I offer vip and for clients that want that something more of course there is an extra charge. I don’t think that “extra service” should be included in the basic price.
My clients don’t ever complain about that, those that want the VIP experience gladly pay for it.
Recently I came to the realization that I'm going to implement separate rates for vanilla GFE sessions and sessions that are beyond the scope of vanilla GFE. Years back, I was influenced by the logic that upcharging might be off-putting. While I always understood and respected the reasons why other companions did so, I'm now at a place where I see for myself why I need to make that shift.
Companions who charge different rates for BDSM and fetish requests, niche or specialized services, or PSE, did you do so when starting out or was it a change you made at a later point? Also what prompted you to structure your rates based on different services?
After reading more reviews, it seems there is a greater level of understanding and acceptance amongst clients when it comes to upcharging. So I'm hoping whoever chooses to comment does so respectfully.
I have taken the add ons and ala carte route since 2022. I found many guys don’t always want fs but maybe just want bj. So I don’t think they should be paying same price as fs. So I separated into levels . I do add ons though like prostate. But if someone wants some crazy add ons then yes charge accordingly. Obviously not everyone is into kinks or wants things like anal so I don’t think those should be included in the all around price. Add ons are things that could be added to every service that I do because I do bdsm, nuru, and fs.
Nuru is another example l had in mind so I appreciate you mentioning it. Acknowledging different levels of experience and subsets of skills is important. The a la carte / add ons that you detail highlight those distinctions.
Sticking with Nuru as an example, based on what I understand, it requires the real authentic Nuru gel and more involved physicality compared to many non-Nuru massage techniques. Therefore you set expectations by appropriately valuing all that's needed to prepare for and provide that service.
Nuru definitely can be done wrong and I hear it from guys all the time about the terrible ones they gotten. It’s a skill and an art and it takes time to do. I have thought about teaching classes on it but fear getting in trouble .
BDSM is an Art it’s a niche and it takes decades to Master.
TER is a vanilla site. When I first started over twenty years ago I was strictly FBSM & BDSM. No GFE. No PSE.
The donation should never be the same because it takes time to create & prepare fantasies, role-play and fetish fun!
I find it hard to have one set rate for all BDSM it’s wrong because everyone’s kink is different. Spanking and edging is mild to me personally I feel double fisting is a talent & very few have the ability to do. Same goes for taboo shower fun 🤩 why would it be the same tribute?
I have changed my cost of services way too much over the years because it’s hard to be specific with all the rules. I am a prostate pro. I specialize in Sensual Domination. Consultations are necessary when planning kinky adventures.
GFE & PSE is higher risks, so the cost in my personal opinion should always be more, and when combined with BDSM that’s the ultimate companion.
Great post. Love! ❤️
IMO, what you’re describing is not upcharging. When a provider advertises full service, and in the middle of giving me a BJ, I tell her I am ready to fuck, and she says, “That’s an extra $200.” That’s upcharging. Same if she advertises GFE and won’t DFK unless I pay extra. These piss me off.
However, if you’re crystal clear about your rates, what’s included, and what are add ons and their costs, I see no issue with it. And, I believe certain things actually make sense as add ons or alternative service options. Different prices for things like BDSM, Massage, Tantra, Edging, Nuru, Greek, PSE, etc… Some of these might fall within the same tier. Clients mainly don’t like unexpected surprises. Nor do they like nickel and diming, so I wouldn’t go overboard. For example, don’t advertise full service and/or GFE and have DFK or BBBJ as add ons for it.
For years, I've been thinking of an upcharge and an add-on as interchangeable. Thanks for the correction. And I do plan to clearly list the difference between rate tiers.
As long as I know going in that X costs $, Y costs $$, and Z costs $$$, I can make informed choices.
Your body, your rules on how you want to engage.
My money, my decision on how to spend it.
As long as I know going in that X costs $, Y costs $$, and Z costs $$$, I can make informed choices.
Your body, your rules on how you want to engage.
My money, my decision on how to spend it.
Great points. Thanks for chiming in.
When clients complain about upcharges, they are usually referring to undisclosed fees or extra charges that are revealed during session and not disclosed in the provider’s ad or website. This is made worse when the ad hints that these services should be included in the base price. For example if a provider lists a flat rate of $500/hour for GFE in their ad, but insists that DFK costs another $100. If it is disclosed in the ad, it isn’t a big issue. Also, clients usually expect a provider to charge more for certain premium services like PSE or BDSM. These activities usually require more preparation or can be more mentally taxing, so a provider deserves to be compensated for that.
Thank you for these insights about the importance of disclosure. I wholeheartedly agree. It's understandable why many clients would be justifiably frustrated with this nickel and diming, especially during the middle of a session.
Yea there are definitely three big problems with this approach. As you mentioned, it definitely feels like nickel and diming. Also when it happens in a session it interrupts the flow and kills the mood. Finally, I usually don’t bring extra money to an appointment as a safety measure. There is always the potential a client can get robbed or busted, which means I lose any money I bring. So even if I wanted to pay more I usually can’t.
Makes sense. The flip side also comes to mind. There are scenarios where companions cannot easily accommodate a request without having prepared beforehand.
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In a very specific example, let's say a client wants to do Greek or anal play. Informing his date for the first time while in the midst of a session may result in disappointment. Even if the companion charges and were offered additional compensation, fulfilling that fantasy at the drop of a hat is much less feasible without proper planning.
