I've had a number of chats over the past few months with both boys and girls here. Seems like there is a huge bubble forming...both sides seem to agree on that.
It'll be interesting to see how this explodes...maybe a slow start but then accelerating to an all out price war. Maybe time to lock in those future prices ladies? Seems like the gals think that XXX is the "standard" now. But like any market the standards are set by consumers. And I suspect that those willing to pay nearly double for the same type of gal from 4 years ago is going to soon be a much smaller pool from which all the gals will be striving to hook. On another chord...any gals read up on the Chase Bank debacle? Only affecting porn stars at the moment...but let's see how that nonsense plays out. Who at Chase is now the morality police
But there's simply too many newcomers that have no clue until they've corroborated these increases as acceptable.
Seems however that is now beginning to sway.
Like I said it'll be interesting to watch how quickly prices tumble. It could be literally overnight in certain overpriced areas, while other areas remained a bit more stable.
I'll keep my eyes on NYC...that should be the first telltale sign. Vegas...well, you can't account for stupid unfortunately.
Posted By: JackDunphy
The gals saw enormous price increases over the last 5-10 years so that is now overdue for a correction.
While this method may not work for everyone it works for me.
60% of the time my offers are accepted and 40% of the time they are declined, that's why I could care less how much rates go up or go down doesn't affect me one bit.
Sure, there are girls here who charge $500 and up. But there are also a lot of high-quality women who charge $250-$400/hr and loads at $300. As for negotiating, I don't mind doing it in places like Costa Rica where that's the way it's done. But it's also legal there.
Based on what I've heard from guys who live in NYC, I had no idea you could find a quality provider there for 250-300hr, you live there so I will have to take your word for it.
I agree negotiating is fine in places like CR, and to add Vegas as well, even though it's not legal here I see nothing wrong with negotiating unless the guy is a newbie then I would advise against it.
Telling a woman that she is in the "dime a dozen" category and that you are only willing to pay half her posted rate is not going to be successful too often.
Almost everything in life is negotiable, not everything, but almost. It's all a matter of doing it with a bit of style. lol A lot of it is regional custom as well. In some places it is EXPECTED that you negotiate, paying full price is not a sign of generosity, it's a sign that you are too stupid to be respected, and where it comes to hookers rather than getting a better session you will end up getting the bums rush because she won't have any respect for you.
I don't do it all the time, but when I do it's in a respectful manner. But I understand Nick's stand on not negotiating, hey what works for some may not work for others.
but where I live there really is no reason to, unless it's for a extended session, or some kind of regular type arrangement.
I mean am I really going to try to get a lady who only charges $250 for an hour or so to reduce her rate for me. Some things are worth negotiating, other things are just being cheap. Now if a lady who caught my fancy was asking 700 hr, yes I would most likely attempt to negotiate "IF" I thought she was all that, but most of the time I simply move on. I have never noticed that a higher price got me anything more from a woman, except a sense of entitlement from her.
"hooker prices" have remained rather stable for the last several years in most of the south for that matter. I don't know if it's the plethora (go ahead and send me a bill) of lovely young ladies down here, or the guy's unwillingness to pay the inflated prices, but the average price here is barely $300 hr, and there many high quality ladies in the $250 range.
As well that would account for the plethora of hotties at prices consistent with reality.
I seem to recall you bitching about the NYC hookers and the rampant price inflation there? Frankly...same shit has happened in LA, ChiTown and Des Moines LOL
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Posted By: GaGambler
"hooker prices" have remained rather stable for the last several years in most of the south for that matter. I don't know if it's the plethora (go ahead and send me a bill) of lovely young ladies down here, or the guy's unwillingness to pay the inflated prices, but the average price here is barely $300 hr, and there many high quality ladies in the $250 range.
because the rates there don't affect me, even though I was there just a few days ago, I "brought my own" with me and the hooker rates were never an issue for me.
Speaking of Latin America countries, I am sure Nicky will agree that there is a move to increase prices by the "Jaco beach hookers union" but the increase is from $100 hr to $150, so I don't expect to be priced out of the market anytime soon. But a hooker making $150 hr in a country where the average income is less than a grand a month has got to be considered higher paid than a NYC lady charging $500.
was the push for $150 by the PJHU (Playa Jaco Hookers Union) a high-season effort or will prices drop back down during low season? As for prices in the northeast coming down, don't hold your breath. If they didn't come down after the financial crash, why would they come down now? The best I saw was girls offering "specials."
