..A sucker is born every minute...

I am sure such a deal will definitely appeal to one of those suckers. For me..Sorry. If I am spending a dime on a lady, its going to be towards her donation to get sucked and fucked.

M & Gs are there just to achieve what you describe, and I have used them successfully in the past to pre-screen the ladies.

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Though they had dinners with me .
 I hope they don't get any ideas  .  
Now I'm asking myself , would I ask a civvy on a date if she charged a few hundred , plus free dinner and show with no guarantees  .  Nope
 As for providers ,  her reviews usually tell me if we will click or not .    

Posted By: VeronicaSweets

In rethinking the kinds of dates I offer, I started wondering about strictly platonic dates. Does anyone ever wish ladies offered a strictly platonic date? Ya know, like dinner and sight seeing, but without the private time. There are a lot of ladies who will offer such a thing when queried, but the rates and time blocks aren't readily available on their sites and then there's the awkward money negotiation which is never fun. Also, it would give a chance to meet a lady and find out if you click with out the complete financial commitment or hurt feelings if there isn't chemistry.

To be clear, I'm not talking about using this as a form of screening for myself. More like the opposite. A gent can book a strictly platonic date (for a nominal donation) and see if he clicks with the lady. If so, another date can be made for a more traditional companion evening in the future. Call me crazy, but the build up sounds hott to me

Just wondering if anyone else is intrigued by this concept?

Curiously Yours,

Veronica Sweets

With me sometimes it's not about sex.So I would like just go out and do something,I have myATF don't see anyone but her .I would not mind paying her.This only way I would do platonic date

and at the risk of my buddies Curly, CCPA, Beenstrokin and some others calling me mangina, I am 'slightly' intigued by an offering like that. However for me, it would have to be at a substantial discount and it would have to include at least a little private time, but it doesn't have to include fking. I am ok with no fking, but I would desire the dinner/sightseeing conversation time, in addition to private time that would at a minimum include dfk, cuddling, massage, and daty, and maybe a mutual bath/shower. I have done overnights with a lady whose rates were 400/hr and 1000/overnight, and I have done dinner dates with ladies who had rate structures like 400/1 hour, 800/4 hour dinner date. But I won't do an extended date with a lady who has a rate like 400/1hour, 4000/10 hours. I do enjoy the non sex time, and hanging out and getting to know the lady and having a "connection" (sorry CCPA) and I don't mind paying a lady for "time and companionship" but I won't pay full rates for such activities.


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platonic

i am sure those arrangements do exist..but i doubt if any of these horndogs on TER are looking for platonic love..

In order to meet the mangina requirements.

... a shot and see how it goes.

Post it on your website and other advertising avenues and see how many takers you get.

I'd recommend that you give it a 6 month trial run. If it doesn't work out, you really have not lost anything in terms of investing a lot of your time or money.

However, if you do succeed, that will help increase your revenue and clientele base.

Serpius

Posted By: VeronicaSweets

In rethinking the kinds of dates I offer, I started wondering about strictly platonic dates. Does anyone ever wish ladies offered a strictly platonic date? Ya know, like dinner and sight seeing, but without the private time. There are a lot of ladies who will offer such a thing when queried, but the rates and time blocks aren't readily available on their sites and then there's the awkward money negotiation which is never fun. Also, it would give a chance to meet a lady and find out if you click with out the complete financial commitment or hurt feelings if there isn't chemistry.

To be clear, I'm not talking about using this as a form of screening for myself. More like the opposite. A gent can book a strictly platonic date (for a nominal donation) and see if he clicks with the lady. If so, another date can be made for a more traditional companion evening in the future. Call me crazy, but the build up sounds hott to me

Just wondering if anyone else is intrigued by this concept?

Curiously Yours,

Veronica Sweets

but without the chase scene.  Something would just be missing.

I do, however, enjoy long dates with gals with a lot of social interaction, talk, dining, etc.  But little mrfisher doesn't want to be left out of it totally.

By the way, Woody Allen wrote a short story just about this very thing.  It's a hoot too:

Well...I'll consider waiving my upfront retainer if you want

But only because some of our mutual friends tell me that you really are a sweetheart  

And please keep the business chat to a minimum...I don't want to feel like you're just going out with me to pick my brain!

The only gal that I recall advertising this type of date was Lauren Summerhill.  But she's dropped that from her site now.  