…is legal issues as in an ideal world where SW is legal, a provider can advertise a la carte like at a car wash and people can add services to a cart and check out…lol
i am all for it but another issue is also people not walking with tons of cash…unless electronic payment is an option for an upcharge…
i am even fine with a base rate for just a meeting and then deciding what you want on the spot (after screening of course)…if nothing sexual happens then you just enjoy each ithers company and move on
i made a thread this past summer on a provider i wanted to see who texted people a menu of her a la carte services which was offputting..:.(she was arrssted for trafficking btw)
for me personally, the BBBJ is my favorite as i have shared many times it is like being in heaven when a talented gal does it…one of the reasons inwas interested in that provider i mentioned above, besides her being my type body wise, was she offered half hour appointments for bbbj forna reasonable rate
This old joke sign that hung in many a bar describes the issue:
Our Rates:
1. Giving advice: $50/hour
2. Taking advice: $100/hour
3. Settling arguments: $500 per argument.
I offer vip and for clients that want that something more of course there is an extra charge. I don’t think that “extra service” should be included in the basic price.
My clients don’t ever complain about that, those that want the VIP experience gladly pay for it.
I price these based on how much additional work it feels like to me to offer the service.
An outfit request is some amount of preparation and thought.
Light submission from me requires additional vulnerability and mental engagement and keeping myself safe and respected.
Femdom is rewarding, but required years of practice and skill development, and requires substantial preparation and intense mental effort. So that one has the highest premium, and I only accept a couple of bookings like this a month.
If I want more, I just want to know how much.
Clients have commented that it's crucial to them to know prior to showing up about any additional compensation a companion demands. As a companion, recently I've experienced the inverse scenario. BEFORE meeting in-person, I made my best attempts to clarify what I gracefully decided to consider a good faith misunderstanding about what date type and activities could be expected.
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In one instance I needed to reiterate not once, but twice... in writing via email, that the confirmed date duration meant that submission and Kinky GFE were absolutely not happening. It was simultaneously fascinating and shocking to be put in a place where my clarifications and reminders were still ignored during the session.
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Previously, the fact that I do not submit or offer Kinky GFE during one hour sessions was something I made apparent multiple times on my website, on Tryst, etc. I've updated my website and ads to mention this policy even more times. Moving forward, I'll (politely) decline meeting anyone who even asks.
I can't be bothered to slice and dice, specify and stratify whatever activities might end up on a menu. Egads, that just sounds horrendous to even contemplate! 😱
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I'm being compensated for my time, and my time alone, regardless of what may occur so my rate remains the same. Sure, some dates are a bit more mentally or physically intense... and some are less so. So what? 🤷🏻♀️ The goal is for all parties to walk away feeling 2" taller, 5lbs lighter and THEIR own perfect combo of exhausted, exhilarated, connected and cared for.
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I'm not knocking anyone who offers various price point/services. Just not my jam...
Edrienne, I’m right there with you... though I view it less as "laziness" and more as a necessary legal firewall.
My view is that when menus link cash to specific acts, things can get murky. A flat rate clarifies the contract: you are leasing my presence, not buying a specific friction.
But the real luxury of the flat rate is that it purifies the enthusiasm. W/ that baseline established (because the meter runs the same whether we are talking or touching) my clients never wonder if my passion is an upsell.
If I’m doing that specific thing, it’s not because it costs extra. It’s because I want to. It keeps the pleasure on the house, even if the time is on the clock. The gate is the fee, but the garden is for free.
Love this, and this is why I continue to see one lady with the same biz model. Every visit is different but genuine and have become friends away from here.
This is a thought provoking perspective Pandora. I could totally see how higher rates create space for a free garden. 
I don't mind owning my laziness, it's an indulgence after a certain fashion.😉 That said, I purposely avoided the "legal firewall" aspect of à la carte rate structures, even though I hold the same opinion. Historically, it's brought the armchair "legal experts" out en masse to argue all manner of idiocy that my laziness just doesn't care to entertain.🙄
Love your phrasing - "the gate is the fee, but the garden is free". Yes! I enjoy what I enjoy and those things will likely be somewhat standard for each encounter *because I enjoy them*. But the exact flow, chemistry, events, etc will vary as much as each person varies, each time we see each other. As it should. Because IT'S REAL. It's who we are in that moment.
And the idea of trying to script that, define that, put it into menu format would totally kill MY pleasure... and dammit, that's why I'm here and not in some corporate office somewhere. *MY* enjoyment matters, and it just so happens that *I ENJOY* darn near anything that results in someone else's joy.😇 Compersion is a real thing.
Love your site, BTW. Def unique!
Hi Lena
Originally I provided all services at one rate while requiring a booking minimum for certain services. I provide GFE, Greek, Nuru Gel Massage, Sensual Domination, Toys for Boys and Pegging to name a few. I realized quickly if I didn't provide time minimums, gents would want to cram everything into a 1 hour/90 min session. So perhaps this is another form of upcharging
Clients don't have a concept for how long each service takes. If the appointment feels rushed in any way, the client will not compliment for accommodating all of his wish list, but just complain that it felt rushed. "What happened to the companionship, just laying and talking", one client complained,. He made this comment while I was smiling in complete satisfaction at the end of the date as I was able to hit every item on his booking form. Never rush the client, so now I make them book enough time. My rates are reasonable enough they can upgrade to more time.
For surcharges, I only charge a small fee for the Strap-on and for the Greek. I enjoy both, but both requires additional prep, harder on my body, requires additional supplies. I don't charge extra for the Nuru even though this is a core workout with plenty of shoulder stabilization because I want to be Nuruing. I love it and I don't want to feel like I am nickeling and diming. I want to demonstrate, this is my flagship offering and I am not charging you extra for it, but I will make you book a minimum of 2 hours for it. That is just my thought process.
Thanks for the question.
Hugs
Jessie