So direct, intelligent and right on...You are a very smart lady, very impressive....Kudos.....You are always right on the dot......thank you...
Need a little help understanding this one for my over 50 yr old brain. The money tree died and I am surfing CL for a civilian hook up. I know this is crazy but that is the topic of another post.
I get a response from a woman who claims to be a married civilian looking for NSA fun. A series of e-mails follows. I begin to have Deja Vu. The conversation is sounding like one I had several months ago with a provider who uses fake pics. I go back and look at my old e-mails and the providers ad. Word for word the text is the same in many cases. I see on her ad on another excorts site that she is visiting my city at this time. The e-mails from the married civilian woman also claim that she is visiting my city on the very same dates on a business trip.
I am convinced that this proviider is out there on CL responding to ads as if she were a civilian. What does she have to gain by doing this. We are to meet for dinner in a few days. What is she going to do? First of all when I see her it will not be the woman in the pictures she sent me. Is she going to pretend she is someone else, just happened to be at the restaurant looking for fun? Is she going to ask if I am looking for a date. Or did she go thru all this trouble just to get my e-mail address, I did not give out any personal info, name and such. I did not give her my real name either.
your experience sounds like the a similar one that I had. I chatted with a civvie (this is off Match.com) several times and we set a date to meet. The day before our "date", she calls to tell me she is married and does escort work. She then tells me that the pics were also "a little outdated"...... I think she thought that the "little man" would do all my thinking and I would forget about all the phone conversations and that she misrepresented herself. I stated that I was disappointed and did not want to persue a relationship or anything else. She said she would make it up to me and give me the time of my life. I was curioius.....so I did go through with the "date"....but nothing more than drinks, dinner and some interesting conversation. I love to go out for drinks, dinner and good conversation...........so I had fun........and I was home early.
I think she was trying to get you to a place where you wouldn't say no.....and overlook the dishonesty. I have a hard time with people that are dishonest!!! I know times are tough....and this "business" is not what it was..... but it's no excuse to totally misrepresent yourself!!!!!!!!!!!
to have non-provider, NSA fun? Providers do occasionally do such things you know.
But who wants to be the one to find out for sure?
This strikes me as a no-go situation.
I do not believe there much likelyhood of NSA civie sex ever.
A another way of putting it is:
The most expensive sex is "free" sex.
It is HIGHLY doubtful that her presence on this site has anything to do with you PERSONALLY. She could be using that particular venue because CL Adult P4P is no longer active orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Some providers do have very active personal sex lives......she could be on there looking for some great civvie sex.
So direct, intelligent and right on...You are a very smart lady, very impressive....Kudos.....You are always right on the dot......thank you...
since when do women need Craigslist - preferred cyber-stomping-grounds of every wierdo creep with an internet connection - to get laid?
I'm going to go with option A. this chick is trying to run game.
Not really Irish.....many ladies who are providers are also swingers and many of us DO NOT use any photos even remotely related to our provider selves. That would not be smart.....at all.......
and yes she might be running game........
but c'mon...craigslist? You can go anywhere and get laid. And if you REALLY thought you needed the internet to accomplish that, which I can't imagine you do, you would use CL of all places??
Speaking of not smart at all = seeking a random hook up on craigslist. The horror stories are well documented, to the point where CL has become an American icon of tragedy. Everyone knows this.
My point is, even if this chick is the type who seeks out arbitrary sex, which is easily possible, why would she use CL to that end. She'd have aboslutely no need to. She could go to a bar, a club, a friggin' gas station for that matter... a swinger site, or any other venue not so obviously plauged by sick creepy fucks.
So if she is not there for a real date, than she must be there for....
There is another possibility. Perhaps someone other than the lady in question is behind this? OP can't confirm he was speaking to the provider from behind the computer screen. It could be her pimp, or some wacko using her pics and verbiage. Which is not a whole lot better than if it was indeed the provider/married businesswoman who was playing games.
Yes I know there are creeps at those other places, but the difference is they can be sized up as such at those other places and avoided, as opposed to going into it blindly and finding yourself in a situation it's too late to get out of.
Specifically, you are assuming that the woman in question has an IQ higher than room temperature. By definition, half of all people have IQs below the median. There's a 50/50 chance that she's among them.
You are also assuming that the woman in question would wish to avoid "sick creepy fucks." Yet we all have known, at some point in our lives, a woman who just couldn't stay away from the sickest and most debased of individuals. For all we know she might have a fetish for self-degradation through sleeping with sick and creepy men. Don't laugh too hard -- as sad as it is, and as tragic as it is, such women exist.
Either way, I agree she's one to avoid.
I have an occasional civie sex partner. She's someone I've known for a long time and in whose judgment I have confidence. I would never get civie dates on "sick creepy fuck" central; because if the men there are sick and creepy; the women there prefer sick and creepy men and therefore aren't my type.
She could be the type who actually uses Craigs List for her civvie sex life.....I have no clue why she would do that...but she could be doing that.
Lots of people have no clue about formal swinging sites or how easy it is to get action on them.
