Don't know if you saw it but if you have not there is not a wasted minute in the movie.

Providers are not some weird alien species, you know

Yes, the relationship would have the same issues as any other relationship, they are not an alien species, but there are two things that I would find very interesting.   First, one of the things that attracts me to ladies in this line of business is their confidence and the way they own their sexuality - sure, not all, but that is generally so.  That is also not to say that there aren't civvies who own their sexuality, but you get my drift.

Is it your wife that's the bitch? Or is it you, making sure you deserve whatever punishments she doles out?

Then again, he just might go postal. That freak was by far the nuttiest weirdo I've come across in my entire 3 months being on TER.

Your troll posts are really sucking ASS lately. Don't get me wrong Schmucky, I liked your posts because they were entertaining and once in a blue moon you made a few good points. My guess is that the ones that actually made sense weren't intentional on your part? I don't mind a bit of trolling as long as you're either funny or making a valid point. You bitch about providers and talk about how they could do things differently and in that context we have something in common.  However, your posts aren't even making much sense lately and frankly this post was fucking retarded. WTF mang? Get your game back together.

Ok,listen to this shit. I've had some LTR's, and seriously - guys quit wanting to fuck! It is really frustrating, and I now wonder if it really is the woman not having sex with the guy most of the time.

I think though the bottom line is it takes two to make a mess out of a relationship.  Someone always strikes the first blow (hopefully figuratively) but it can snowball with both people rolling downhill at an unstoppable pace.  I think what happens is that most if life is not terribly sexy.  The key to a strong sexual relationship in marriage, at least for me when I had it, was to work at it but have it not seem like work.  

Instead of working on it, both are getting revenge.

You are most likely to be very sadly disappointed when you find out that to "most" hookers a committed relationship is exactly that and "cheating" is not allowed.

Hookers are NOT some alien species and while the odds of finding a hooker that will put up with you fucking everything else in town are admittedly better than with a civvie chick, once you put that ring on her, or tell her you love her like you mean it, all bets are off. and I have dated enough hookers to know what I am talking about here.

One other thing to keep in mind, hookers deal with lying cheating spouses all day, every day, they are experts on the subject. Don't you think that they are going to know almost instinctively the moment you start to stray?

Now if you are talking about an open relationship with a hooker, that's quite a different matter where neither party judges the other for purely physical acts, but when you start talking marriage or anything resembling a committed relationship, your odds of being able to cheat aren't much better than with any other woman.

With one partner, he may not tell us we're sexy all the time. With many many partners, we're almost guaranteed to be called wonderful things on a regular basis. Many people are holding up the weight, and also see us in our sexiest moments, so their praise is at it's peak.

Apparently he also likes to shit on the floors of public bathrooms because he hates janitors for being Mexican, low income, or both.

men don't want to work for it anymore because women let themselves go physically.

your post makes no damn sense.

And more power to him if she's still doing the job. But the last thing I am going to want when I move on is an open relationship, and you're right - my job is banging committed people. I know all the rules that girls set, and I'll be able to tell the signs.

"men don't want to work for it anymore because women let themselves go physically. men don't stray with an older, fatter woman you know. "

1st of all, that's selfish, because a lot of men give up on their physical appearance, which the way they carry themselves has something to do with it.

I don't think that it would necessarily lead to a hall pass, I said it would be nice, a guy can dream right, but it certainly would not be expected.   The point is that they would know who you really are and what you have done, I would find that to be a relief.  Just like I would not care what they have done.

LOL -e

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And NO many ladies in this biz are not crazy! You are a dip shit and you suffer from the Madonna/Whore complex!

I am very open about the fact that I worship my wife.  I am the guy who tells her everyday several times a day how great she looks, that I love her, etc.   I am so expressive that I think sometimes it is overwhelming her for her, she is more the reserved WASPy type.  

Your divorced guy sounds a lot like my Ex, she bitched and complained about everything, and I never measured up to her high standards. To her, the glass was half empty, then she would complain that I didn't initiate sex. Discussions went nowhere because she approached everything from the viewpoint that she was "right" and I was wrong.

it appears as if some people should not be married. it seems as if expectations are not being met for many.

... but I'm a firm believer in monogamy. But I also believe there is no one right or wrong way to go through life; just lbll's way, my way,  Courtney's and on and on.   Relationships are a complicated puzzle. Lots of pieces that need to be put together requiring great patience but usually leading to a pretty beautiful end result - some pieces  look like they should fit but when we try they just don't, some look like a mismatch from the start, and at best a few just click into place like they were waiting for that moment.  That is the art in all of this, I think.

"it appears as if some people should not be married. it seems as if expectations are not being met for many."
   
