...what is your biggest fear? You won't be attracted to her? You'll be upsold? What's your main concern?

That is what happens when meeting a new provider.

Im an optimist.

I never try to negotiate the donation. I always know before the session exactly what the lady's donation is. But nothing will take away the feeling more or faster than being upsold. If the lady needs more for anything it should be on her website, so we can both forget about and have no need to discuss money.

The biggest fear is that her attitude may disappoint you or she may not resemble her pictures or the image you built about her in your own mind. In such a case, you want to rush through the sessions and run.

You don't really have anything to fear.  Yes, there is the tingle of not knowing exactly what she'll look like or exactly how she'll behave.  But if you've done your homework, you have a very good idea.  You've read her reviews.  You've seen her pictures.  You've PM'd some of her reviewers.  If you know other girls who know her, they've filled in the blanks.  This is not rocket science.  So there is nothing to fear.  Only to anticipate.
Unless, that is, you are seeing a BP girl with no reviews...

That "she" turns out to be a "he". LOL! No seriously, my biggest fear is that she is having a bad day...tired...maybe sick...and just isnt "into it" that time & day.

For the most part you will meet "pros" but you never know if her incall has a bone to pick with her and they decide to call LE while you're there w/her. Also, that she misuses your personal information and months from now you end up on the news like all those guys that had something to do with the Zumba instructor!

because she wasn't the one in the picture or gained 30 llbs without saying anything.  I'll leave, if I'm deceived.  Also, is it a criminal trap. Not le, but her desperate bf the pimp.  Even TER upscale $600+ have them and there price and looks have nothing to do with their financial habits.

is that she won't be the woman you saw in pictures? Or she will be the same woman but has gained 30 LB's without saying anything? Or, meeting her might be a criminal trap---not LE but her desperate BF, the PIMP?

Good god, how do you go about scheduling appts?

I assume you do realize TER is a review site? That means YOU can read reviews from others, of any provider you want to see, that will tell you whether she is posting deceptive pics, or 30LB's bigger than advertised, or has a scary pimp waiting in the wings.

... for me.

Frist, is the provider going to live up to her reviews / ratings?

Will there be chemistry between us?

Serpius

1) that she is LE;
2) that she up sells you;
3) that she is NOT full service/GFE; and,
4) that she has a BAD attitude.

I know some guys may not be the epitome of a gentleman and that may sour some ladies, but I suspect most of us are gentlemen and want to satisfy and be satisfied. Still looking for a totally fantastic experience in Palm Springs!

he said it best..you have nothing to fear but fear itself..

Next stupid question.  There are only 36 days left for winning stupidest question of the year. Why are you on this board? You sound like a 3rd grader!

That can mean anything from:

1.  She doesn't look like the girl in the pictures.

2.  The session is not as advertised or described in reviews.

Basically, everything and anything the review database is supposed to answer for you.

It's usually just a question of whether we'll enjoy each other enough to want to schedule another appointment that last longer than the first.

Getting busted is the only thing I'm worried about.  Everything else is manageable.  And there's no way to completely eliminate that risk, even if you're on P411, read reviews, etc.  My ATF likes to tease me about our first session, when I walked into her incall, said hello, then pretty much ignored her while i looked over her room & glanced into her bathroom.

"I was wondering who you were looking for" she says, lol. --z

Just so we're clear, I'm a provider with the mentality of a 3rd grader who should win stupidest question of the year because I'm a curious person who wants to ease the fears of my clients?

Geez, I can't wait to hang out here more often. Thanks for the kind words.

I may be anxious (a good thing) but never afraid.

but don't trust them...or do you feel that since her last review, everything is not as it was?

This is not aimed directly at you CS, more of a general stream...from what I have read here and elsewhere, some guys stare at web images for a quite a while, some over a year or more and build up a "relationship" with the lady of their desire, in other words they already have this idea based on nothing but images and their vivid imagination of what the session and the lady will be like.

That much expectation is sure to breed disappointment and the lady in question has no idea what she has to live up to. And let's not forget YMMV. What some guys will never understand is that a review is a general idea of what might be possible given all things good in the attitude, hygiene and whatever other department you can think of.

The review database is not a guarantee of anything for you..if you have not even met her.

Some providers can be pretty and sexy in picture, but if she does not create the rapport and does not have the sensuality to get me going ... it's not gonna work well.

