on course!)

it's ALL about the money, until she says it ain't (and even then it may actually be about something more sinister! :)

honestly, every guy on this board (with a pulse) knows what you're talking about. the sure fire cure is to take things "into your own hands" until greener pastures come along -- gotta love them GREEN pastures! ... LOL

although what i'm about to suggest is fraught with potential difficulties and danger (ones i wouldn't wish on my enemy), since you sound somewhat down and out, i'll give it to you anyway. one thing you can consider doing is to ask your ATF if she would like to just hang out, like for a drink or something [cough] ... and then gauge her mood by her response and follow-up accordingly

it seems to me that if you've "invested" so dearly in her future with your biweekly contributions to her 69(k) fund, then she could hold your hands a little through this economic downturn (this may be a wise investment on her part!)

my own $0.02  (and that's NOT about the money! :)





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Counterpoint2267 reads

sit it out until your situation improves.  I've had to face the fact that I no longer make my old income and have completely curtailed my activities as a result.  This is no different than any other unpleasant decision you have to make when you no longer have the money to buy the things you used to be able to afford.  If you don't have the money, you don't shop at Nordstrom's- this is no different.

If she contacts you in the future and wonders why she hasn't seen you in a while, be honest with her.  Tell her that it has nothing to do with her and that you really miss seeing her, but you just have to live within your budget until things improve.  Don't ask for a discount or a freebie.  If she wants to see you at a reduced rate, she'll offer.  Otherwise, just work toward the day when your financial situation improves.

As others have said, by definition, it's about the money.  After all, the ladies are trying to make a living too.  But I faced a similar situation with a FBSM provider that I'd seen almost weekly for two years.  When I told her what had happened to me, she said she'd rather keep seeing me at a reduced rate than lose contact with me.  I appreciated her generosity and understanding, and tried to make it up to her when I was back on my feet.  

-- Modified on 6/20/2003 2:57:58 PM

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Rick7772521 reads

Hopefully you have friends that are women.  These women we see are very special.  I love them.  But when you need to talk you need a real friend.  Also a good time to do research on lower costing providers or ones just starting.  Hopefully you are not in San Diego.  I hobby on a limted budget.  But it means I plan and I scrimp and I save for the great fun later.  So I see someone only once or twice a month.  You can be sure the memories last me till next time.  If not find someone who gives you those kinds of memories.  Good luck.

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