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Provider goes ape shit crazy when a gentle innocent potential client like me
BadMotherfucker 3017 reads
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suggested a slightly different price for a fetish service.  I was not negotiating her standard rate, it was for something else. In fact, I wasn't negotiating at all. I asked once and never even haggled.  

I was polite, gentle, and well-mannered when I asked her. I wasn't rude or disrespectful in anyway whatsoever but she literally blows up and goes bat shit crazy on me for even asking that. It was unwarranted, excessive, and extreme.  

So I booked a different girl purely on general principle. The first girl was a huge turn off and walking into a session knowing that we didn't start off on the right foot wouldn't have given me an erection anyway. She had shattered the fantasy and considering that men are partly paying for the GFE fantasy, it was pointless for me even though later she apologized for her erratic and unstable behavior. A little too much GFE too early on.

I'm just so glad there are many other girls giving me plenty of options when something like this happens. Maybe I will see her when there are no other better suitors in the area but that could take a few months to a few years. *wink* *wink*

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1335 reads
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2 / 35

In seriousness, in order to reply, there need to be more details. I.e. A parallel this vs.that.  

Example: "She sells twelve bananas in a bunch, but I only needed eight." versus "I only wanted her to pee on me. No sex."

But if in an email, granted you have never seen her, you said "I only want to lick your toes. Can I have a different price since no actual sex is involved?" Well, now you've put her in a situation where she, in writing, admits that she sells sex at a higher price.  

You may have freaked her out. But them again, I'm guessing because there is no way to measure anything.

-- Modified on 5/6/2014 9:01:28 PM

ValuedCustomer 1373 reads
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BadMotherfucker 1138 reads
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4 / 35

She wanted a whole lot more than what most other girls charge for the same service. I thought it was not an unreasonable request on my part since other girls charge the price I offered.  Also, I only asked ONCE.  

It wasn't even considered haggling because that was all I ever wrote. Yet, she responds to me with a nasty gram. I honestly thought she might have taken heroin, meth, or some other mind altering drug when she responded like that.

JackDunphy 1308 reads
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5 / 35

Let's be honest about that part. Don't get me wrong, I am alright with negotiating in certain cases (i.e. longer term sessions) but it doesn't sound like you handled this well.

My suggestion would have been to ask her if she even does fetish work. Based on that response, I would have asked her if it is the same rate as her GFE/PSE service (or however she describes herself) if it's not spelled out on her website/ad.

Are you aware that many, if not most, of the girls charge MORE for fetish stuff? Yup.

Now, that doesn't mean she handled this well either, but she's not here to defend herself, so start off looking in the mirror b4 you cast aspersions.

kendallis See my TER Reviews 1217 reads
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6 / 35

It is obvious you are pissed off.  Does this provider have many positive reviews?
Perhaps she has had guys haggling her all day or all week and she has had enough.

IDK, I agree more info is needed. I suspect her story/viewpoint would be different.
OR
you should consider yourself lucky that you dodged a bullet cause she is a looney toon.

To her though your offer was obviously SOMETHING that pissed her off.

Sorry, hope your venting helps you.  Curious, are you sure you're just not angry that  
she didn't accept your offer?

Honestly, I have been offended by what guys offer. You can't imagine how many guys
bother us offering us half or less than half our lowest rate/service.

There always are two sides to every story, then there's the truth!
One may never know....

Hopefully your pecker will do some better picking next time.

tinhobbyist 45 Reviews 1202 reads
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7 / 35

I have to say that if you knew her price and tried to ask for a lower price, shame on you. Don't ask for a lower price. If you can't afford or do t wish to pay her stated price, just don't see her. That is all.  

Posted By: BadMotherfucker
She wanted a whole lot more than what most other girls charge for the same service. I thought it was not an unreasonable request on my part since other girls charge the price I offered.  Also, I only asked ONCE.  
   
 It wasn't even considered haggling because that was all I ever wrote. Yet, she responds to me with a nasty gram. I honestly thought she might have taken heroin, meth, or some other mind altering drug when she responded like that.  

SolaLove See my TER Reviews 1720 reads
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8 / 35

Other girls offer the same service for less?  Then see them.

