A variety of threads lately have addressed issues that guys have with providers and vice versa.

I stopped seeing one man because his hygiene was...lacking. When I told him why I couldn't see him anymore, the a-hat called me 12 times a day for a week and texted me 9 times a day asking me to see him again. I blocked him from calling and texting me a few weeks ago (thank goodness!). Another client got way too clingy and needy, getting highly upset when I told him that I didn't want to marry him and have his kids. I was in my late 20's at the time and I had a boyfriend at the time...which he knew about.

Drug issues because they don't become apparent until the girl is getting comfortable -w- the relationship. Tough question though. A girl I'm seeing showed up with her BFs name tattooed darkly on her leg. Her first and only tattoo so far and I don't believe she's been seeing him for more than a month. Previous visit she had a few bruises, said she fell. I really like her a lot and plan on seeing her again but I feel like I will end up letting her go because of this. If that happens I'll talk to her about it so she understands why.

I will pay for pussy

It might have been better just to go on radio silence.

proportional reciprocation on the positive side.

It's hard to make a hard and fast rule in this hobby.

I've even gone back and seen providers who ripped me off because they wooed me back with cock and bull stories of some kind.

I always say "never again", but then I find myself pulled back in.

It's like this songs says:

Even if you have been seeing her longer than her current BF.  

... are:

Honestly unless a hooker really knows what the john wants she is flying blind and can be the brunt no matter what she chooses to do.

For the most part the answers so far have been what the posters will not tolerate. I'm curious as to what sort of bad behavior on the part of providers or customers people here have tolerated at least for a while. For example, have you repeated with a provider who's been very late? Have you repeated with a customer who wasn't clean?  

Sees me every week. I noticed that his hygiene seems to be on the down swing so the last time he visited I insisted he shower and even though he did, I highly doubt he used any soap. His armpits still stunk. So much that I could not lay next to him. I dropped a huge pile of bullshit to avoid getting close or so he would not lift his arms up.  

..and when I do it is not for that long so there is such thing as putting up with anything. Shit has happened on the first appt that really turned me off that I put up with like answering her cell phone or - my fave - sitting back down to finish her bagel and cream cheese after letting me in. I should have bolted right away but you know how it goes.

Is sticking to appointments.  I like to set them up in advance.  I plan ahead and hate getting blown off or made to wait too long when the agreed upon date has been set for days or even weeks in advance.

If the provider is a smoking hot 9 or 10 as well as being a totally uninhibited sexual freak for $200/h I'm likely to tolerate MUCH MORE than if she is an 8 or less in "appearance" with a decidedly more conservative "services" menu at $300/h or more.

There is no reason in this Hobby to tolerate anything that upsets you. This is suppose to be fun for both sides. If there is no chemistry, MOVE ON. Neither the Hobbyist or the provider need to be in a situation that makes them unhappy. A provider might for the money. But a Hobbyist can move on to the next one. And the next one. Until he finds the right fit

I put up with more than I would IRL BECAUSE of the money but even I have a line I will not cross and that line differs with whatever the negative stimulus is. Sometimes it is a very short distance to that line and others, it is but a millimeter from that line.

tardiness, unreasonable limits, time wasting,  and especially non representative pictures -  nope.

At your 64+ years of age? I shudder to think what that "free love" looks like.

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you've over estimated my age just a bit - but I could easily pass for 45 - 50 -   clean living I guess :p    

perhaps he would want for you to really enjoy it but nonetheless it is a service as you so often acknowledge, which has been paid for, which as you so often also acknowledge is your primary motivation...

sounds a bit as though you are being taken for granted....

You served in Viet Nam from 1968 to 1972. That makes you at least 64, unless you dropped out of school early and had permission from your parents to enlist. I don't know many multi-millionaires who are high school dropouts, though. I don't know any multi-milliionaire high school dropouts with 35 year-old Czech pageant girl GF's.

and I find myself overcome by circumstances.

But in retrospect, how bad were my woes compared to some incredible memories?

The worst of it isn't the financial hit.  Some of them were bad (I'd be bull whipped if I ever revealed the amount.)  The worst part was the feeling of disappointment and let down, not to mention my own feeling of anger at myself for being suckered so badly.  (Drugs were involved in at least one case, which did not surprise me.)

But fate has a funny way of eventually working out.  Just recently a gal that had burned me somewhat badly and wanted to get together just for a dinner to reminisce.  My left brain (That's the logic side.) said forget it.  My right brain said what the hell, give it a shot.  (You can probably imagine what the little brain was saying.)  So, I went for it.  And guess what?   I ended up staying the night with her and had one of the nicest nights of my life.  So, go figure.  (Yup, we have another date planned.)

I try to console myself with this aphorism:

It's better to regret something you did rather than something you didn't do.

I also look back at those wonderful times when everything worked out wonderfully.

And then I look to the future with hope.