I wouldn't have an interest in that type of date...but I do quite often spend hours out and about with the gals.  But that's just me    And I'm not interested in paying a gal to go out and about...unless she wants to spend it with me OTC.  If not...I've got a large network of pals to spend my time with.

And to use that as a mini screening...again not interested.  I'll be happy to PM/email/call my buds who have seen her/you.  That will tell me all I need to know if I have any further interest.

But some guys may indeed have a need or interest.  And from what the gals tell me...it's not all that uncommon.

And OK...you're crazy.  But you asked me to call you that.  Otherwise the word is you're smart, funny, hot and not bad BCD either  LOL

Posted By: VeronicaSweets

In rethinking the kinds of dates I offer, I started wondering about strictly platonic dates. Does anyone ever wish ladies offered a strictly platonic date? Ya know, like dinner and sight seeing, but without the private time. There are a lot of ladies who will offer such a thing when queried, but the rates and time blocks aren't readily available on their sites and then there's the awkward money negotiation which is never fun. Also, it would give a chance to meet a lady and find out if you click with out the complete financial commitment or hurt feelings if there isn't chemistry.

To be clear, I'm not talking about using this as a form of screening for myself. More like the opposite. A gent can book a strictly platonic date (for a nominal donation) and see if he clicks with the lady. If so, another date can be made for a more traditional companion evening in the future. Call me crazy, but the build up sounds hott to me

Just wondering if anyone else is intrigued by this concept?

Curiously Yours,

Veronica Sweets

I'm guessing there's more of a need for this type of date over there. BTW, any chance of you ever returning to the Grand Canyon State?

Veronica, i'm surprised that you're not familiar with the 'sugar bowl'.   The SD/SB scene almost always begins with a platonic first date.  And a few Sugar Babes I've met have mentioned strictly platonic arrangements.  My standard reply:  "I'm not that guy, but I hope you find him."   SBs usually laugh at that, then start backpedaling furiously so I don't lose interest.  It's a chess match & my Knight just took her Queen.  Most SBs are quite willing to fuck for money.  But they're always looking for a Queen-takes-Pawn platonic arrangement.  

There are plenty of SD/SB websites out there, and a few providers on this board are already there.  Good luck.  --z

With all do respect I have lady friends whom I don't

Hi Veronica,

have to pay for platonic times!! When I meet a lady on TER It's for fun times behind closed doors!! The last few times I've had a two hour session w/ a lady! I bring dessert & we talk & laugh for about forty-five minutes, then the  really fun stuff begins!! Good luck w/your endeavor!!

Posted By: VeronicaSweets

In rethinking the kinds of dates I offer, I started wondering about strictly platonic dates. Does anyone ever wish ladies offered a strictly platonic date? Ya know, like dinner and sight seeing, but without the private time. There are a lot of ladies who will offer such a thing when queried, but the rates and time blocks aren't readily available on their sites and then there's the awkward money negotiation which is never fun. Also, it would give a chance to meet a lady and find out if you click with out the complete financial commitment or hurt feelings if there isn't chemistry.

To be clear, I'm not talking about using this as a form of screening for myself. More like the opposite. A gent can book a strictly platonic date (for a nominal donation) and see if he clicks with the lady. If so, another date can be made for a more traditional companion evening in the future. Call me crazy, but the build up sounds hott to me

Just wondering if anyone else is intrigued by this concept?

Curiously Yours,

Veronica Sweets

But they are off the clock. I can't imagine spending money on an escort for any other reason than to have sex. I guess there are guys out there who would...

The idea isn't bad.  The question is...what do you expect to get as compensation?

If the investment is minimal and there is the option of being able to extend the date into some intimate time, then I think for the right price guys would take that option.  Two hours over dinner and seeing if there is a connection...that definitely could work with the right arrangement.

What you're describing is escorting in its simplest form. I have no idea if TER guys would hire an escort for a dinner date and not want FS at the end of the evening so maybe what you're thinking is the date starts out platonic at a nominal fee and if he desires to go further, then the full rate would apply? I also think you're opening yourself up to a lot of haggling over platonic time fees because most hobbyists don't put any value on a date without sex. If they wanted a civvie date, they could get it for free on a civvie dating site and maybe even get lucky at the end of the night to boot - still for free This isn't an SD/SB proposition either because he's paying for your time per date and/or per hour rather than a monthly fixed amount of support.

IMO, offer it on your site, see if you get any takers, and figure out if the haggling is worth the time and effort. There's nothing to lose in offering this and even if it doesn't work out in the long run, you'll probably end up with a few more regulars.