Many ladies *will* be highly offended if you offer less than their rate, based on comparisons to other ladies.  Essentially you introduced yourself by telling the lady you did not feel she was worth what she asks.  Trust me, if a lady want to charge what some other ladies do, she will.

Personally I just wouldn't respond, no need to be nasty.  Unless you caught me on a really bad day... in which case I do sometimes get a case of snarkey-ness...
 
Posted By: BadMotherfucker
She wanted a whole lot more than what most other girls charge for the same service. I thought it was not an unreasonable request on my part since other girls charge the price I offered.  Also, I only asked ONCE.  
   
 It wasn't even considered haggling because that was all I ever wrote. Yet, she responds to me with a nasty gram. I honestly thought she might have taken heroin, meth, or some other mind altering drug when she responded like that.  

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 1712 reads
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9 / 35

If anything ask, "do you have a fetish rate?"
And odds are, it's higher.

If you're looking for something specific and have a specific budget - post an ISO. She will come to you, if she exists.

Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 1137 reads
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10 / 35

Dear Sola:
Although you are a cerebral cutie, remember it is not in your best interest to give up the bargain basement booty.  However, it is your job to get fair market share to for your wonderful derriere.  This was covered in your ass economic's class.  

Posted By: SolaLove
Posted By: Other girls offer the same service for less?  Then see them.  
   
 Many ladies *will* be highly offended if you offer less than their rate, based on comparisons to other ladies.  Essentially you introduced yourself by telling the lady you did not feel she was worth what she asks.  Trust me, if a lady want to charge what some other ladies do, she will.  
   
 Personally I just wouldn't respond, no need to be nasty.  Unless you caught me on a really bad day... in which case I do sometimes get a case of snarkey-ness...  
   
   
Posted By: BadMotherfucker
She wanted a whole lot more than what most other girls charge for the same service. I thought it was not an unreasonable request on my part since other girls charge the price I offered.  Also, I only asked ONCE.    
     
  It wasn't even considered haggling because that was all I ever wrote. Yet, she responds to me with a nasty gram. I honestly thought she might have taken heroin, meth, or some other mind altering drug when she responded like that.  

AnotherDonJohn 1222 reads
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11 / 35

You offered a number, knowing hers would likely be higher.
Vs. asking "how much is your fee for x?"- granted, this is a hypothetical since only a newbie doesn't know it is tricky to ask something like this without ever meeting.  

That said, it's never cool/ professional to blow up in business correspondence.
Posted By: BadMotherfucker
She wanted a whole lot more than what most other girls charge for the same service. I thought it was not an unreasonable request on my part since other girls charge the price I offered.  Also, I only asked ONCE.  
   
 It wasn't even considered haggling because that was all I ever wrote. Yet, she responds to me with a nasty gram. I honestly thought she might have taken heroin, meth, or some other mind altering drug when she responded like that.  

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1277 reads
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12 / 35

Worst thing to even suggest to a woman, especially if you're about to have sex with her. "You think you're worth this, but I think you're worth less"

It doesn't matter if you only ask one half time lol. Women will hear "She charges lower"as "You're not worth..."  

Also, This isn't "Guaranteed lowest price!" haha.

Why get 30 inquiries at a lower price every week when we only want to see one or two? Raise the rates to a certain level, and it slows the email down. And usually only results in people who agree with the price at that range.

Don't do it again. Just move on lol.

-- Modified on 5/7/2014 5:51:03 AM

mrfisher 111 Reviews 1460 reads
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13 / 35

Normally it is protection against LE, but this indicates another good reason.

Follow the rules, and you won't get burnt.

hbyist+truth=;( 878 reads
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14 / 35

But completely fucking unnecessary, just saying.  

However if you felt her pricing SHOULD be commensurate with what most hookers charge and mentioned that, after knowing her fee, you did, in effect, at the very least renegotiate. That, for some hookers is like waving a red flag at a bull and you got one of those.

 
Lesson from this, either pay what your hooker asks, or renegotiate and risk this happening or go see the hookers that charge what you feel is okay for said service.  

You feel her behavior was uncalled for, well she thought you lowballing her rate was uncalled for.  

