I look at it like this you get what you pay for, kind o like buying Crown Royal versus Wild Irish Rose at the liquor store. Seriously though if a girl is providing for 50 bucks or whatever not a good thing, I would think it would make the risks of this hobby larger. I saw one on BP offering 40 qv that's scary, probally have to wait for you're number to be called, not my cup of tea. Ever notice how many people are in Walmart versus how many in Neiman Marcus? I have no allusions as to exclusivity with higher tier providers but the price point will keep some if the riff raffle away. Of course I can't say much if the ladies saw me with the work duds on probally wouldn't answer my emails. I bet I am the only Hvac repair man they've been with. That's what I live about this hobby, a regular guy like me can experience some once in a lifetime ladies. Also though lower prices make me more suspicious of LE setups.
Ok, whatever the average price of it it is.
I wonder what's the most you guys would pay?
But more importantly what's the lowest you would go?
I haven't heard of $20 in years.
But I've seen a $55 - $70 to $100+ range. Would you or wouldn't you?
But I do admit that it does raise some red flags.
a 4 star hotel with gfe, for only 100 bucks but I know of one girl in my area who does FBSM for 150. There is NO touching her whatsoever, just her massaging you and ends in a hand job. She is 20, in college, and hot as hell. Even at that low of a rate her volume rarely goes past 2 guys a day, but even if it did...it is only her HAND being used.
You see in strip clubs all the time.
You get what you pay for. At 100 you can likely expect more up sell, older pics and a higher level of disinterest.
... are ladies who advertise in BackPage and no way I would go near those ladies.
I prefer to stay with TER ladies, whose rates are much higher. They do far more screening than those BackPage ladies do. That makes it a safer environment for both parties.
Serpius
I wonder what's the most you guys would pay?
But more importantly what's the lowest you would go?
I haven't heard of $20 in years.
But I've seen a $55 - $70 to $100+ range. Would you or wouldn't you?
Hi Serpius,
& research, research, research! You can find a diamond in the rough on BP!! I found an ATF on BP!! Just Sayin'
I prefer to stay with TER ladies, whose rates are much higher. They do far more screening than those BackPage ladies do. That makes it a safer environment for both parties.
Serpius
I wonder what's the most you guys would pay?
But more importantly what's the lowest you would go?
I haven't heard of $20 in years.
But I've seen a $55 - $70 to $100+ range. Would you or wouldn't you?
... dispute the 'research' part, which I do anyways.
But... Backpage? I don't know about your area, but the ladies from Backpage in my area are not trustworthy at all.
Sure, I'll look at the ads and if they claim to have reviews, I'll ask them for their TER ID.
9 times out of 10, they never reply because they don't have one. In some cases, they will say, 'Oh I have reviews on this or that website.' Sorry, it's TER reviews or nothing at all.
They are attempting to trick guys by using the terms "have reviews" to bring legitimacy to their advertisements.
Besides that, I already have 2 wonderful ATFs that I frequent. So, I don't need to deal with those Backpage ladies.
Serpius
I stick to review sites because I can easily find reliable info on ladies. I am NOT willing to take one for the team! I let the more adventurous types (like you?) to look for the 'diamond in the rough'.
I look at it like this you get what you pay for, kind o like buying Crown Royal versus Wild Irish Rose at the liquor store. Seriously though if a girl is providing for 50 bucks or whatever not a good thing, I would think it would make the risks of this hobby larger. I saw one on BP offering 40 qv that's scary, probally have to wait for you're number to be called, not my cup of tea. Ever notice how many people are in Walmart versus how many in Neiman Marcus? I have no allusions as to exclusivity with higher tier providers but the price point will keep some if the riff raffle away. Of course I can't say much if the ladies saw me with the work duds on probally wouldn't answer my emails. I bet I am the only Hvac repair man they've been with. That's what I live about this hobby, a regular guy like me can experience some once in a lifetime ladies. Also though lower prices make me more suspicious of LE setups.
Price is not a guarantee of quality!!
I can pretty much also promise you that these ladies have seen everyone from Neurosurgeons to Dog Poop Scoopers.
You're probally right I'm new to this game, I'm sure there are some fine ladies on backpage. I've seen some lookers there for sure. I guess the bottom line is research and more research. I tend to be pretty conservative as far as risk so that's why I choose the higher price point and get recommendations from ladies in that circle. Nothing wrong with backpage just my 2 cents
Some of the well reviewed ladies here use BP now and then. I'm saying that (at least for me) the ladies you meet here are just as beautiful and talented as most of those who charge much much more. I know you got off to a good start. Stay in the same playground for a while.
but let us get real here for a bit. What kind of location does someone only charging 100 bucks work from? How many guys does she HAVE to see to even make a profit after expenses? Most hotels are at least 150 with tax, so that's at LEAST 3 guys a day she has to see to even make it worth doing. We are not talking just hand jobs either, but gfe for that rate. Fk that!
