I know I am biased, and I think this will generate discussion, but I wanted to list some things that are important factors to me when selecting a provider.
1. Not a fan of implants. Most look great, and they do turn an eye. But they feel fake and hard, and despite the number of women who tell me that you cant tell, I can. I prefer natural, even small breasts or no breast with just nipples are very sexy. Girls, if you are considering...in my book DO NOT.
2. Body art. I think that tatoo's or piercing makes someone seem more dirty and low class. It also seems more 'whore-like' as opposed to the more clean and pure look without.
3. Smokers. Ugh. It stinks, its on your breath, clothes, sheets. You dont smell it cuz your used to it, but still...ugh.
4. Photos. I think tasteful photo's are necessary. Too much, like a girl spread eagled is too whorish for me...like she's had the whole football team, and now its my turn, yet too little is bad too. I have seen a great looking girls face, and pics of breast are all cover..come to find out when I have a session that her breasts are 'deflated' from whatever. If I dont see breasts, I assume there is a reason.
My advice to ladies who are just starting out and who ask me for advice has always been the same: Be yourself, and don't let anyone talk you into doing anything you're not comfortable with or that doesn't feel right for you. You can't be everything to everyone, so do what feels right to you, and you will find your niche.
Your whole post is tips for ladies who want YOU as a client.
A lady needs to know and to be herself. If implants and body art are important to her, it will not hurt her business. There are plenty of gentlemen who are fond of both and/or who make their decisions on who to see for other reasons. Same with your thoughts on photos. A lady can present herself however she is comfortable to draw the clientel she is looking for, she does not have to cater to you and your aesthetic.
I agree with the smoking. If a lady is unable to quit she should take great pains to wear clean clothing, always have fresh linens, brush and floss and use mints or mouthwash.
Much more helpful tips for girls starting out would be things such as studying her market, having a professonal easy to navigate website, networking with other ladies to learn about safety and screening, etc., etc.
How about saving the tips for ladies for the ladies who can actually contribute more than your personal wish list?!?
Pardon my tone. I can't count the number of times in just days that gents on the boards I read have "helpfully" told ladies what they "should" or "shouldn't" do in their business.
Let a lady run her OWN business.
Vote with your wallet and leave it at that.
Well stated Sola. You and Tori of ATL are two of my favorite reads. You two help keep us guys mentally straight.
I was going to reply, but found I didn't need to after reading your post. Well done.
And are inconsistent. In #1 you do not like implants, and prefer natural and even flat breasts. But in #4, you do not like 'deflated' breasts. Well which is it? Natural, or perfect?
As to my opinions, I have seen some implants that were quite well done, and added to what was already naturally there.
Smoking sucks. It stinks, and no matter how much mouthwash you use, it still stinks. Everything you have reeks of the smell. You are correct that most women do not smell it.
As to photos, I am looking for a general image of the body type of the woman. Whether she is skinny, larger, or voluptuous, or BBW. I can fully understand the wanting to not "display all her assets" with nude pictures, but at least some tastefully done pictures to get an idea of body size is important. Men are visual.
But the bottom line is what Laurel said which is "do whatever you want", because there are men for every type of woman. Even those who smoke.
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I would not want you telling me how to package my product in the business I own, especially if I am already succeeding with my own ideas.
You laundry list should be beside your keyboard as you surf and page-up and page-down through the profiles and websites. That way you find the one you would be most happy with. Providing tips to business people (which is what they are) is a waste of time, unless they are asking for your advice.
I have had many different types of providers. Being honest, ugly, fat, young, old, fetish, and beautiful. I have had some awesome sessions with girls that are not "10" s, and crappy sessions with beautiful girls. My point is, that there is room for many different types, but it helps everyone all around if you are honest with the photo's and reviews.
Yeah, alot of guys like implants. They like the looks, not sure if they like the feel. And, I think most women will regret it as they get older. Sure they'll make more money, and attract attention, but its an implant.
Authenticity is important for me.
You assume, by your "tips" that the things you don't like were done for the sole purpose of attracting men (clients) and specifically you.
This may come as a huge shock to some men...and I can't blame them for not knowing it because in a lot of ways they were taught the exact opposite...
Women do not use as their sole impetus for doing something the thought of whether or not it will attract a man, men, or money...and that goes for women in this business as well.
Women don't go to tattoo parlors with the thought "will a client be more inclined to see me if I get this tattoo I want?", nor do they all go to Drs to get any type of cosmetic surgery with their sole purpose being to get more money or will the clients like how it looks enought to make up for how he thinks it feels or the like.
Woman can and do, do things for themselves, because they want to, because they will feel better about themselves, or because it is something they like or desire to have.
This is not your most normal business, and ladies generally don't get into it right after college and stick with it until they are 65...they usually don't spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week with their clients...so they have a lot of time away from business...and with that comes doing things with the impetus being something other than business or attracting clients or not...it gives them a lot of time to do things because they want to, and more time for anything they choose to do to effect their personal lives far more than their professional lives.
Woman can and will do things just for themselves...and that you don't like or think other guys won't like it or anything else, won't sway that decision..because, you the other guys, and other things weren't why the decision was made.
I assume you don't do everything you do with the sole purpose being either attracting women or your business? I assume once in awhile you do things because you want to...and if it works that way for you, why would you assume elsewise for ladies in this business?
As for you thinking most women will regret implants as they get older...is that from your personal experience? Did you find you regretted yours? If not, if you don't have implants...maybe you aren't in the best position to tell women about things they do that you never have, and never will, and won't ever even have to consider...just a thought.
Some kinda chick??? By the way, I saw the picture of you with the guitar. That was great.
those two pesky "X" Chromosomes, the vagina and the breats...
Thanks for the compliment on the picture...I was cool at 16....sad what 20 years can do to ya.
why not help the community and write a review or two? Surely you must have some good memories of your experiences.
regarding natural boobs (regardless of size), tattoos and body piercings, there are probably just as many guys who prefer otherwise. To each his own and I still like what a stripper told me once when she showed off her implants and I told her I preferred natural boobs -- "I didn't get them for you." LOL
Girls, you can't be everything to everybidy, so don't try.
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Kissing a smoker is akin to licking an ashtray.
I have seen many an ashtray in the course of my life, and none of 'em have lips or tongues, they aren't moist or plyable, they are room temperature, they can pucker, tease, lick, bite, or suck...hell if I could find an ashtray that could kiss like a woman, smoker or not I could have a lot more fun on nights home a lone...do you happen to know what inanimate object is like DATYing a smoker...'cause if you could let me in on that...I might never need to leave my house.