This is an excellent point, I think.  Two points really.  Yes, there are people who should not be married - that seems irrefutable.  As to expectations not being met, I think that is at the core of a lot, but I think a lot of it has to do with unrealistic expectations.  A television generation grew up watching perfect families, love stories with happy endings, etc.    In many ways life may have gotten easier than in generations past, but I don't think that is true of relationships.   As someone said, they have been hard and they always will be hard.   But making a good living is hard too - does that mean we should stop trying?

I truly wish that I did not do what I do but I find that when I stop, I get cranky after a few months. lol!   I am also a darned flirt and if I don't hobby, my subconscious turns the flirting up a notch and I know that down that path truly lies disaster.

Then why do hookers see the fat and the old and the unattractive then? Because those guys have wives who are not into them BECAUSE they let themselves go too.  

If you're afraid of getting your head bit off for wearing green socks instead of blue, fo sho you will be worried for trying to initiate sex at the wrong time. Which there's a 99% chance with some people that it will be the wrong time, simply because they like you to be wrong.

a loser that posts under an alias.  

I taste like chocolate, so maybe that's why I'm just the dessert. lol.

Now you can be stuck for 80 years if you're lucky, now that life expectancy has quadrupled.

It boggles the shit out of me why anyone would want to do such a thing. Fucking gross.

... the more I want to have dinner and drinks with you

In all seriousness, any guy who tells anybody that he and his buddies don't spend a substantial amount of time talking about women, or drooling over women, is full of it.  The topics in order are: women, sports, portfolio/the economy, work, politics and a disproportionate amount is spent on the first two topics.
 
Relationships with women, and I am not talking about anything dealing with the physical, are so much better, there is more depth.  I think guys have a tough time being real with each other - I try and guess what I get called for it?  A pussy!   The closest I have ever gotten with my male friends to being real with each other is when a couple of them had health issues that scared the beejeezus out of us.

I'm just a guy who pays his dues in and around DC; and who's old enough to know better but young enough to do it anyway

I think we're both ok, even if maybe we're both a little screwed up

I think there's an old song that goes something like 'try to explain the moth and the flame'   Everyone here probably has a little bit of moth in us.   I think we're the ones who were meant to fly close to the fire every now and then.  And thank you; it's all about one day at a time for me these days.

Andrewww is a full blown sociopath. His recent posts on the other site have included:

He needs to pray to Gandy more and repent his sins.

considering everyone here knows who he is and he always gives himself up with every new alias and handle.

What about two people who have mind blowing good oral sex and pretty damned good regular sex who are both admittedly a little pudgy but also still quite good when they get together.  The guy, wants it several times a week or more and has NEVER said no to her.  He brings her flowers weekly, he massages her aches and pains, he listens to her talk about her job, her friends, the kids, the eternal "lists" she makes for "things to do", he cooks for her, he helps with the kids, is drug and alcohol (except for maybe 2-3 beers a week) free.
The woman wants sex only on her terms when she is, "in the mood", no matter how much she is wooed or massaged or complimented or "dated" or made to feel special.  His needs are unimportant to her except during their few times of intimacy.  Then she's gung ho and great.  A few times a minth at most and BJ's more infrequent than that.
How much does a guy have to take of frustration and masturbation before he strays to either a provider or cheats with another woman?  Also, while a bit pudgy, the guy has kept pretty much the same body type from day 1 while the woman gave up on day 2 and has gained 100 lbs and refuses to shave anywhere but her upper lip of her face? Despite the weight and hair, the guy would STILL fuck her rather than stray if only she WOULD!!!

but women dont care about looks right? they just want a man with a sense of humor right? at least that's what they all say in magazine articles..

that  some of my friends and co-workers endure. Almost as if they are TRYING to make the other miserable.

To protect the very fragile male ego. How do you think a trick would feel if he were reviewed and talked about like the hookers are? I care about looks, always have. I am not laying down for free with some fat slob. So keep blaming women and we will keep feeding you a crock.

Oh no, so does this mean the sense of humor thing is a lie too?  

because they are being manipulative not because they are being forced.

that if you're lucky you'll never have a chance to see up close. But if you read enough "how I came into the hobby" stories, you'll get some examples of this other side. And if you stay in the hobby long enough, you might get some clients who are living this other side.

Hmmm...

He's seriously one fked up dude!

SMH...

Steph

handle the emo talk, what I can't handle is a woman crying.  Shit, that sends me running for the hills. lol!

Look for the thread called 'do you exhibit anti-social behavior?' on the second or third page of the 'shitty advice' forum. Andreww posts as 'whatislife'. At least in the thread he admits he is an asshole. Even though he swears he is not gay or racist, on another thread he says he would rather have sex with a male model rather than with a black women.  

I'm a provider who married a client. We were so hot for each other. We had eight phenomenal years and two not-so-good ones. Our split up was amicable and best of all, we already knew each other's dirty little secret.