When I was only charging 300, there was no way for me to provide the perks to my clients that I can now, unless I wanted to screw 3 guys a day...just no way.
One aspect of your business will always have to suffer as your rate goes down, but I agree it is usually never the sex part.
Rarely do women working a full time job in RL, go down on their escort rate...they usually go up, knowing they don't need the money that bad.
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Yea, but can you PICK the type of room you want and the extras? I doubt it. You are very limited when you use such sites like priceline. I don't go that route. I have to have certain things in my room, and not just get stuck with what they give me. Even a crap hotel like a Days Inn that is downtown costs more than 100 bucks in most places.
My point is how many guys is someone only charging 100 bucks going to have to see to cover her room, travel, food, etc.? It is going to be more than 2 for damn sure, and that is every day. Plus, I don't know many women in that rate structure working out of anything better than a Holiday Inn. Most actually use Microtel or Motel 6 if you read reviews on other boards.
The FBSM I was talking about earlier uses a private incall that she happens to share costs with, not a hotel.
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out of NYC. You'd have to have a higher rate.
I can't imagine a lady with lower rates getting a fine hotel. Instead they would be like the one I booked or worse.
Good point by the way
I have never stayed in a hotel in NYC for less than 350, and that was the Belvedere....it SUCKED!
What most do not realize about these third party sites, is they inflate the star ratings...crazyshit can break it down for you in NYC, because it is bogus. If they say it is a 3.5, you're barely getting a 3 star. I book suites, not "rooms" and I have yet to be able to find one on a third party site unless it was like a Residence Inn Marriot, where they are all suites anyway.
I have been stuck with crappy rooms where the AC did not work, had a shower only, stuck on the first damn floor where the kitchen was right there, etc. Learned my lesson!
I have used hotwire many times for other things, but never again for the hobby. They cannot guarantee your room type either, and that is right there in bold print. If you book 2 Queens, you may get stuck with a King. I insist on 2 beds because I don't sleep in the same bed I play in.
I bet you're worth every nickel though!! Supports my point that usually you get what you pay for. If I ever make down you're way you can bet we will meet.
If you have partaken in this wonderful hobby long enough, you will realize that money should never be the final determination of booking a session. We have all had wonderful/incredible $250 dollar sessions and lousy $600 dollar sessions. At the end of the day, I think what you pay for a session only gives you some false pre-conceived notion on how the session should turn out. The more you pay, the more you expect. Never works out that way.
The bottom line is that the successful ladies have an incredible ability to fullfill YOUR desires for the session. Each hobbyist comes to an appointment with their own agenda (which vary greatly) and the top tier ladies are able to cater a session accordingly. You can't put a price on this ability.
It's not a matter of what price I would pay (high or low). If a lady matches what I seek physically and her reviews reflect the ability to cater each individual and make the hobbyist feel like nothing else matters during your time together, then that's someone I would want to see.
Well said kind of what I meant but I'm not smart enough to put in to words
long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
If you have partaken in this wonderful hobby long enough, you will realize that money should never be the final determination of booking a session. We have all had wonderful/incredible $250 dollar sessions and lousy $600 dollar sessions. At the end of the day, I think what you pay for a session only gives you some false pre-conceived notion on how the session should turn out. The more you pay, the more you expect. Never works out that way.
The bottom line is that the successful ladies have an incredible ability to fullfill YOUR desires for the session. Each hobbyist comes to an appointment with their own agenda (which vary greatly) and the top tier ladies are able to cater a session accordingly. You can't put a price on this ability.
It's not a matter of what price I would pay (high or low). If a lady matches what I seek physically and her reviews reflect the ability to cater each individual and make the hobbyist feel like nothing else matters during your time together, then that's someone I would want to see.
I would not go that low. However, I hobby only when traveling. If I am in a given town for a few days, I don't take chances. I don't see that woman whose rates are outside the norm.
However, if I lived in a good hobby town, I would definitely try the ladies outside of the price range (both plus and minus.) What have you got to lose, besides time and money?
Min $500
Max $1200
per hour
In Thailand, you get a 20 year old young and fit beauty that gives dfk, daty and bbbj for $25. This is for an hour of service with a clean hotel room included. You and the girl both shower before and after the session.
The cost is lower since the hobby is legal in Thailand. Some of the British guys stay in Thailand for months since the hobby is so affordable.
I hobbied two years ago in Amsterdam's Red Light District for 70 Euros per session with women that would be supermodels here. However, the service was more vanilla and not GFE with no DFK and CBJ. Again, it's all legal begal in Amsterdam and therefore the cost is not inflated.