"Lots of people have no clue about formal swinging sites or how easy it is to get action on them."
Before your inbox blows up with requests for links to those sites, let me help you out with a disclaimer -
"how easy it is to get action on them" applies to couples and single women. Don't get any idea's guys! Single men for the most part, and ESPECIALLY cheating spouses, are the Pariah's of the lifestyle - you'll get NO action. Sorry to crush dreams.
An I.Q. higher than room temperature? Yes, you got me there, I assume most people who can put forth this much effort for the purpose of deception, have an I.Q. higher than room temperature. My thermostat is set at 75...that's pretty fuckin' dumb in translation to I.Q. points. I think that would qualify as "vulnerable adult".
Though I don't know that I.Q. has anything to do with it. There are different kinds of "smart" besides the kind that comes from reading books, and that other kind of smart is the kind she's clearly lacking if this date is "legit". Well, for that matter, even if it isn't.
Where might I find such a lady, who is looking for self-degradation by sleeping with sick and creepy men? Since I multi-task, I'll play both sick AND creepy. It's a safe bet that I could get references for at least one.
But I'm sure if you look hard enough they can be found.
We are not evil masterminds .. sometimes we like to have flings too!
Especially if her other option for dinner is to have room service by herself
Lina
There are many providers on sugar daddy sites, dating sites, CL, BP, etc.
Anywhere a provider can market herself, she will.
No, they are not looking for love. They are looking to make money.
Several years ago I hooked up with a woman on a dating site. We met for lunch had a couple of drinks and I suspected she was a hooker. When I told her I would not pay for sex, the meeting ended rather suddenly.
I had also struck up emails with a supposed civie on CL. I googled her addy, and guess what. Another hooker.
Some enterprise on multiple sites, hence your duplication of emails.
I used to tour a lot and dragging your ass from city to city, hotel to hotel can be stressing and lonely.
Being an well known escort is a problem when we want to troll the dating sites looking for some late night - out of the clock - fun.
We cannot tell the prospective guys that we are escorts, because if they do not partake of this hobby, they will not even respond to our mails.
So we have to 'lie' about ourselves. Saying that we are married, sans hubby and on a business trip ALWAYS works because most guys do have this kind of fantasy.
When I was a single touring Ho (now I am happily married), I used to hunt online for a hot local guy to give me some lovin' after I was done with my clients. I just wanted his dick for few hours, that's it, lol, without any complications.
So, just go with the flow and have some fun too! Even if you know her escort name, do not say a thing! Just enjoy and play along. She just want a booty call, not a relationship with you.
I won't for a moment disparage a provider seeking a "booty call." Hey, I have sex with civies -- so why can't providers?
But what I WILL disparage is using fake pics to do it. The fact she is using fake pics to do it -- AND uses fake pics as well in her professional life -- is a clear indication to me that you shouldn't touch her, even with someone else's 10' pole ... either personally OR professionally. Sorry, but that is a total no-go.
I never posted my real pictures, or anything close to my real self when I was trolling dating sites.
I did post a partial view of a lady with similar looks, because I didn't want hobbyists to find me and try to have some fun with me for free. Or meet someone who would connect the dots.
Booty call is just sex, for one night. If the pics reflects just a resemblance, they are good enough if the lady wants to keep anonymous.
Why post real pictures and accurate information if the guys on those sites are also lying about themselves?
The lady referenced is known to the poster to use fake pics for both civie AND professional purposes. And she is using the same fake pics for both.
So her situation isn't the same as yours. You at least use real pics for professional purposes; and your use of fake for civie purposes is to avoid recognition of your pro persona.
As for your thought "Why post real pictures and accurate information if the guys on those sites are also lying about themselves?" It seems odd to me, but that is perhaps because I'm a bit naive in some ways. I've never used hookup sites and perhaps you are correct that every person on there is a liar; so being honest in such circumstances would constitute unilateral disarmament. In such cases, when essentially dealing with an enemy, preemptive dishonesty is justifiable. What I can't square is why, in civie life, you'd want to have sex with men that you considered so scummy that preemptive dishonesty was justifiable.
Not that I am being at all critical -- it just seriously degrades the credibility for me of statements providers sometimes make about the superior qualities of the men they deal with in civie life.
Found her on the internet? You have to assume that she's a liar and a thief until she proves otherwise.
You might be the last person on Earth that hasn't figured out that CL personals are only used by gay men, clueless newbie swingers, escorts, and spam bots. And you can rate any other "casual sex" site right up there with it.
Women do not need the internet *just* to get laid. Fat, ugly, nasty, hideous, trolls with swamp cunt, can still get laid easier than anything with a cock. The fact that you stumbled upon an escort should not surprise you.
That said, it should be easy to figure out her motivation. She'll try to game you, and if it were me, I'd cause a scene that would make her regret the day she ever thought up such a weak ass scheme. She deserves nothing less for such a pathetic attempt at soliciting your business and ultimately wasting your time. This is like telemarketing only ten times worse.