It is something to be considered, but hardly gospel.  You gotta understand who the reviewers are, and discount the ones that give 9s and 10s to everyone, or you gotta find the reviewers that share your tastes.

Point is...I do trust the reviews for most of the info.  And the question of the OP was...what is your fear?  Well, the fear is very simple:  Everything that the review database is about.  Which is why I look at reviews and do my due diligence.

If my post came across as...I don't trust the reviews, then I articulated myself poorly.  The very things I am concerned about are what the review database actually addresses.

Or who isn't reviewed at all...

Just sayin'.

At my age I need to make a check list and be sure that I have every thing I need before I go out:

Envelope
massage oil
address
cell phone
fly zipped up

It goes on and on.

Or is it that you are annoyed that I can comment and not have the wrath of the hobby world attack anything and everything about me? Listen, half the guys on here don't give out their handle or anything related to their board presence when they book, why is it such a crime that I live and work under the same level of anonymity?

Don't worry, none of you are ever going to run into me so you need not fear.

Right now my biggest fear is that my landlord will see or hear her, lol.

It has happened to me.  The envelope has been delivered and the fun is ready to begin, and then the lady announces "rules" that were not in the reviews or her website.

I find I check my fly at least 10 times per day. Once or twice a week it's down........

I figured my response would make you defensive, because it inevitably does.

I don't get annoyed with you.  You and I don't mesh or click, and if you were Kate Upton herself, there's no way I would see you.  You and I are just like oil and water.  And that's fine.

..we have had our battles and I really don't take what anyone says on this board personally.

I have no reviews?...none that you can see and that does not mean I don't have any. Plenty of hobbyists have opinions on how we do our job...and they are not escorts, so how me having or not having reviews precludes me from commenting on them is moot.

























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Had that happen twice this week. Looks like too many fake reviews. We may need to start vetting the reviewers.

That in no way invalidates what you say or your opinion, but it does make you out to be, well, suspect in many ways.

But don't worry...I don't have any inkling of even wanting to find out more about you.  Carry on.

everybody i meet is good looking and ready to get it on.  however i never know if a girl is going to be a courtesan and attend to my needs with focus and affection, or just a girl that will spread 'em for a white envelope.

would rather have a play date between two people enjoying each other than a series of holes to stick it into.  chemistry is a big factor.

recently saw 2 ladies in a row that were just there to pick up the envelope and let me poke em, w/o real attention to me.  wasted a couple thou for nothin...

Thanks for that mental image Clarence.  I'm off to pour bleach through my ear canal in hopes it reaches my brain.

We can all use aliases and the guys do not have to reveal to any escort who they really are when booking. Does that make them somehow suspect or hiding who or what they really are? I would say they are way more suspect especially if they show a distinct negative attitude towards the ladies on the board. The same way you feel about me...I have no problem being in that camp, however I don't see you or anyone much else asking them to reveal who they are here or anywhere else.

Oh and keep mentioning in just about every post you are not interested in seeing me...who are trying to convince me...or yourself?

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i would be meeting a provider with no reviews or from BP. Because if one has done there homework, they'll know what is pretty much expected. Most providers websites have an edicate discloser that they want you to read before you meet. So no fear as long as i've done my homework.

Plus the fact that you have a husband who knows you get paid to fuck other guys...creepy.

Reviews does not mean she isn't forced by some outside source. There was a very well reviewed lady from New Mexico on this very board that turned out to be involved in such stuff. I know a lady that was trafficked. It messed her up. Trafficking is real. The odds are small but no where near zero.

My biggest worry is that I may meat up with such a lady and not knowingly cause her harm. Or I figure it out, have to take actions to help her, fail in some way and make things worse. Again I do screen to try to make sure the lady is there by choice not force. Most ladies are not trafficked or have a guy truly pimping her with threats, leverage, or violence. Odds are I will avoid such things by keeping an eye out, but they are out there.

In short my biggest fear is contributing to anthers victimization. LE, theft, cons, personal harm, STD's, upsell, B&S, blackmailers, outing, violence on my person, BSC ladies and all the other bad things are secondary, although getting my wife sick isn't far behind.

Ever get a mental image of your own conception?

We'd all like to think it was a tender and loving moment between two dedicated parents-to-be...

nobody wants to picture dad on his back with a ball gag in his mouth, mom on top riding him like a rented pony, whacking his ass with the riding crop and shouting "take me home, baby, take me home".