I never monger on a really tight schedule, so if she needs an extra 30 mins/hour/whatever, then as long as she's communicative about it, I'm never one to lose my shit over a last minute delay. Also, as long as she's showered, I don't put much stock in how snazzed up she is - sometimes I'm more turned on by how she looks dressed down than dressed up (just out of the shower, wrapped in towels is HOT!).  A couple of times I've gotten a "disinterested" greeting, but in those cases I just invest in some extra "get to know her" time and they've all turned out well.  

Sounds like she has already made her choice.

Not that I like to put labels on behavior... I guess as long as the both of you is having fun and growing from the experience...

Regardless of the fact that we're paid, it isn't always prudent for us to explain basic things like how to shower (WITH soap), how to not push boundaries, basic manners, etc. Personally, I'm not a mother (nor do I intend to be...ever), so it's not in my job description to teach guys how to act like adults. If a guy is capable of paying for sex, yet incapable of meeting basic standards in terms of things like hygiene or politeness, then that is indicative of issues that I for one am not equipped to deal with.  

Just having a good time does not mean I am going to repeat.  Variety is the spice of life.

you said "65+" -   and I'm only 64 :p     reminds me of the old Beatles song.....

completely agree that you should not have to be a surrogate mother....

And since neither of these two lsdies appear to have the slightest interest in you biz why don't you quit telling them how to run their biz (aka giving better service).

And I don't think this is a "common service". And Tobi's analogy was just fine and makes perfect sense.

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I'm not sure if my response was an assumption of the situation

The answer to this is easy -- for the provider and customer both -- stop if the experience is not totally pleasant -- all the stuff we read about -- the basic purpose is pleasure, and if something makes it less than perfect that's OK as long as the end result is not just tolerable but really bracing, on up to mind blowing.  If not, move on...

to you I assume since we would not be seeing one another -

Seeing as I am not a blowup doll I do have the right to stop or refuse anything that is painful or uncomfortable.  That does not mean there is no quality service, it means I have good clear boundaries and stick to them.  

If it hurts it stops...not that bloody hard to understand for the rest..only you.

Into everyone's head how you like a provider to fuck. Not to mention that there are other guys out there who don;t want that and need something else and then accusing the ladies that don;t do what you feel they should of being time wasters with their GFE choreography.

Is not considered refusing quality service?

As I said I don't know how you get "your companion is ending her relationship with you" from my post. Nothing in your original reply was indicated in my post. She called wanting to see me several days ago (4 days after our last visit) and I turned her down for reasons not related to this topic.  

And you are correct I'm fairly polite and reasonable.

I rarely comment on your posts so stop with the me not giving "anything" you say a fair shake.  And I see your posts for exactly what they are...

YOU expect all of the guys to think like you do, when in fact most don't-thank goodness.

As far as me being "HOs before bros" that's comical since I seem to get along ok with quite a few of the bros here.

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Saying something negative right after it...or condescending and superior sounding.

"Easily pass for 45-50"...GF is a former pageant girl and nude model from the Czech Republic and is 35"...blah blah BLAH.

See here's what you don't get...those who REALLY have it going on DO NOT have to say a thing about it and DON'T. See, I don't know or care if what you say about YOURSELF is true, it's the fact that you continually broadcast it, and ALWAYS have to get a plug in about your cock size.

And it's not just the ladies here that find it repulsive, it's some of the men too and I'm sure quite a few of the guys just say nothing about it.

Nuff said!

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If a handful of hookers on this board all find you rather reprehensible, maybe it's because of the things you say and not because we've formed some silly little alliance against you?

Exactly what I was suggesting....   but from many of your posts you seemed to be suggesting that you would simply cut someone off if it was not to your liking....

If you're talking about us telling guys to not pound us to the point of calluses in our vaginas, then I would be astounded to hear that that's something that you find acceptable given your posting history.  

Posted By: MarkusKetterman

completely agree that you should not have to be a surrogate mother....  
   
 but we were discussing things done sexually that were not done to the provider's liking - sufficiently so as to be annoying or to cause a denial of service....  
   
 it might be that the john du jour might not actually *listen*    
   
 (I've certainly had providers not listen  
   
 but it seems that instead of denying or withholding a common service it would be worth the effort to give some direction....  
   
 is it strictly 'a part of the service' ?  
   
 perhaps not to some -  
   
 but you would be giving better service and doing others a favor as well.....

Within limits, I always want the truth. I don't want a fake O. Well, not often anyway. Fake O's can be fun, too. There's this one girl I know.. Sorry. That's another topic.

If the guy does not then I refuse to see him after that. No means no and if he is to stupid to understand the meaning of a two letter, one syllable word, I am not spending anymore alone time with him...too unsafe. So if that is cutting them off, then so be it.

A secure individual never has to constantly remind the audience of his or her looks, money, abilities etc., they let those things speak for themselves.  

there are real reasons for limitations of "service" -   YMMV factors if you will - that have to do with the gentleman being -

I have said in this thread that "my liking" has nothing to do with it. It is about him and the only reason I will STOP/Halt/Suspend the action is when it is painful or irritating. My pleasure is a non issue, you know that.  I give so many clues the guy would have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to get it.