bbfs think your on client is making a big leap judgement thinking it means that.
Not a fan of the treat her right at the end of the reviews I feel like if a gent books a provider he should be respectful and treat her the way he would want to be treated. I know that doesn't always happen and some people are assholes.
He could be missing out on some lovely ladies all because of a reviewer she had no control over decided to write treat her right.
Just my .02
So in a recent session, we were chatting about reviews and some of the more popular cliche phrases which are often used. I mentioned a common closing statement is "treat her right, guys" to which he replied, "you know what the means, right?" And, well... no, I don't.
He said it means that if you treat her right (and he did the little thumb and fingers gesture meaning money) that she will offer more "menu" items, which he believes means BBFS. So he thinks any review which says "treat her right" means BB is on the menu for money, perhaps even as an upsell, with that lady.
I told him no, I don't think it means that at all. Sure, "treat her right and she'll treat you right" could definitely sound like "pay her more and you'll get more" but I DON'T think it means this all the time and it certainly doesn't inherently mean BBFS.
He said I'm naive (lmao) and he won't see ladies who have that in their reviews, because he's sure it means BBFS is available at the right price.
So.... is that what YOU think the cliche "treat her right" means?
and in NO case was I trying to imply you can pay for BB.
Perhaps it's a local market situation but given that BB is no longer a taboo subject and even advertised would question his take.
I never took that cliche to mean anything other then to just "Treat her nice". In my opinion I always thought of it as a kinda corny thing to say, like duh, no shit...lol
You mentioning it now is the first time I've heard that.
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Ok, I'm just kidding about the White Knight reference, hold the hate-mail and flame-throwers.
I doubt that the client who believes it means BBFS (bareback full service) has it correct. He may believe it himself all he wants to, interpretation is his entitlement. Look at all the brand-new providers who get that written about them in their very first review, or first few reviews. Some of them are so young, sweet, innocent, unjaded, and fun that they've impressed the reviewer to the point that he doesn't want typical bad male behavior to scare them away from the business. The same is true for other providers with more time-in-service who have just shown the guy a good time. He wants others to be cool with her because she was cool with him.
Nope, I don't think "treat her right" is a wink and a nod about slipping it in skin-to-skin. Is it trite that they write it on this site? It might (be), but let's not fight. For some guys' way to write, it's alright, and doesn't (really) make them a White Knight.
Good night.
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Lol. I always interpreted it as a fake (by the provider) or shill/WK review.
...especially if the words yummy or tasty are also used in the review.
BBFS? No. Never crossed my mind.
I have NEVER heard it used as a code for BBFS.
What is there to understand?
“Treat her nice “ means just that— for some of you so you can understand it simply means “ Don’t be an asshole”
“ Deb is a great provider - treat her right!”should mean nothing more
To many have left because of the actions of a few .
And I have written more than a few in my day across multiple sites. In fact, I tend to discount reviews where guys say that because I take it to mean he has an agenda and the review is not objective, but largely biased. Like someone else said, he likes the girl and is doing a little shilling.
The other problem I have with this is that its condescending towards other mongers. The speaker is implying that the mongers reading the review are NOT nice to all providers and must be told who to be nice to. The vast majority of the mongers I know are nice to everyone they see unless the providers does something to not deserve it.
Finally, I have never heard from anyone, provider or monger, that it alludes to BBFS. I think this guy just made that up.
I agree with everything cdl just said.
"Treat the girl nicely" is redundant and condescending to the audience. It's like saying, wash your hands when you use a bathroom. Or treat your relatives nicely. Or take care of your kids.
Well duh, as Chris Rock would say, you're SUPPOSED TO
It literally adds nothing to the review either, besides planting a subconscious thought that if you don't have a good session, it's because you didn't treat her nicely somehow.
It's like saying, wash your hands when you use a bathroom.
It literally adds nothing to the review either, besides planting a subconscious thought that if you don't have a good session, it's because you didn't treat her nicely somehow.
be intended to mean "wash your hands when you use the bathroom because you're too stupid to figure it out for yourself."
Well, yes, but in this case treating a woman right is always right and correct. I was trying to think of a good truism. It is implied that we are going to treat women right.
Interesting to read all the interpretations of the phrase, "Treat her right". I take it as nothing other than be polite. But, after a while, its like guys preaching on this board about various things, like being clean. If you're on this board, in general, you know how to get good service; clean, little cologne if any, mouthwash, etc. Saying anything else is just preaching to the choir. Guys who are going to be assholes, well, will still be asshold and not care what you write on this board or say in person. So, it is a useless tagline.