It didn't happen then, or at least not to any major degree, and I don't see it happening now either.
As for Jaco, now that we are firmly into the rainy season, lets see just how firm those prices really are.
I do find it laughable how hookers have whipped the men of this country into buying their bullshit that's it's "rude" to negotiate, and even more laughable that not only do the guys accept it, but go on record supporting it. No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us. Of course the good thing about it is no matter what an asshole I/we might be considered here, by Latin American standards we are considered "gentlemen" go figure. lol
I've had to ask AF to look through all of your post on all boards from inception to find that one where you were bitching about NYC rates.
If he fails I'll send Rod in to redo it.
Bringing your own toys isn't the same as buying the local toys. But definitely a smart move!
Posted By: GaGambler
because the rates there don't affect me, even though I was there just a few days ago, I "brought my own" with me and the hooker rates were never an issue for me.
Speaking of Latin America countries, I am sure Nicky will agree that there is a move to increase prices by the "Jaco beach hookers union" but the increase is from $100 hr to $150, so I don't expect to be priced out of the market anytime soon. But a hooker making $150 hr in a country where the average income is less than a grand a month has got to be considered higher paid than a NYC lady charging $500.
their accounts are being closed because, Chase says, their cash deposits indicate that they are high risk.
I'm wondering what this is going to mean for the food servers, bartenders, dog walkers, babysitters, food truck vendors, etc. (all the 'legit' cash businesses) of the world.
One of the girls that has had her Chase account closed was incorporated, taking credit cards, and generally doing all the things that many girls do to give the appearance of legitimacy, and yet they identified her business as high risk and cut her off.
It's a great time for Chase to develop morals. lol
shares of doughnut stores are already predicted lower on tomorrows open . not to mention ho ho s are almost a thing of the past .
Posted By: ChgoCPA
I've had a number of chats over the past few months with both boys and girls here. Seems like there is a huge bubble forming...both sides seem to agree on that.
It'll be interesting to see how this explodes...maybe a slow start but then accelerating to an all out price war.
Maybe time to lock in those future prices ladies? Seems like the gals think that XXX is the "standard" now. But like any market the standards are set by consumers. And I suspect that those willing to pay nearly double for the same type of gal from 4 years ago is going to soon be a much smaller pool from which all the gals will be striving to hook.
On another chord...any gals read up on the Chase Bank debacle? Only affecting porn stars at the moment...but let's see how that nonsense plays out. Who at Chase is now the morality police?
Real estate and stocks have been pumped up by low interest rates. This next "reset" will make 2008 look mild and with that escort pricing will dive. Plus most baby boomers are starting to get old and that means less income, health and desire to pay big $$$$$ for pussy. Too bad there isn't an ETF for trading on escort prices.
At least for some of us who don't offer the incall in our home, down the street from John A, B & C. I mean really. You should try it sometime, I bet it'd be a rude awakening for some of you to see what a few of us 'actually' make on the bottomline after it's all said and done, with the 'true' time involved to meet with gentlemen here. I guarantee you, you'd be simply amazed.
Until then...STFU . You are more than welcome to NOT pay our rates but don't go and bitch like a bunch of lil pussies that your hornier than hell and can't and have nowhere to get off. Right hand meet cock again...just like in highschool. And don't forget to stock up on some lube for pennies on the dollar. Now you're saving. Not sure what else to tell ya boys, but to enjoy!!!
"But like any market the standards are set by consumers." You sure about that CPA? Not unless all you boys go on strike at the same exact time. But, I would bank on my hourly, that ain't happenin' anytime soon. That would mean you'd all have to collectively get along...ALL of you. I'm not sure how realistic that is.
I'll leave my final thoughts to myself after my 'highschool' comment above lol........
your girls . um this is for the guys ? you girls are here to , um, well , > service us . so we want fit cheap girls , okay ? not hard , run to the incall instead of a cab that a fifty right there ? need more tips let me know .xoxo okay princess
Posted By: TaylorSteele
At least for some of us who don't offer the incall in our home, down the street from John A, B & C. I mean really. You should try it sometime, I bet it'd be a rude awakening for some of you to see what a few of us 'actually' make on the bottomline after it's all said and done, with the 'true' time involved to meet with gentlemen here. I guarantee you, you'd be simply amazed.
