
It appears that some people approach a session with a provider with the intent of checking off a list of activities and / or seem to rely on a certain progression of events....
I am wondering whether this is more client driven or provider driven and in the latter case whether the review scoring system has anything to do with it.... whether it is a choreography that has mutually evolved in "the hobby" or is something deeper and more an intrinsic part of an enculturated or acculturated approach to sex in general for some or many... I have certainly seen cultural differences over the years both in and outside of "the hobby" that are fairly striking... and personally I can say that given my 'druthers, my "private" sexual pursuit differs little if at all from the compensated sort... My personal preferences is to do away with "the script" and would rather be doing what seems mutually enjoyable at the time.... (with full realization that a part of the content domain of being a provider is to sell the apparent enjoyability factor :p ) However, perhaps at least initially, as a function of introduction, the script is a comfort zone for either or both parties, a way of negotiating an unfamiliar "relationship" by clinging to the familiar - I have also experienced this from providers in different cultures (with differing scripts) as a subtle means of establishing a degree of control over the situation... when I sense that it is necessary for her to be comfortable I comply with it at least initially in order to assist in creating a comfort level... In some cultures, providing is more a form of entertainment in the larger sense, more of performance art, however there is always a degree to which the performance is more by way of introduction and I have often found that in these settings, there is actually more flexibility and leeway to explore once the "obligatories" have been satisfied... all of this rambling is really by way of a question for hobbyists and providers alike about the balance between feeling the need to receive or provide a checklist of services, the sense that value in the pay for play context has nor has not been received / provided depending on a "checklist", and the use of choreography at least to a degree, in 'session management'.... My answer and preference certainly may not be yours and I am not planning to sit in judgment of another's preferences or needs - just genuinely curious, as someone who is critically over educated and probably thinks too much on occasion, especially when aided by a few snifters of Macallan Gran Reserva on a lovely evening.... However I can say that all of my best experiences have involved deviating often substantially if not initially from the locally typical choreography...... to say hello
Your post makes me wonder at the first extra-terrestrial encounter (never mind the movies). How will the lucky guy/gal negotiate the initial steps of the first dance?
In my limited experience, the pay-for-play encounter is not too different from civvie life; the conventions must be respected initially and things happen only after a degree of trust is established.
What I enjoy is the transition moment and the suggested variations on the theme. Agree that spontaneity is best but it is not always practically achieved. One thing seems to be consistent: the lady always agrees to a suggestion for change, as long as it does not carry the possibility of "ending up on You Tube" (as an ATF once said).
at least a theme to them and its not the "typical" thing. In general, your observations ring true to me and I only offer up the following as my experience which more or less corresponds with yours.
On a first session - I generally let the lady do her thing - though certainly I make some basic desires/options known from her published menu. As you observed, it really does seem to be a comfort thing for the providers. I don't see how you can really set up anything very specific on a first session because there's no communication really practical prior to a first meeting. On subsequent sessions, I make requests usually via email and we settle on a theme and talk about some fairly specific things and discuss terms and conditions. I wouldn't say that it is scripted - but it seems to work better if I give some direction as to what I want. Does the provider improvise on the theme? - absolutely - and it's that improvisation that distinguishes good from great.
A session for me is actually as much entertainment as anything else. And the journey - not the destination - is the important thing for me. If I just wanted release - honestly, I can do that self service....
Civvy sex is very different for me - and from a performance standpoint - not nearly as good. In other ways - a lot better.
PS - you really ought to try the Mason jars with the Macallan ...
So far this year I have not been disappointed in allowing her to lead the session. Looking for the time of a repeat and some variation suggestions from me. I will see where that goes.
Read enough reviews here at TER and you can see pretty much a pattern of how things are likely to go down. She can change her outfit, pretend to be someone in roleplay, do a sexual position on the couch or countertop instead of the bed, use a new toy, but in the end you still have a guy wanting to get a nut, and a woman willing to help him with that for compensation. Then again, I may have misunderstood the OP.
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It is wonderful when a provider and client can be so spontaneous together that they end up totally unscripted and take off into a wonderful journey into erotic-orgasm land.
I have experienced some such journeys but they are a very slim minority of most sessions.
I hate to break it to you in such a mundane fashion but the age old advice of Hollywood directors is usually the best advice: "Stick to the script."
of "the script" - from the provider side I am convinced that it is a way of establishing a comfort level and with some for instance the Asian agencies, it is an enculturated performance.
What I have personally found is a balance - go with the script to a point and then throw it out - stick with it until comfortability and respect have been established and then take things in a different direction -
I have always found this to be rewarding, and have found that some providers are ready sooner to "deviate" :
You two gentlemen are very refined in your approach with Mr.Fish and his 76 reviews, and you Ketterman with your 137 (nice score by the way dude) reviews. You two look at it in all shades in the spectrum, where I only have a shade of grey to work with my limited experience here. I see that I indeed did misunderstand the OP. I humbly fold my hand on this one.
but they are rare.
