http://www.bitterlawyer.com/eight-ways-to-not-get-caught/

yeah, problem is, they tell you not to use your name and do some things that would prevent you from getting screened properly. Getting screened is a doubled edged sword as it puts men in danger and not getting screened puts women in danger. How do you decide which is more important? Do you really even ant to see a woman who doesn't screen? Do you want to be placed in a bad situation because you were screened? It's a merrygoround.

is Max Strong or something.  Then use those providers as references.

This was a good read and oh so true...

Since getting into hobbying, I've learned the less providers know about you the better.  

1. I now use a fake first and last name.
2. I have a hobby e-mail
3. I have a hobby phone, with a voice mail greeting using my fake name.
4. I have a second hobby phone, that's used as my work line, with a very professional greeting, stating my fake name, fake job title, and fake company I work for. (for providers who want to screen)
5. I have a hobby wallet, with a fake ID.

The only thing I don't use that's fake, is fake hobby money, because that's just wrong. LOL!

Because that amount of fakery would earn you top spot on every provider's DNS list.

I use a fake name, hobby phones, and e-mail on a tracphone for the same reasons providers do the same. For safety, and discretion. My career is TOO important for my personal info to slip into the hands.

So many of these articles talk about not using your real name with providers. But how does one do that and be verifiable?

You can't.  There are some on here who will tell you you can.  All the power to them but I bet it has more to do with the risks of seeing BP girls.  There's always risk in this hobby.  Methinks the risk of giving your ID to women who check on p411 and rs2k (and probably date check) is much lower than the risk of answering one of those BP ads with no questions asked.  Uncle LEO may be waiting behind the door.

Most of the time, if a girl is given your real name it's only when she does a quick check of your DL upon entry.  The few times this has happened I never saw her write anything down and she couldn't possibly remember it after the multiple orgasms I gave her.  LOL!

Now, personally, that entire bit would fall through on my screening process for one reason - which I will not state.

Its not as clever as it sounds though it would be sufficient for a non-screening provider or a provider who pretends to screen and does not.

Frankly, I don't care about a man's personal information and don't require extensive personal information if he has a long track record with top-rated or at the very least known, reputable providers who I feel that I can trust.

But in instances when references are not available, personal information is required and I must say that nine times out of ten men are willing to provide it.  In the instances when they are not *most* are respectful about it and when we reach the point where neither of us are willing to go a step farther our communication ends with appreciation that at least we tried....and in those instances down the line when references are available they often double back to try me again.

The fakery would annoy me, it wouldn't be a reason to DNS.  I empathize with clients.  Neither of us have more to lose than the other and I think we should all remember that no matter how frustrating it gets.

Good point.  The reality is that you have to be selective of the providers you choose because for the provider to be comfortable, you are going to have to give your real name in most cases.   Coming up with the fake identity gets a bit complicated and could create other problems and expense that is unnecessary. I think the key is that you cannot go around trying to to see 100s of providers.  It is better to line up a handful of higher end experienced providers so you lower your chances of trouble.

It would fall through mine too!  I screen the exact way!  I don't give a damn who you are, as long as the gentleman has a track record with well reviewed and established providers.  I do care that we are not in the same line of business in my real world and you're not a relative!  Imagine the horror on both our faces if a client that faked who he was, knows me in my other line of profession or is a relative.  

If you have references, many ladies do not ask for your personal information.  So why the elaborate lying?

I know ladies who screen via meet and greets, or other means... and there are even ladies who do not screen at all.  Hey, if you have no references and you're concerned about your privacy - look for these ladies, they exist!  But, let's say you want to meet a lady who does screen and you have no references.  PLEASE SIMPLY BE HONEST.  It's possible you will feel that what she asks is too personal to disclose, and it's possible what you are willing to share won't be enough to make her feel safe.  No big deal, you just don't meet.  Try again with the next lady, you will be successful... just maybe not with your first (or second) choice.

Those who would go through elaborate measures to fake a screening are showing complete disrespect for the ladies right to attempt to keep herself safe.  Absolutely disgusting!  Why do so many clients think their safety is important, yet the safety of the lady is a joke?  Please have some respect and act like a man.  If you cannot pass her screening, see someone else.

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(BTW, any lady who really knows how to screen will see through the fake information you have set up, as you describe it.)

Thanks for telling the rapists and serial killers how to get to the providers!

Yes, it is disrespect.  Again, a simple concept that you don't quite understand... yet seem very versed in.

I expect the men who contact me to do more homework than verifying that they feel I am fuckable.  With years of reviews and other sources to pull from, there is plenty of information available.  Not only can a gentleman do his homework, I feel it is his responsibility.  From all of the stories I have heard over the years... when a gent gets burned in this game 9 times out of 10 it could have been easily prevented.

What is my point? Don't be an ass.
Perhaps that is too much to ask.

I would be careful of P411 or any agency who's owner is wanted in the U.S.  It only takes the owner to cut a deal and all your information is handed over.  If you have to flee the country then you are not someone that I want to have my information.

but if you're a newbie, then I do.  

It's really pretty simple.

"Yes, it is disrespect.  Again, a simple concept that you don't quite understand... yet seem very versed in."

Well make up your mind. You really aren't too good with any concept that doesn't include you being in control. I think it highlights your insecurity.

"I expect the men who contact me to do more homework than verifying that they feel I am fuckable.  With years of reviews and other sources to pull from, there is plenty of information available.  Not only can a gentleman do his homework, I feel it is his responsibility.  From all of the stories I have heard over the years... when a gent gets burned in this game 9 times out of 10 it could have been easily prevented."

Look, Toots, you're a commodity with a relatively short shelf life. Yeah, LOL, you "expect" johns to do homeweork but you're not only selling your ass, you're selling your ass off. You can "expect" whatever the hell you want but believing it shows just how deluded you are. Yes, there is plenty of information available - like discounts after four pops. When a gent gets burned it's because 9 times out of ten he let his dick do the thinking.

"What is my point? Don't be an ass.
Perhaps that is too much to ask."

Your Highness, being called an ass by the likes of you is the equivalent of being knighted. You don't have a point, you're just pissed off you don't get to rule the world. I think you really hate men and are in this business to control them. I think THAT is your point.

having certain men giving out false information. We only ask because we want to be safe and to be comfortable with the gents we meet so that a good time can be had by both.  If you don't want to be screened than why don't you just see the girls who don't bother screening? There are plenty girls who don't screen so why try seeing those of us who do and then try to lie and give us false information? If an escort screens properly, your false information won't be accepted anyway. Having a hobby phone and a hobby email address makes sense.  But trying to get over on us is just dishonest and low. We all have something to lose when engaging in this hobby and a good provider will be discrete with your information as she has the same need for discretion as you.