Until then...STFU . You are more than welcome to NOT pay our rates but don't go and bitch like a bunch of lil pussies that your hornier than hell and can't and have nowhere to get off. Right hand meet cock again...just like in highschool. And don't forget to stock up on some lube for pennies on the dollar. Now you're saving. Not sure what else to tell ya boys, but to enjoy!!!
"But like any market the standards are set by consumers." You sure about that CPA? Not unless all you boys go on strike at the same exact time. But, I would bank on my hourly, that ain't happenin' anytime soon. That would mean you'd all have to collectively get along...ALL of you. I'm not sure how realistic that is.
I'll leave my final thoughts to myself after my 'highschool' comment above lol........
how some / many take it to heart must have guilty conscience or something . I cant speak for cpa but will speak for my post .. I stand by the statement that being fit is a good thing . I never said skinny .. and yes when I see a lot of young girls who are sloppy time to perhaps do something about it besides dropping to ones knees ! and in ny coupon day often happens so time will tell the tale .
Posted By: cashorcredit
guys are just voicing their opinions.
she has ever right to charge 500,000 an hr if she wants there are guys out there that will pay it just for the bragging rights
...have to judge YOU by. You can bitch about fat women, but your writing is out of shape. Try hitting the gym (school) and actually learn to express yourself like an adult.
...have to judge YOU by. You can bitch about fat women, but your writing is out of shape. Try hitting the gym (school) and actually learn to express yourself like an adult.
I don't GIVE A SHIT ! not even a tiny bit , you know what you do ? don't read my post . simple , easy , your PROBLEM IS SOLVED .
have a day .
Posted By: Back_In_Black
don't like the way I write . guess what ?
Posted By: BigPapasan
...have to judge YOU by. You can bitch about fat women, but your writing is out of shape. Try hitting the gym (school) and actually learn to express yourself like an adult.
...but you don't like it when someone tells you you write like an eighth grade dropout. You can't even write well when you try! That's the sign of a poorly educated, low-class person.
no sign that quike frankly I don't give a shit . deal with it
Posted By: BigPapasan
...but you don't like it when someone tells you you write like an eighth grade dropout. You can't even write well when you try! That's the sign of a poorly educated, low-class person.
Most of you boys make a 'decent' dime so don't even play like you don't. Don't even try to yank my chain with that one. For those who negotiate, you're just being cheap bastards. That's all. Nothing bothers me more than a guy who attempts to negotiate 'after' he shares what he does for a living and I know the money is there. That is bullshit on a stick. I'm like really? See ya. Homey don't play that, not here. This business is NOT like other businesses and rates are not ALWAYS negotiable. Get it out of your big and lil heads. You cannot compare 'this' market to 'other' markets, you just can't.
Just don't be cheap, it's ugly and it's manless. I may not have a lot of money, but I'm the biggest tipper, the biggest give my right arm to the next person when I can. And you don't want to know what I'd do if I get to the day when I have 'disposable' income. It won't be to buy cock, that I can tell ya. So stop being so damn selfish already and pay the ladies what they want. They are providing you a service. Be grateful, be gentlemen and enjoy yourselves, then go home.
There I said my peace. Go about your Sunday and enjoy your cocks.
You think that because a guy has the coin that he shouldn't negotiate with you, he has every right to and you have every right to decline his offer.
Nothing to get upset or bent out of shape over, Millionaires and Billionaires negotiate all the time, and you're not entitled to their money just because you know they have it.
however that doesn't mean I should give it away and quite frankly it none of anyones business and has NO BEARING on proper costs for this or anything I purchase . and any normal person looks for a deal .
Posted By: TaylorSteele
Most of you boys make a 'decent' dime so don't even play like you don't. Don't even try to yank my chain with that one. For those who negotiate, you're just being cheap bastards. That's all. Nothing bothers me more than a guy who attempts to negotiate 'after' he shares what he does for a living and I know the money is there. That is bullshit on a stick. I'm like really? See ya. Homey don't play that, not here. This business is NOT like other businesses and rates are not ALWAYS negotiable. Get it out of your big and lil heads. You cannot compare 'this' market to 'other' markets, you just can't.
