But by dressing up as a schoolgirl or whatever, you are accepting and condoning the fact that your sexual partner is attracted to schoolgirls, right?  Trust me, when men do something in a sexual context, it is never "just for fun."  If a guy wanted you to do something "just for fun," he would ask you to dress up as a circus clown.  But if he asks you to dress up as a schoolgirl, it's because he's trying to heighten his own arousal through fantasy-play.  Which means, he fantasizes about schoolgirls.

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for me there's a difference between a "father-daughter" fantasy roll play and a school girl coach/teacher...neither are for me but the former creeps me out...sorry, I know it's all just fantasy but I don't want to go there.

very good questions Nitescape, i've wondered and theorized about many of the same things myself.

there are gaping contradictions in western society regarding sex and age. in louisiana a 13 or 14 yr old girl can marry a 30 yr old man with the consent of her parents, but in new york they'll lock up a 19 yr old kid for having sex with his 16 yr old girlfriend. everything in our culture equates youth with sexiness...the cosmetic companies promise to erase those fine lines and wrinkles, plastic surgeons promise to lift breasts to the heavens and make your skin drum tight. yet the segment of society which has these features naturally (typically those under 18) are discouraged from being sexually active with anyone, much less with anyone significantly older. and don't even get me started on the irony of the law believing a 15 yr old is unable to consent to sex, yet if that same 15 yr old commits murder they will be tried as an adult and serve 25 to life.

the fact is that western society is grossly confused and frankly bass-ackwards in this area. laws and social mores should be more in line with human biology, imo.

think back to a time when this was actually the case...not so very long ago really, say when my grandparents were growing up. by age 12 my grandmother was raising pigs and chickens (not to mention slaughtering and cooking them), tilling fields, cleaning a house from top to bottom...which unlike the light dusting, vacuuming, running of the dishwasher and washing machine of today instead included getting on her hands and knees and scrubbing wooden floors with vinegar, homemade soap and water pumped from the well then boiled over a wood-burning stove, handwashing clothes wrung over a board in a metal basin outdoors, mending and sewing her own clothing, etc. and these were simply everyday chores. by 15 she was married (to my 21 yr old grandpa) and helping him clear the land for their own farm and would soon be pregnant with the first of many children.

now imagine the typical american 12 yr old of today...spoiled rotten with video games, a new wardrobe for every season, cell phones, etc...and in most cases no chores or responsibilities beyond washing their own bums and keeping their dirty underwear off the floor. imagine your typical 15 yr old...physically they've reached full sexual development, but because our society infantalizes young people to the point of total incompetency until age 21, they truly can't cope well with all the emotional ramifications of sex and any other adult issue. this has nothing to do with their numerical age, and everything to do with the failings of our current society. can you tell i've thought about this a bit? lol

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The Reality is that it sells...the men buy into it...ask the MEN why it turns them on?

What is it about young girls...something they can't have..something they miss....I think us ladies try to understand and support the needs of you fellas...but we have no control over your unsatiable minds and cocks...You have it all...You DICKtate!!

It's important I first point out that society at large does not accept pornography very much more than sex beneath age of consent. I realize that porn is getting some acceptance now, but it's still disdained enough.

The acceptance of sex appears to be turning more and more on whether its consensual. That's definitely the plurality opinion on this board (the so called "elite" opinion you which you refer). The notion is similar to a "contract." A cornerstone of consensual sex is age of consent. Age of majority is in it somewhere, but statutory and case law is an incredible mess right now. I think it will get more orderly when there's more tolerance of sex, but being in flux about it, of course there are plenty of "mixed messages."

What you said about fantasy effecting reality. That has been argued a lot about many other things. About violent video games, about violence in movies, and yes, apparently about sex, too.  Whether the messages are mixed or not, what would the alternative be?  Can you think of another one besides the Orwellian theory of "thought-crime?"  

The other thing is, as tempting as it might be, you shouldn't take individual choice out of the matter.  For me, I've looked at pornography for over 30 years.  The only thing it has added to my sexual repertoire is Russian and Greek. If the hobby is the question, I could never see why prostitution, per se, was wrong.  Even as a grade-schooler. Mary Magdalen's story was really incomprehensible to me.

For individual choice, if I watch porn and the woman looks too young, I turn it off. The only "teenage" girls I have fantasies about are the ones who were teenagers when I was that age.

However, I consider that attraction to teenage women is just something in males. I don't consider it to be on the same scale of wrong as child molestation-- or teenage prostitution. It still turns on the theory of consent (and also that the guy serving time is probably better than making him marry the girl, or worse, having the parents shoot him). I'm shocked at the number of hebephiles (guys turned on by teenage girls) and pedophiles being uncovered, but the difference now is probably that we're catching the guys.

However, when you bring up teachers having sex with their students I have to say I think the difference is people are more alert to it. When I was growing up, it was going on. I know a teacher who married one of his students a year after she graduated.  People probably just weren't looking for it. She just happened to be the most spectacular looking girl in the school    

Last point about fantasy effecting reality, I'm not a psychologist, but IMHO, fantasy probably has a paradoxical role in human behavior. I think there are perhaps two different kinds of fantasies: deliberate and compulsive. Sometimes you have deliberate fantasies which you can have while knowing that you won't commit the acts. It's done willfully to more or less to act them out harmlessly.

The compulsive ones, though, come to you whether you want them or not and guide behavior and make you compulsively watch things incite that replay the fantasy. Suicide ideation is one type of compulsive fantasy, and in the same way, it can soon drive behavior. Those are the ones that need to be detected.    

So, as with any other part of our media, for some people, yes, porn can cascade into behavior. Again, people have to be alert to the effects in themselves, use their wills, get help if necessary and watch for these types of things in other people.

And we are all quite aware that escorting is against the law. What does that have to do with the topic that you have raised here? Nothing. You have been doing a fine job of accusing others of clutching at straws while you insist on falling back on reminding us all of something we know full well.
There is a huge difference with what goes on between two consenting adults, yes, legal or not, and what you are talking about here.  There is a huge difference between sharing a fantasy, any fantasy, with another consenting adult and wondering if a teenager who wears makeup is trying to seduce you. She isn't. If it turns you on try looking in that mirror that you keep talking about.

I have a mirror in just about every room in my house and I can look at my reflection in any of them with no regrets.