Makes sense .. if you have a guy very tired from work and want to cuddle more than a pillow after dinner.

Another female who hobbies with her male partner advised me to meet with providers for coffee to make sure there is a connection first.  She said they pay a fraction of the hourly rate.  

Might be a way to expand that part of your business.

I've seen a few providers who offer strictly platonic dates.
Shopping, food, business functions, etc.

I have yet to try it for the purpose of the build up.
Sounds like it could fun.

I had an ATF

who I thought really clicked. I suggested meeting for lunch and she said $1200. Which snapped me back to reality in a millisecond. Haven't seen her since. : )

Yes, it's called a meet and greet date. I offer one on my website for $100 for 30 minutes. It's just a short date, and many ladies offer them. If you want to do it, try it!

Posted By: VeronicaSweets

In rethinking the kinds of dates I offer, I started wondering about strictly platonic dates. Does anyone ever wish ladies offered a strictly platonic date? Ya know, like dinner and sight seeing, but without the private time. There are a lot of ladies who will offer such a thing when queried, but the rates and time blocks aren't readily available on their sites and then there's the awkward money negotiation which is never fun. Also, it would give a chance to meet a lady and find out if you click with out the complete financial commitment or hurt feelings if there isn't chemistry.

To be clear, I'm not talking about using this as a form of screening for myself. More like the opposite. A gent can book a strictly platonic date (for a nominal donation) and see if he clicks with the lady. If so, another date can be made for a more traditional companion evening in the future. Call me crazy, but the build up sounds hott to me

Just wondering if anyone else is intrigued by this concept?

Curiously Yours,

Veronica Sweets

not for money. Just because we liked hanging out together having a good time. Been to shows, concerts and what not in some cases, initiated by providers needing an escort to go to function, etc.

It is all about how you treat each other, real or fake. Most human beings like real and can smell a fake 1,000 miles away.

If you are looking to offer this as service, it may work with a few but not many. By some, I mean, those who cannot get up enough courage to talk to a pretty lady.

I definitely am in the camp of guys who like to get to know the ladies, become something that seems like friends, and enjoy spending time together. But I first pay to see a lady because I find her sexy and want to fuck her, to be blunt, not because I find her interesting as a person. Yes, I do choose ladies like you who I think will be interesting, offer something for the mind as well as body, but I cannot be sure that is true until we meet. So I start out by meeting sexy ladies for some private time, around which we get to know each other, sort of.

If I find a lady interesting, then I may desire to spend more time with her, interact in ways beyond the normal 1-2 hour private time. It has happened, though even when I think the lady and I share some interests, get along well, can find some mutual ground, that transition can be tricky.

BTW, Lauren and I had discussed a date along the lines of what you describe quite a while ago, and it might have happened if she had been local. But it turned out to be a logistical challenge to manage to be in the same place at the same time. These days, I would not choose to go that way, so I guess my approach has evolved.

The shorter answer is yes, there is some demand for it. But in order to make it happen, you probably need to engage in more lengthy, pre-date interaction to convince the gentleman that such a purely social meeting would offer more than eye candy on his arm while out on the town. At least that seemed to be how Lauren approached it. Is that worth the effort for you? Probably depends on how many of those guys then proceed to become regular clients.

zig

Yes, I realized I was opening up a can of worms on this one and I really appreciate all the candid responses  I've seen girls offer "coffee" dates to see if there is chemistry and I've heard that there are select gents who take them up on that option. And that's really what it's all about- offering more options for those who may want them. The 'normal' way of doing things is still available for those who prefer more traditional arrangements. However, I guess I should have stated up front that I am not the type of 'suck and fuck' companion some gents seek and my pricing structure already alludes to that. I seek encounters where we can connect in more than just the physical sense and there's no shortage of gents who seek out this type of encounter (at least not that I have found).

Most girls who offer these M&G dates are in the $$$ minimum range and it gives a gent a chance to meet for $$ instead to make sure $$$ is worth for the two of them. I agree with all those who said that they would prefer a traditional date at $$ rates over a platonic first date. It would make no sense to offer a platonic date when the traditional date isn't seen as financially taxing.

I'm going to keep thinking all of this over and truly appreciate the opinions of everyone on here!

Happy New Year,

Veronica Sweets

the only way I'd pay for time w/o FS is if it was a sort of travel companion arrangement.

the advantage there is we would "know the rules" which is not the same as meeting a civvie stranger for the same arrangement.