responding back saying I appreciate that the booker provided the updated information, particularly related to changes in the cancellation policy, for my review BEFORE confirming any appointment. Based on the new policy I do not agree with the terms and request for an appointment has been retracted.
You can probably word that a lot better -- John L has reasonable approach by invoking grandfathering for existing clients.
Of course if you really enjoy seeing her and sure about being able to make the appointment (for me the probabilities of having to cancel are VERY low and I've never needed to yet unless it was a joint decision with the booker/provider at the time and not me saying I cannot make it) just keep the appointment and then decide if future appointments make sense to you.
I understand that it messes up providers when guys cancel on them, especially at the last minute. That costs them money and they could have had a session with someone else who go would have shown up.
Most of them have policies that if you cancel without a 24 or 48-hour notice you are still responsible for the full amount of you will be black-listed.
I completely understand and respect that.
However I recently booked a session with a touring provider I have been with twice before.
Her assistant sent a text to confirm and sent me another text stating “Please review her website for her updated fee and cancellation policy,” with a link to it.
I did review it. She increased her rate by $150 (inflation)! And in the cancellation policy, she has the standard “If you cancel within 24 hours you are still responsible for the full amount, if you cancel within 48 hours you are responsible for 50 % of the amount …”
But then I saw this information, which is completely new: “Cancelling anytime prior to the 24-48 hour window will result in a 25 % fee.”
I booked with her last Friday and she’s not coming to my city until next Thursday, so I booked 13 days ahead of time, but with her new policy, if I cancel even 7-10 days ahead of time I will be being required to pay 25 % of the amount.
I hardly ever cancel sessions with providers but when I do I always give them over a 48-hour notification and have never been charged a fee or black-listed for canceling.
Maybe some providers have always done this but I know this one in particular hasn’t.
maybe review a provider's website for those things (rates, cancellation policy, etc) PRIOR to booking a date so you can avoid complaining about it on here afterwards.
ALWAYS check those things no matter how many times you've seen the same provider because things change as you are finding out the hard way.
And your observation is just a little off. According to the cancellation policy you described, if you cancelled 5 minutes after the provider confirmed the date, you owe them 25% of fee.
Yes even 5 minutes after booking, you would be charged the fee.
I have no intention of canceling. I have seen this provider twice. She’s super hot and I have a great time with her.
It just seems extremely strict to me that even 5 minutes after you book, if something crazy happens and you need to cancel, you have to pay 25 percent.
provider is no longer for you. And that makes sense. For some of us, this would be a complete mood killer. There is a thin line between the business end of hobbying and trying to establish rapport for a very personal activity. I, myself am heavy into establishing rapport and this provider is way TOO "business-like" for me.
Holy sh!!!, she's my ATF's doppelganger!
And to your OP, just be glad that she doesn't have GPS yet!
Personally, if I was going to see her a 4th time, I might casually ask her "that no grace period cancellation policy really doesn't apply to me, does it?"
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sounds a bit outrageous to me.
I have never cancelled and would only cancel if there was an emergency or if I was sick.
responding back saying I appreciate that the booker provided the updated information, particularly related to changes in the cancellation policy, for my review BEFORE confirming any appointment. Based on the new policy I do not agree with the terms and request for an appointment has been retracted.
You can probably word that a lot better -- John L has reasonable approach by invoking grandfathering for existing clients.
Of course if you really enjoy seeing her and sure about being able to make the appointment (for me the probabilities of having to cancel are VERY low and I've never needed to yet unless it was a joint decision with the booker/provider at the time and not me saying I cannot make it) just keep the appointment and then decide if future appointments make sense to you.
becomes ludicrous.
This is precisely the type of thing that will steer me away from a woman (or any business that tries it), regardless of their rep, expertise or my own desire to engage with them.
The terms simply do not comport with reality as I see it. Cancellations are an inevitable part of life; and when sufficient notice is given, they must not be punished. I can't even imagine making a deal that forfeits my money no matter how far in advance or for whatever reason.
Short take: There are plenty of options; choose one.
100% agree with the eastside70. Don't book the providers with deposits. Your fault for indulging.
about cancellation problems, the ones that seem to be the problem are married guys. They book a session when their wife says she is going somewhere for the day, and they the wife cancels at the last minute, so the married monger must cancel too. For them to maintain the secrecy of their double-life, there is no way around it. The solution to this from the provider's perspective is to only book same day appointments with guys who do this. If they can fit you in (no pun intended) at the last minute, fine, if not they should try again the next day they are free.
Other than this first scenario, I don't understand why guys who see providers are not more in charge of their own schedules. I usually book two to three days in advance, because my schedule is pretty firm by then. Over my 14 years in P4P, covering several thousand sessions, I have only cancelled last minute three times, once for a car accident when I was hit ON THE WAY to the session, and twice when one of my aging parents were transported to the hospital on short notice. Because cancellation is so out of character for me, none of the providers involved took offense at all and just let it go. No cancellation fee and no blowback.
some mongers are such idiots. Inconsiderate idiots at that. Why anyone would book a session based on where they think their spouse, SO, or even girlfriend/boyfriend will be at that time is beyond me.
I'll go ahead and call bullshit on that and bullshit on providers increasing rates due to "inflation". These providers agreements are becoming more of a pain in the ass than canceling a gym membership. Common sense to me says that when a provider is smoking hot, IMO she would have no trouble at all filling that spot if she's well known and touring, especially 7-10 days out. I'm not a booker or assistant, nor do I claim to be, but I'd be willing to wager even providers with the steepest of rates get plenty of calls for their services when touring specific areas, otherwise why would they tour those specific areas? Throughout my time playing I have never been one to book further than a week out, I've probably only done that once or twice, because I wanted to beat the rush and make sure I had a slot. Some will say it's because they are low volume, I call bs on that too, they tour to maximize profits. What I would guess is happening is that is an attempt to squeeze some addition money out of the time spent in that city.
So lets say Client #1 books, then has something come up and has to cancel a week out, the provider then quickly fills that slot with another client, gets paid her normal rate from Client #2 AND gets Client #1s 25%. I'll just throw out a magical number like 800 and whoever reading can imagine their own number and take it from there. That's 1K for that slotted hour should a client cancel outside of what has been the normal grace period of 24-48 hour window for canceling, yikes. I've never been one to make appointments and cancel, but with this direction the game is going, I'll just steer clear of those providers in general.
davincib1,I agree with you a 100 percent
The cancelation fees and policies become more and more draconic from the provider side. God forbid you end up in an emergency situation.
Yet when it comes to the providers, do they EVER pay any cancelation fee if she can't make an appointment? Lolno.
Fucking dumb double standards.
I have never had a cancellation policy where I would charge for a missed appointment. I realize things come up. I am on tour in Boston and I have had six cancellations one person cancelled on me twice in the same week. Another cancelled at 6pm the night before and one client did not confirm until 10:30pm the night before and i had made other arrangements and he was upset.
I was able to fill 4 hours of the 8 hours of appointments.
I would ask don't book if you are not sure you can make it.
I am seriously considering starting to charge for missed appointments
Adeline Dare
Adeline Dare, I find it hard to believe anyone would cancel on you, I have read some of your reviews, plus I love your look, from what I can see you are gorgeous, to bad I don’t get out east, I would never cancel on you!!
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