And I now I have a husband? You think that's creepy that my GIRLFRIEND knows I do this? But not creepy that a large percentage of your fellow hobbyists have wives they're lying to?

Crazy Shit or whatever your name is behind that alias...you don't like me because you don't understand me.

I have certain standards, not unlike a hobbyist . I will see certain men, like a hobbyist sees certain women. I won't put up shit from hobbyists, not unlike a hobbyist refuses to deal with certain shit from escorts.

I could go on but hopefully you get the picture. Where it falls apart is I am on a hobbyist fk board and my diametrically opposing views rankle the masses.

You (general you that is) possibly feel that I feel superior because I won't see hobbyists. Superiority no, I just can't bring myself do do it from what I have read here and from the limited experience I have had a long time ago. That is a choice not an air of superiority.

I do not want to fight with or anybody for that matter. We can just agree to disagree.



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No one can tell whether you are male or female, hobbyist/client or provider.  Or just a strange bird all around.  And truthfully, I don't care.  I find you entertaining and generally quite articulate.  Doesn't mean I always agree or disagree with you.  I do find that you get way too defensive, way too easily.  But that's part of your charm, I guess.

If you don't have a husband, I stand corrected, but for some reason I think you did.  I think you mentioned in another post that you actually have a SO that knows you do this, so I'm guessing you are a lesbian and have a girlfriend.  Great.

I think it's creepy when someone is involved in a very serious relationship (husband and wife), and I end up seeing the wife.  It's just weird.  Call me old-fashioned, but if I had a girlfriend or someone serious, I wouldn't be doing this.  No judgment on those who do it at all (I never have judged anyone for his/her choices), but, yes, it is weird for me when I know there is someone on the other side.  I just would rather not know it.

I don't understand you, true.  But that doesn't mean I dislike you.  I just think you are...strange.

Nothing you say rankles me at all.  You are who you are.  You just get really, really defensive, and that's a fact.  And I find that...entertaining.

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If I know about it, I won't see her.

Simple as that...just keep it to yourself.  And, for fuck's sake, if you do have one, don't mention it on a board.

..it's the fact that you (collective) can't label me. You seem somewhat intelligent so I can't understand why you feel I am defensive. I have a fucking blast on here. Please re-read some of your posts, some might say they are a tad defensive. But if you feel the burning need to label me something (defensive) I am glad it works for you. I laugh my ass of at most of the crap posted on here. I come here for entertainment and to see what I am not missing. Sorry if that does doe jibe with your view of how and why an escort should act on here. I never have been one to conform because a couple of loud people keep demanding I do.

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I could care less about who or what you are.  It doesn't really bother me one way or the other.  I do find it humorous and amusing only inasmuch as you are very outspoken about certain issues here, but at the same time are diehard and steadfast about being as enigmatic as possible.  And that's fine.

I really could care less; you are just a fun being/personality to interact with on this board...nothing more, nothing less.  I like interacting with you on this board, and I have to admit that a certain sadistic side of me comes out when I know that a topic will elicit a heated response from you.  So I poke the animal in the cage, figuratively speaking.

Perhaps the tone of my posts isn't captured well here.  Talk with London.  She had a totally different read on me before we talked on the phone.  Now she knows I am a total sarcastic son of a bitch.  I just don't give a shit enough to get into posting emoticons and all that.  I'm direct in an Ari Gold kinda way.  I just say what I feel, that's all.  I don't get into board politics; this is a venue for me to talk about this hobby, that's all.

It's the same reason why I get amused watching shows like "Breaking Bad" or "Sons of Anarchy" or some other show about certain fringe elements of society.  Behind all of the antisocial behavior are people who have feelings and who still interact with one another on a social level.  We choose to interact with those who we like, and I find that stuff utterly interesting.

I was out with a very close female of mine earlier today at brunch, and I made the comment about how certain interracial couples inevitably have certain stereotypical characteristics.  I find stuff like this really amusing to observe and discuss.  And some of the downright sociopathic behavior on this board does really have me amused from time to time.

But in the end, I really enjoy the human interaction.  At the same time, I draw the line at becoming too involved, and I don't get into board drama.

I don't even know if you're an escort.  You say you are, but nothing really points to the fact that you are, except for you saying it.

Which in and of itself is downright amusing.