Just don't be cheap, it's ugly and it's manless. I may not have a lot of money, but I'm the biggest tipper, the biggest give my right arm to the next person when I can. And you don't want to know what I'd do if I get to the day when I have 'disposable' income. It won't be to buy cock, that I can tell ya. So stop being so damn selfish already and pay the ladies what they want. They are providing you a service. Be grateful, be gentlemen and enjoy yourselves, then go home.
There I said my peace. Go about your Sunday and enjoy your cocks.
That's what's the problem here. You all think pussy should be free and shouldn't be paying the rates that are being charged...well it's not for you to decide. I'm sorry. Get over it, join Match, leave the hobby or be content fucking your SO again. It's that simple.
and some really smart hot girls around here who know how this game is played and don't mind making some real good money for a night out with me and other guys .
check mate !
Posted By: TaylorSteele
That's what's the problem here. You all think pussy should be free and shouldn't be paying the rates that are being charged...well it's not for you to decide. I'm sorry. Get over it, join Match, leave the hobby or be content fucking your SO again. It's that simple.
I do ok, at least in my book I do. Just because I don't play by the rules according to 'everyone' else here doesn't mean a damn thing. You all just don't like it that's all. Sick thing is, you don't know anything about how I 'do' things here anyway, you're all 'speculating' as usual lol, that's what's so funny. Only the gentlemen I see regularly know the 'real' story. Enough said.
Now go get that free pussy, I'm not stoppin ya. I'm sure it comes a dime a dozen here and in every other world. Just doesn't pertain to me at all and never will.
and bullshit , you gave that pussy away . every girl has , its your weapon .
Posted By: TaylorSteele
I do ok, at least in my book I do. Just because I don't play by the rules according to 'everyone' else here doesn't mean a damn thing. You all just don't like it that's all. Sick thing is, you don't know anything about how I 'do' things here anyway, you're all 'speculating' as usual lol, that's what's so funny. Only the gentlemen I see regularly know the 'real' story. Enough said.
Now go get that free pussy, I'm not stoppin ya. I'm sure it comes a dime a dozen here and in every other world. Just doesn't pertain to me at all and never will.
I do ok, at least in my book I do. Just because I don't play by the rules according to 'everyone' else here doesn't mean a damn thing. You all just don't like it that's all. Sick thing is, you don't know anything about how I 'do' things here anyway, you're all 'speculating' as usual lol, that's what's so funny. Only the gentlemen I see regularly know the 'real' story. Enough said.
Now go get that free pussy, I'm not stoppin ya. I'm sure it comes a dime a dozen here and in every other world. Just doesn't pertain to me at all and never will.
plus fed and a tip . best gig you ever had, plus all those cute photos for your bedroom wall ..lol
Posted By: TaylorSteele
That's what's the problem here. You all think pussy should be free and shouldn't be paying the rates that are being charged...well it's not for you to decide. I'm sorry. Get over it, join Match, leave the hobby or be content fucking your SO again. It's that simple.
it IS your job to be aware of why our rates are what they are...then you'll quit your bitchin. No more questioning like a pussy and I would guarantee it would change the thought processes of 'johns' completely. Maybe not the 'jacks' but the johns lol.
Be and think smarter, not dumber Jack before you flap those gums of yours. I bet your one of the cheap bastards too, I would bank on it. You and your gotta have OTC time. You remind me of someone very much with that one. On that note, I have NO further comment for you.
I didn't really care much for this thread until you joined in. now I am literally LMAO.
I can just imagine a car salesman using your argument "well you make xxx per year, you can certainly afford this car" when I refuse to pay full sticker price. My ability to pay is completely irrelevant to what I am "willing" to pay, and I am not even one of the guys bitching about the "high price of pussy"
Now please grace me with your comments, I could use another giant laugh this afternoon, I am already in a good mood after the Rangers win, but I can always get in a better one. and laughing at your crazy ass always puts me in a better mood. It reminds me of how happy I am NOT to have any one like you in my life. lmao
and her buttons are just so easy to push. I guess what they say about "older women" being easier to heat up is true, and not just in a sexual way. rofl
chalking it up to a damn infantile meltdown again hahahaha. If you can't handle it GAG, get your ass outta the kitchen lol. The only time i would ever come close to melting down anywhere on this planet is if something happened to those closest to me in my real world, not remotely anything related to any fuckheads on here LOL. Who are you kidding LOL hahahahaha. Now that's hilarious.
