Hobbyists: If you're displeased with the appearance, hygiene and/or service of the provider, do you say something to her? If not, why? Or do you save it up and write a bad review?

Providers: Would you rather a client tell you ahead of time if they weren't happy? Or would you rather wait to hear about it in a review? Have you ever had an experience like this before where you thought everything went fine and were blindsided by a bad review?

My opinion is (especially after reading my last review): please don't be shy. I would much prefer people tell me ahead of time -or even AFTER the session if they weren't happy. Or shoot, if you can't work up the nerve when you're here, e-mail me when you get home and we could work something out. I personally would rather refund some of even ALL of the client's money on the spot rather than get a review like this again.

Strangely, slurs about the cleanliness of my home bother me more than ones about my appearance, lol.

MM

-- Modified on 4/10/2003 4:31:40 PM

when things go wrong & it's easy to lie & blame the provider....I should know....anyways, I, too, would gladly work something out (& have!)
before a bad review is posted & the chances of laughing about it later in bed are ruined!........some friendships are born from silly situations!

There could be a few reasons why we would stay if the appearance, hygiene, intoxication level, service, etc... of a provider was not to our liking:
1. Let's say she doesn't look like her photos but according to reviews everyone has said she is the BEST FRENCH EVER, so at first you're willing to overlook some slight like we've already mentioned because who knows the best head ever could really redeem a lot of things!

2. The arrangements aren't always easy to make. They're going to be much harder on the spot after you've asked someone to leave and probably made a donation for the inconvenience. And you gotta try to remember the phone numbers of some "back-ups" you had in mind if your first choice wasn't available. We'd all like to think it would happen like Risky Business "Joel let me give you the number of... she's what all the guys on the side of the lake want" but I doubt it would happen!!   And again if she's got a wiggle/finger/tongue flick that won't quit you figure you might as well see that wiggle.

Really we're talking about entertainment economics here. Not every patron is willing to walk out of a movie quietly if it isn't what they expected. They are more likely to suffer through to the bitter end, awaiting some elusive moment where it might get better and then they will tell everyone they know just how bad that film was and how excruciating each of the 127 minutes were as they waited for some redeeming moment.

3. We might not say anything because we figure the easiest way to get someone out the door is to just play along, be nice and say thank you. I would say this is more likely if the gal is hammered, abusive, stoned, mean, disgusting, smelly, whatever.

If we're visiting keep in mind its your world we're just lonely tourists and confrontation is the last thing on our minds!

Now I"M NOT SAYING ANY OF THE ABOVE ANSWERS APPLY TO YOU - I don't know you and haven't read your review but in the general sense I'm trying to explain several reasons why we wouldn't say anything during the meeting.

4.  Things look different in the cold light of day.  Maybe the guys will compare one experience to another before writing anything so that they have some base line of an acceptable date.  Hell my first time at this was a blind call from a phone book, she was not attractive, worked for an agency and jacked up the $$$ after she got in. Then I got a less than stellar peformance. After that experience they were all queens until a met my ATF who puts most others to shame. The week I met her I met a couple other girls and as you can imagine they didn't live up to my new standards!

So back to our capitalism lesson of the day:  if you get home and that TV is broken you can take it back for your refund. Now I haven't read every review on this site but I'm pretty sure no guy ever said, "that pussy was broken and I had to get my money back."  So the concept of a refund seems a little foreign. Maybe a discount on a second visit if the guy thought that whatever wasn't right could be overlooked or rectified. But Unless her jaw actually came unhinged I'd have a hard time saying I needed a refund!

Just my several cents worth.

Oh wait, if a guy needs a clean room for enjoyment why wouldn't he get outcall at a hotel and then he can avoid that problem?

after investing the time and effort of researching ads and/or reviews, selecting your date, going through screening process, and for some of us saving up enough money; one might sometimes follow through just so all that is not lost. part of the experience, at least for myself, is not only the variety of women, but not knowing exactly what the results of each date will be. it's the unexpected, maybe even more adventurous aspect for me.