You are here wanting some sort of validation from fellow mongers, or for them to pile on to make you feel better. I call that crazy and what drugs are you taking? See how this can be viewed?

hbyist+truth=;( 830 reads
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15 / 35

Quit being so decent. I like you more when you're a dick. Just kidding, I like this side too. ;

GaGambler 961 reads
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16 / 35

and your opinion is the same as mine as well.

To tell the truth BMF didn't really give us enough information for us to really judge one way or the other, but most likely he did that on purpose as the entire story most likely would not support his argument that she is BSC

The facts that we do know is that she offered a "service for a price" he countered with a different price, she took issue with this and he now claims "he was not negotiating"

Whether one supports negotiating with a hooker or not, the fact does remain that he did negotiate with her, or at least he tried to. Until the OP can at least be honest about that part of the equation, I can't bring myself to jump on his bandwagon, but I am glad he ended up finding what he was looking for.

As for her going either Ape Shit, or Bat shit crazy on him, well some hookers aren't too well balanced, this is true. but I've read some of the downright nasty shit that johns have written when they don't get their way, so I'll reserve judgment on that part of it as well, unless and until I see exactly what she said.

JackDunphy 965 reads
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17 / 35

Do you have any idea how hard it is to be a HCH every minute of every day?  

Its fkin exhausting having to go thru each and every mangina & BSC hooker post and set these dumbasses straight.  

It took me how many posts just to smack down WB for being ignorant and naïve? Lots of dip shits here so my work will never truly be done.

To be the d*ck you expect me to be, and need me to be, I need to recharge the batteries every now and then. Let me put it in terms you would understand.  

A whore needs a day off every few months off from fkin her 10-12 tricks per day. Right?  

Exactly.

BadMotherfucker 959 reads
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18 / 35

And the girl in question lost a potential client after her rude behavior. :)

BadMotherfucker 1227 reads
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19 / 35

And the girl in question lost a potential client after her rude behavior. :)

FoxyNC See my TER Reviews 839 reads
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21 / 35

See, you wanted "ABC" for XX, and she does "ABC" for "XXXX"-  
Which you are unwilling/unable to pay.
Therefor, you are not and would not be her customer.

 
You wanna buy a Mercedes, but only want to pay $$$,  
she has a mercedes for sell for $$$$$ FIRM..
You negotiate, she says NO and rudely (justifiably.)

You weren't her customer anyways... You didn't want to pay the price.

Just saying... Facts.

 
Unless, you WOULD have paid it, and negotiate just to be a CB... #sigh... but that's a horse of another color, now isn't it.

Noone wants to deal with customers like that.
The loss is not hers.

Dr Who revived 963 reads
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22 / 35

There are many out in the marketplace that will deal with customers like that.

Maybe not you, or the gal in the OP's story.

But there's no shortage of people who routinely negotiate their services or wares.

Perhaps in this case he just missed the day when she needed some cash to pay her rent.  Timing can be everything  LOL
Posted By: FoxyNC
See, you wanted "ABC" for XX, and she does "ABC" for "XXXX"-  
 Which you are unwilling/unable to pay.  
 Therefor, you are not and would not be her customer.  
   
   
 You wanna buy a Mercedes, but only want to pay $$$,  
 she has a mercedes for sell for $$$$$ FIRM..  
 You negotiate, she says NO and rudely (justifiably.)  
   
 You weren't her customer anyways... You didn't want to pay the price.  
   
 Just saying... Facts.  
   
   
 Unless, you WOULD have paid it, and negotiate just to be a CB... #sigh... but that's a horse of another color, now isn't it.  
   
 Noone wants to deal with customers like that.  
 The loss is not hers.

GaGambler 916 reads
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23 / 35

It happens at the very highest and very lowest kind of transactions. Whether it haggling over a fifty cent bracelet in a Mexican Flea market or negotiating a multi billion dollar merger on Wall St., negotiation is a fact of life whether hookers want to admit it or not.