Ever hear this saying.....
"When you point one finger, there are three fingers pointing back to you."
Pertains to you I think. Oh and Jack. Oh and 'I'Nicky lol. I'm sure the list could go on and on and on...but I won't.
Speaking of which, I'm sure Mr. Recycle will come up with something soon thinking he's all cool in school lol. It's old Mr. I'nicky....very very very very very old. I'll tell ya before you even think of doing it.
you are simply a BSC hooker that entertains me by having periodic meltdowns on a fuck board.
When you start making sense, I will treat you accordingly. In the meantime, you are simply someone for me to laugh at, just like Turdy, Pimples and Fungy.
and why would I be the one to leave this board? I am having fun and LMAO, you are the one freaking out on a pretty regular basis.
like most on here explains why you would mistake someone being 'vocal' with a meltdown. That makes sense and I feel for people like you...who have the inability to 'feel'. But go figure, look where you are.
Anyhow, I bet your one of these guys GAG. A beautiful lady charges 400 an hour and offers a $25 discount. You'd book simply because of that ridiculous discount, wouldn't ya? LMAO friggin hilarious guys who book for this reason. I laugh every time I see that. Like there's any comparison to knocking 25 bucks off the top of 400. I mean really? That's cab fare for god sakes but it does speak VOLUMES for the guy.
Oh yea, that's your gig, I can tell without you saying a word. I'm gonna offer a $13.37 discount for all who don't try to negotiate. Think it'll work?
Let's see, how many times has she flamed out here, told us she's stomping off and then come back as clueless as ever? How many times has she begged us via PM to be left alone? How many times has she said she'll be posting less here because of her busy schedule, only to post like one with keyboard diarrhea? She's really such a looney tune. I think instead of calling The Clueless One Minnie, we should just call her Bugs
Happy I could liven up your afternoon. I needed a break anyhow, nothing like a good debate.
I will say this...my BEST clients are the one liners, they set up the date, keep it simple from word one, we don't even talk about any of the financial piece cause they got it covered and I don't even need to think or worry about it when the date is done. It's a done deal, I can enjoy myself and he does as well (trust me lol) because that 'other' piece is off the table. New for you boys....THAT is what turns women on here. The minute I see one word or question or anything in a line about, Well Ms. Steele......I'm like here it comes. Right then and there, the date ain't happening lol. HUGE TURNOFF.
I have a SHITLOAD of respect for gentlemen who play this game right in this world. And those are the guys who turn me on. You get what you give. All the rest...see ya.
That last thing I care about is gaining your respect. Oops scratch that, actually that's the second to last thing, the last thing I care about would be to ever have a "date" with you, paid or otherwise. rofl
This will lead to steady price rises. This will occur because there are more older men who still want --and (given viagra etc) can have-- sex, while the number of older women still interested will not rise.
how 'sex' is with them. I'd go with LESS than many of the 20yos out there now. Yep, final answer. Especially if the '50' yos in question have ever been married and didn't 'sway' during that time. Definitely, final answer.
Who's 50 anyway?
And I meant LE risk with new providers, not 'old' or 'older' providers which you are all hung up on lol. New may be cheaper by the hour but hey, you run the risk of losing a lot more than a few nickels. Again, up to you. Hmmm, which do I choose this evening LOL......a nickel, bars, or my right hand? Tough choice, I know.
As the baby boomers get older/die off, they are being replaced by college kids who can't find a job and won't have the same disposable income when they come into their hobby years
I think the good doctor needs to drop by a "cougar bar" or any place frequented by a bunch of middle aged or older divorced women. These women don't just feast on "boy toys" any man with most of his teeth, and even a little bit of hair is considered a "catch"
a duplex,a Ferrari 2 Bentleys and a Range Rover for his ex sugar baby. Not sure if she is a working girl or not but man that is some pricey pussy! I wonder what kind of service the girls of TER would lavish upon me for that lol.
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. You are more than welcome to NOT pay our rates but don't go and bitch like a bunch of lil pussies that your hornier than hell and can't and have nowhere to get off. Right hand meet cock again...just like in highschool. And don't forget to stock up on some lube for pennies on the dollar. Now you're saving. Not sure what else to tell ya boys, but to enjoy!!! 