Only those with the highest abilities can ad-lob successfully.
Let's face it, half the population is below average by definition. It's no shame, and we all need things to get us by.
Nothing messes up success like sucking, after all.
That's the best way to roll that I know. Below average or not. Wouldn't you agree?
and why I asked the question - but I guess it was a bit too high-brow or convoluted for most of the audience here :p
I do find this topic interesting because I have literally screwed my way around the world several times and enjoy the differences in culture and approach...
I don't think it is purely a matter of experience so much as it is of personal preference and people skills - the latter being my profession, even though I often choose to be un-diplomatic here on the boards :p
is well above mine, many times over I'm sure. That is why I clown around a lot and try not to take myself to seriously here. Just a small fish, I am, in a big sea with a lot of big tunas swimming around. HaHa.
The standard usually goes something like: meet at the door, long kiss, talk, move to the bed, BJ, DATY, variety of positions, BJ again, maybe DATY again, a little talk again, say goodbye. Reviews mention one to twenty pops.
The visits and the reviews that are most interesting are those that depart from the norm, but the norm seems to serve a purpose. The talk is to get both people comfortable. The BJ is to get the guy's motor running, the DATY to get the woman's going (or at least make the guy think it's running). The purpose of the various positions is obvious. The second BJ is either to give the guy what he really wants (BBJCIM), or if he's popped once to try to get him up for a second round.
If there aren't particular roleplays/boundaries that need to be discussed beforehand, nothing makes me more uncomfortable than a dude following some script in his head. In terms of GFE, it's weird and awkward to show up with an itinerary. Unless I'm in my submissive role, my pussy doesn't care for "meeting minutes."
I can understand your point of view on that and agree - what I'm thinking of in my post is more the unspoken "checklist" that seems to have evolved in the hobby based on the reviews I've seen anyway - you know, gotta make sure there's daty, bbbj, 69, and three or four positions... seems kind of contrived... a lot of my most memorable experiences have definitely not gone that way...
Oh god don't get me started on 69. That's one thing I can't stand, and go figure my only fake review says that I did it. Motherfucker.
and have on several occasions enjoyed simultaneous orgasms with lady of the day - however, I have also had women - provider or otherwise - opine that they preferred to be able to concentrate either way on the giving or receiving, which is just fine with me -
I love it when she sits on my face and takes control, takes her pleasure from me - though I did not once much appreciate taking a sizeable squirt up the nose :p -- as long as she is ready for me to take my pleasure as well.....
Honestly I don't want a provider to do something with me because it is on the "checklist" but which she honestly dislikes - of course if she does not like any of it that's a problem :p
a vigorous stream up the nostril - regardless of what and from whom - tends to be a choking hazard :p
Never really understood it...can't DATY properly without sticking my nose in her ass, and that has zero appeal for me. I much prefer taking turns; anything worth doing is worth doing right and merits one's undivided attention.
That right there is a big one for me. The "scripted" position crap.
I actually ask what the woman's most preferred position is. Believe it or not as I have aged I have discovered that I will get my pleasure no matter what. (unless it is a bad experience of course). I haven't seen any official rules but I, personally, think it is acceptable that the woman have a good time also.
I'm seeing these wonderful women so that I can share passion with someone I find interesting. If I just wanted to ejaculate I can video search CG, RCG, Mish... and then clean my monitor off.
I actually ask what the woman's most preferred position is. Believe it or not as I have aged I have discovered that I will get my pleasure no matter what. (unless it is a bad experience of course). I haven't seen any official rules but I, personally, think it is acceptable that the woman have a good time also.
I'm seeing these wonderful women so that I can share passion with someone I find interesting. If I just wanted to ejaculate I can video search CG, RCG, Mish... and then clean my monitor off.

My regular disliked it when I came in with an "agenda". She said that it took away from the spontaneity and kept me from enjoying each moment, because I was thinking about what was "supposed" to come next. She's probably right, and I don't do that anymore.
When I'm seeing a lady who offers something that I've not done before and that's why I'm there, I make sure that she knows about it up front so we work it into the session, but that's about as planned as I get anymore.
find asking at the beginning, face to face which is important to be able to communicate fully since most communication is non verbal. What they need to make them happy and what type of experience they are looking for. Unless you are doing role play scripts are an obstacle. If you have the important key activities that is what makes a good session. That way you know the important ones and you know the enjoyable but less of a need and you can play around with any or all of the activities. Sometimes you don't get around to the 'important activities' but that is okay if they had a great time and didn't get anal about the need to check the list off.
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