advertisement descriptions, photos, and reviews are still only an indication of the overall experience, atmosphere, or service; and most times, as we all know, YMMV with each individual encounter. now why one would continue with a session they were truly uncomfortable with is beyond my understanding. maybe just to be considerate and polite I suppose, you hate to waste a provider's time, especially if she has accommodated your appointment during an already busy schedule. I am never in favor of, and completely disregard when reading, bad reviews for anything other than bait and switch, rip-offs or other frauds. after all, not everyone will hit it off immediately, and you can catch someone on a bad day. I am in agreement with you MistressM, a polite no thanks, discount on second chance,even refund, or other resolve is better than poor reviews.  

experience has taught me never to go into a first meeting, and expect every desire or fantasy to be fulfilled. I have been really surprised at some of the women that impressed me the most. a great pillowtalk conversation, cuddletime, or simply making me laugh   can occasionally make up for an average or less than stellar performance. as always, communication, knowing what each other expects from the other ahead of time may help avoiding this in the future. then again you just can't please everyone.

not sure this answers your question exactly, but just some thoughts, best regards, mr.man

On Staying:
I can think of times when I've stayed despite having a bad time.  I can't add much more to the movie analogy by scampr.  The only explanation I'd generally offer is usually I've invested a lot into a session (research, expectations, etc....  As mr.man pointed out) and I will stay through it all to try and figure out if the problem is with me or something else.

On Constructive Criticism:
I think you are a rare individual who could take constructive criticism right after a session.  I like the idea of a follow up email, or letting a hobbiest know that's an option.  I know in my case if the review is positive I'll send it before hand and talk about what I thought about something that was not consistent with the rest of the session.  Now that I think about it, most of the reviews of poor sessions were with women who wouldn't have computer access. humm....

I'd like to think I'll practice communicating anything in any situation, but I'd find it really really difficult to offer criticism (constructive or otherwise) during/after a session.

From the other side of the fence:
Remember that reviews are written by guys.  I have to say that I have had more sessions that did not live up to reviews than vis a vis.  Women become popular for whatever reason and notes about cleanliness of the environment, attitude, even service and/or physical attributes don't get mentioned.  I am stunned by how many TER reviews describe a woman as a hardbody with a 24 inch waist and when I meet her, her waist is larger than my grapple -- she usually has big breasts or offers outstanding service.  But the guys I've followed up with on some of these want to believe women are telling the truth if the guys have a good review experience invested in her.  Eh.

I agree with Pleuvoir, My personal opinion is that some people are weak individuals...and don't want to hurt anyones feelings to the face, or they are just cowards.. I do not ever have to worry about a client being displeased with my appearance, hygiene or service, But I did get one review that still got me puzzle and blindsided. Ref: VIEW  May 2002  frenchkiss 6 - Nice 7 - Hot Time. My feeling still hurt, even though I laughed everytime I read the review. (all because I didn't swallow). I would rather a client tell me ahead of time if they weren't happy?

If I do not advertise or confirm what your expectation are do not expect something I do not advertise and write a bad review about my service when you know you had a great time.


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MistressM.  What I would do in case of lack of hygine, or other problems, and I belive most would do the same, is we will go through with it, but we will never come back.

An overwhelmingly number of people, equate criticism with insult.  So, unless dealing with a subordinate, or a child, and even that in most diplomatic way, criticism is not a good thing.



-- Modified on 4/11/2003 2:04:36 AM

thinking back...is that he wanted things that weren't on the menu.

As I said the slurs about my housekeeping bother me most. My goodness, my home certainly doesn't smell like rotten eggs and if my massage table with padding looks a bit worn it's because I WASH it and wipe it down every time I have a session.

Ah well, I have four pages of nice reviews so I guess one bad one adds some balance. But I meant it when I said I would prefer to refund his money. I wish more men would speak up if they weren't happy.

MM

I think Stranger-in-the-night is correct.  In addition I believe that most men feel that if they have already given money to the lady that their chances of getting any of it back are slim and none regardless of the reason.  So they might as well get something for their money even if it is not very good.  

Also my own experience has been that if a lady's performance during the first meeting was poor it is not worthwhile to schedule a second appointment.  Even if she promised to do better the next time it never seemed to improve enough to make the visit worthwhile.  It was always a case of throwing good money after bad.  I am sure that somebody else may have had second experiences where the lady improved her hygiene, demeanor, etc and they felt it was worthwhile to schedule a second appointment.

-- Modified on 4/12/2003 3:32:21 AM

I would have to say its a poor workman who blames his "tools" or the "toolbox"! (EOM)