As far as the meaning, I never have thought it meant anything other than just be a nice person. Especially if the girl is a bit on the 'innocent' or 'naive' side. Never would have thought I meant BBFS, and makes me wonder about that guy - did he interpret it as a submissive that he could take advantage of is my first thought, noting my previous statement.
And I have written more than a few in my day across multiple sites. In fact, I tend to discount reviews where guys say that because I take it to mean he has an agenda and the review is not objective, but largely biased. Like someone else said, he likes the girl and is doing a little shilling.
The other problem I have with this is that its condescending towards other mongers. The speaker is implying that the mongers reading the review are NOT nice to all providers and must be told who to be nice to. The vast majority of the mongers I know are nice to everyone they see unless the providers does something to not deserve it.
Finally, I have never heard from anyone, provider or monger, that it alludes to BBFS. I think this guy just made that up.
I get annoyed more than anything when I read "treat her right" on the reviews.
Anywho, it seems like he missed one of your reviews which said, "So give Debra a try and treat her right and she will take care of you". lol ![]()
For me, it never meant anything to do with BBFS. At worst it was just a throw away phrase that didn’t mean much, and at best it was an acknowledgement that the reviewer had a good time, liked the provider and was suggesting to other mongers to be nice to the girl rather than act callous or treat her poorly because doing so might encourage her to leave the hobby.
I never associated it with BBFS. I take it to mean that if you (as a client) are respectful, clean, considerate, etc. then you will get to see the lady at her best and have the best time possible with her.
IMO has always meant show up clean, freshly showered, not drunk/high, not being an asshole, not overstaying your time, not haggling her price, etc. Especially for a touring provider, it can be the difference between her choosing to come back to the area in the future.
I agree 💯. I never took it to mean that bbfs or anything else was on the menu. Rather, I always took it to mean that the reviewer was endorsing the lady as a good provider and a nice person.
It allows any idiot to interpret them in any fashion they choose.
Having been in p4p (off & on) since 1992, I've NEVER heard of someone referencing this tired old saying as implied BBFS.
bbfs think your on client is making a big leap judgement thinking it means that.
Not a fan of the treat her right at the end of the reviews I feel like if a gent books a provider he should be respectful and treat her the way he would want to be treated. I know that doesn't always happen and some people are assholes.
He could be missing out on some lovely ladies all because of a reviewer she had no control over decided to write treat her right.
Just my .02
...of it as any kind of quid pro quo, not even YMMV. It just seems to be a quaint way for a lot of reviewers to wrap up a review.
that someone seems to think that you will mistreat her unless HE tells you not to? Its the height of arrogance, IMO.
Too many people find everything offensive. I’m here to fuck, not to get offended over a corny phrase.
Probably the best statement on this thread.
Offensive is probably an automatic stand in for insulting. We can take offense at being insulted, but we don't have to. There are people on this very forum who's sole purpose in life seems to be to find ways to insult other members. But they are such ridiculous creatures, it is hard to actually be offended.
I think it is well intentioned, but can see how it comes across badly. Kind of like 'man-splaining'. It's also not aimed at the 'nice guys'. It is aimed at the assholes. And as mentioned before the assholes will just ignore it. Just giving you my perspective CDL, not saying it is right or wrong. It is a perspective and how a phrase like that can have different interpretations. It can be seen as condescending or polite, depending on the person giving and receiving it.
that someone seems to think that you will mistreat her unless HE tells you not to? Its the height of arrogance, IMO.
... I never really put that much thought into it. To me it's just like a million platitudes and cliches people use everyday.
I have both observed and had direct experiences where “treat her well” has backfired. Because of this, I try to avoid it.
I believe it is important to remember that not all mongers are good guys. Some of them are straight out predators. Many of them are good guys. But there are also some who are in that gray area in the middle.
With predators and people who are in the gray area, I’ve found it best to carefully avoid things that have any resemblance to a trigger. For some rare bad actors there’s just nothing you can do. They will be triggered by the most random seemingly innocuous things.
That said, there seems to be a significant subset of people who take “treat her well” as a negative challenge rather than a positive one. Another well known trigger is the term “pounding”. Some guys simply either don’t know how or have no desire to draw the line between consensual and harmless pounding-like activity and the kind of pounding that will hurt their partner.
My net is this, please take a minute when you are posting a review and try to remember that there inevitably will probably be predators reading your review. Try to not give them something that would trigger a person who gets their jollies from hurting people.