Where most of us took exception with the OP is his denial that he was indeed negotiating in the first place. He claimed he was not, the rest of us called Bullshit. Please don't confuse that as a tacit acceptance of the hooker commandment "thou shalt not negotiate"

I don't know for a fact whether or not she needlessly went ape shit over this or if the OP was exaggerating, his credibility is a bit suspect, but if he is telling the truth about that, and he may very well be telling the truth, I would have to agree with him that she could have handled it much better and that it probably was "her loss"

Speaking strictly for myself, and first stating that I don't haggle hooker rates here in the US, I avoid like the plague Hookers that go BSC over the very mention of negotiating. Now please don't misread me. I don't avoid hookers that state their prices are firm, who I avoid are the self absorbed, "my shit don't stink" hookers who go Bat Shit Crazy over the very word "negotiate"

I don't like inflexible people, I negotiate in my business all the time and if I can deal with people "insulting" me by offering to do business with me at a price where I would suffer a multi million dollar loss, forgive me I don't want  to hang some guy for offering some hooker a hundred bucks less than what she is asking for.

JackDunphy 1036 reads
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24 / 35

I get it to a degree with the gals. They perceive a loss of income so at least they have some financial stake at risk.

But the fkin johns here? Guys who go ape about the mere mention of a negotiated fee? Wtf is THAT all about?  

Christ, if another monger can get a piece of tail at a reduced cost and he doesn't perceive any less service from the gal, why would any other guy give a fk? And the "holier than thou" mantra they throw out here.

That bullshit is WAY worse than the girls spouting that stuff.

hbyist+truth=;( 769 reads
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hbyist+truth=;( 1209 reads
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You lost her when you haggled.

hbyist+truth=;( 818 reads
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27 / 35

I get your point and do not disagree with negotiating.   Some guys don't bother and some ladies don't like it.  

She didn't miss out on anything except maybe dealing with someone who, in her mind, devalued her from the start. If she really wanted his business she might have negotiated, clearly she didn't give two gobs of goat shit about him or his money.

And yes I will support that timing is a factor for SOME ladies.

Dr Who revived 1200 reads
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28 / 35

Because YOU/I get a deal with a gal...then those guys who don't ask for "the deal" have to listen to her cry that her rent is overdue...and they'll give her a tip on top of everything.

Yeah...guys worrying about what anyone else pays is no different than the busybodies in an office wanting to know about YOUR bonus (salary, et al).

It's none of anyone's business.
Posted By: JackDunphy
I get it to a degree with the gals. They perceive a loss of income so at least they have some financial stake at risk.  
   
 But the fkin johns here? Guys who go ape about the mere mention of a negotiated fee? Wtf is THAT all about?  
   
 Christ, if another monger can get a piece of tail at a reduced cost and he doesn't perceive any less service from the gal, why would any other guy give a fk? And the "holier than thou" mantra they throw out here.  
   
 That bullshit is WAY worse than the girls spouting that stuff.

hbyist+truth=;( 1262 reads
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You know I like both sides, I was just yanking your chain. You being a dick and me being a MHB is hard work. We need breaks just like anyone.

GaGambler 1233 reads
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30 / 35

Most of these guys have been so browbeaten by years or even decades of sexless marriages, they are simply used to blindly following the orders of women. I mean look at some of the manginas on this and every fuck board you have ever been on. Some of these guys can't even fake having a set of balls on an anonymous internet board.

The guys that support "no negotiating" not just as a personal choice but as one of the many "commandments" of hookerdom are the very same guys that fall in love with hookers that could care less about them, suck up to every provider on the board, and constantly try to "out gentleman" every other spineless wimp who claims to worship any woman who will suck a dick for money.

hbyist+truth=;( 869 reads
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Here's my personal commandments.

1. Thou shalt not arrive stinky
2. Thou shalt pay up first or no hokey pokey in the pussy
3. If thee negotiate, expect a re-negotiation
4. Thou shalt not be rough or aggressive unless thee want thy foot up thine ass.
5. If thee in need of a hooker who can fuck for an entire hour, thee might want to look elsewhere. Sprinter               or middle distance, definitely not marathon.

I have no problem being asked anything. Just be prepared for an answer you might not like

BadMotherfucker 1258 reads
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Way too many other hookers willing to take my money. ;)

hbyist+truth=;( 893 reads
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hbyist+truth=;( 1142 reads
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Just like she has many tricks to choose from. We ALL have choices, tricks and hookers.

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