I always took “treat her right” to mean just that, that the hobbyist wants other hobbyists to treat the model “right” aka respectfully. I think it’s a corny phrase to include in a review, and one that’s redundant to boot, but otherwise it’s just a harmless piece of fluff wording as far as I know.
I’ve never seen anyone insinuate that “treat her right” meant that a model is open to BBFS. This is the first I’ve heard of this and I’ve been on plenty of boards that relate to this particular hobby. I think this dude is just reading too deeply into this very innocuous bit of wording. Maybe he’s desperate for some BBFS and is looking for models willing to provide it?
I’ve use that phrase to signal to mongers that they should be on their best behavior because this particular provider is not one that is taking advantage of people and is a genuinely good person. The reality is that some providers are not there with the best of intentions, treat this endeavor as a ATM without putting any effort into providing good service, and deserve to be treated the way they treat others like an object. In other words ”treat her nice” is something you reserve for the highest quality providers so that she does not become jaded due to bad behavior from clients.
But to answer Debra‘s question, it is not a signal for BBFS.
Nothing more that I can add or differs from what has been posted above.
Early in my hobby experience I used that term, but I think I have dropped it for a while.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. "Treat her right" can certainly mean whatever you want it to mean, like obtaining extra services by giving extra tips. But the way I interpret it is pretty literal. It means: "Treat her with human decency, and respect her rules. She's great at what she does, so don't do anything to make her bitter and jaded. We don't want to lose a skilled member of our community."
Not only in this business, but in all aspects of life, some folks will draw a conclusion with which almost NO ONE agrees.... but they're still certain their opinion is the correct one. This guys seems to be one of those. ![]()
Always thought it just meant the guy really liked the girl.
Always thought it just meant the guy really liked the girl.
To me when someone say "Treat her right!" That means do not treat the female/Sex Worker like a piece of shit "Trash". If the people who are seeking sex from those who are know as "Sex Workers", then Sex Workers wouldn't be here. We (The Sex Workers are just as much of a person as anyone else. That's what it means.
Yeah, guys like that are really going to be swayed by some random comment at the end of a review about how good a fuck she is.
Yeah, SURE they are. lol
I mean, if the words of another hobbyist aren't going to sway him, what would??
Oh. Yeah. That's right: NOTHING. ;-P
You are disputing the effectiveness of the message, but not necessarily its intent.
If you wanna talk about intent, let me ask you the following:
If a reviewer has 20 reviews, and in 10 of them he says "treat he right" and in 10 of them he doesn't.
Does it logically follow that his intent in the latter to mean that we should not treat them right? And if it doesn't (I surely hope so), then what is the point of saying it in the former 10?
If you want to talk about intent, let me ask you the following:
If a reviewer has 20 reviews, and in 10 of them he says "treat he right" and in 10 of them he doesn't.
Does it logically follow that his intent in the latter to means that we should NOT treat them right? And if it doesn't (I surely hope so), then what is the point of saying it in the former 10?
You're asking me to read minds. In fact this whole thread is speculation on what someone meant.
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I am merely saying that ineffectiveness of advice does not itself determine intent.
Fair, but my point is redundancy of advice makes it so it's irrelevant.
Imagine you end most of your yelp reviews with "don't defecate on the table and the waitress will reward you"
I mean yes, it is true. It is not saying much though.
To me when someone say "Treat her right!" That means do not treat the female/Sex Worker like a piece of shit "Trash". If the people who are seeking sex from those who are know as "Sex Workers", then Sex Workers wouldn't be here. We (The Sex Workers are just as much of a person as anyone else. That's what it means.
Many, many of us who have responded here with disagreement to the use of the phrase are NOT saying that it's okay to treat women badly, we are we saying that the phrase is completely and utterly useless and unnecessary. It's preachy and it talks down to its audience. Not every review includes "treat her right". As such, your take on its meaning is lost in the reviews that do not have it. A sex worker being just as much a person as anyone else means that every sex worker should be treated right, therefore, it's not necessary to say it about a few of them, it's a given, and doesn't need to be said at all.
What we are saying is that it's just as unnecessary as saying, "pay her the price the two of you agreed on when you made arrangements to see each other". Duh! If many reviews included that gem, it's just as annoying and condescending as the "treat her right" crappola. There are certain things that go without saying.
If providers were to tell each other, "treat this guy right", but it only happens every now and then for a few clients, would that mean If its not said about other clients they can be treated poorly by providers?