Thanks for the breakdown Clarence...entertaining as always. Having my morning coffee with my TER fix from a balcony on Panama City Beach!!! See you guys Monday!!!

If the pics are what you are looking for..that should be enough.

If the pics are fake and she looks like she ate the gal in the fake pic...walk out.  And then report the fraud on your local board.

Honestly I haven't run into the fake pics very often.  There's been a few that had 10+ year old pics...and I let my pals know after that debacle.  But that was less a body type issue than meeting a Grandma type when I was expecting her daughter  

I pick based on a body type...and trust that the hooker is fairly representing herself in a picture.

Just curious...how is 5'6" 230# NOT a fatty?  Seems like she could be a starting nose tackle!!

Posted By: clarence37

but I was just browsing around  CL "women for men" posts, and I see a young girl looking...

says she is 5'6", 230# (not quite a bbw) - her words.

Or the lady I met recently who is very pretty, and nice, and sweet - and her belly is bigger than her 36dd chest, it's bigger than my belly, and she calls herself a "small bbw".

Can we get some kind of standard here? I happen to be attracted to busty, curvy ladies, but I would still like an accurate representation of what I am going to be paying for. OK, here's my scale, everyone please copy it down and carry it with them at all times :

1. emaciated: bones pressing through skin, pop eyes, no muscle tone in legs. Diseased.
2. scrawny: no breasts, bony hips, spindly legs. Frightening.
3. skinny: very little body fat. rudimentary breasts. Hot to men who like young boys.
4. thin: small waist, 24" or less. Breasts B cup or smaller, hips no wider than 34". Nice, spinner.
5. slim: up to 26" waist, up to C cup breasts, up to 36" hips. Hot.
6. average: up to 28" waist, up to D cup, up to 38" hips. still Hot.
7. curvy: Bigger difference between breasts/ hips and waist. waist up to 30", breasts MIN D cup. still Hot.
8. voluptuous: Big everything: min D cup, waist 28-34, hips 36-40. Hot if you are a Rubens fan.
9. thick: Big everything, but smaller difference between breasts/hips and waist. You must be into large women to enjoy her.
10. BBW: Large belly. Hips wider than 42". May or may not have large breasts, but chest is 40"+. Only for the fans.
11. Obese: #9 and #10 may technically (medically) qualify as obese, which I believe is only 25% above your "ideal" body weight? But ladies in category #11 are pretty rare in this venue, I've only seen them in calendars and some niche porn flicks. You have to be a REAL fan.

So anyway some of this may be insulting, IDN, and I hate people who insult others for their size, so I offer humble apologies. Personally, I would fall into the male equivalent of between 8 and 9, I suppose, and I am strongly attracted to women from 5 - 8, 4 if she is very beautiful, 9 and maybe 10 if she has a pretty face and nice breasts.

So many variables...London "thick?!"

These days, the "average" woman is a sz 12-14 and most women in the US population are within this range.  I have seen women within this range and it's amazing how different they each look; some still look hot while others look frumpy.  I think proportion is important and of course having a very pretty face and personality ties ANY body type into a nice package. If you like what you see, don't worry about the stats or specifics.  If she looks good she looks good--enjoy her!  Different strokes for different folks.  Personally I am not attracted to skinny women (modern day models) Meat is for the man and bones are for the dog   I am turned off by huge women but somewhere in between usually gets me going...I could call it "thick" or "voluptuous"  but whatever....each woman will wear it differently as long as she carries herself well it's all good.  BTW, whoever called London thick needs glasses! Not that there is anything at all wrong with thick but you have your ideals all wrong!

Posted By: clarence37

but I was just browsing around  CL "women for men" posts, and I see a young girl looking...

says she is 5'6", 230# (not quite a bbw) - her words.

Or the lady I met recently who is very pretty, and nice, and sweet - and her belly is bigger than her 36dd chest, it's bigger than my belly, and she calls herself a "small bbw".

Can we get some kind of standard here? I happen to be attracted to busty, curvy ladies, but I would still like an accurate representation of what I am going to be paying for. OK, here's my scale, everyone please copy it down and carry it with them at all times :

1. emaciated: bones pressing through skin, pop eyes, no muscle tone in legs. Diseased.
2. scrawny: no breasts, bony hips, spindly legs. Frightening.
3. skinny: very little body fat. rudimentary breasts. Hot to men who like young boys.
4. thin: small waist, 24" or less. Breasts B cup or smaller, hips no wider than 34". Nice, spinner.
5. slim: up to 26" waist, up to C cup breasts, up to 36" hips. Hot.
6. average: up to 28" waist, up to D cup, up to 38" hips. still Hot.
7. curvy: Bigger difference between breasts/ hips and waist. waist up to 30", breasts MIN D cup. still Hot.
8. voluptuous: Big everything: min D cup, waist 28-34, hips 36-40. Hot if you are a Rubens fan.
9. thick: Big everything, but smaller difference between breasts/hips and waist. You must be into large women to enjoy her.
10. BBW: Large belly. Hips wider than 42". May or may not have large breasts, but chest is 40"+. Only for the fans.
11. Obese: #9 and #10 may technically (medically) qualify as obese, which I believe is only 25% above your "ideal" body weight? But ladies in category #11 are pretty rare in this venue, I've only seen them in calendars and some niche porn flicks. You have to be a REAL fan.

So anyway some of this may be insulting, IDN, and I hate people who insult others for their size, so I offer humble apologies. Personally, I would fall into the male equivalent of between 8 and 9, I suppose, and I am strongly attracted to women from 5 - 8, 4 if she is very beautiful, 9 and maybe 10 if she has a pretty face and nice breasts.

if you can verify her height and weight you can come up with her BMI. Then we could get TER to include BMI on all profiles. Of course some hobbyists would probably want to bring scales and tape measures to verify height and weight.

I have belly ("large" depends on who you ask but lol I have enough) but you make clearly make out the difference in by boobs from my abdomen from my hips/waist I have shape and am not one odd-shaped mass, my hips area is right at 42'', my chest is 40+ (44DD maybe bigger I need a re-sizing lol), at 5'5'' about 180-ish lbs pretty sure that puts me in 11 too.  

I sort of cover about 3 of these so um yeah.
.... what's the point of this again?

Posted By: clarence37

but I was just browsing around  CL "women for men" posts, and I see a young girl looking...

says she is 5'6", 230# (not quite a bbw) - her words.

Or the lady I met recently who is very pretty, and nice, and sweet - and her belly is bigger than her 36dd chest, it's bigger than my belly, and she calls herself a "small bbw".

Can we get some kind of standard here? I happen to be attracted to busty, curvy ladies, but I would still like an accurate representation of what I am going to be paying for. OK, here's my scale, everyone please copy it down and carry it with them at all times :

1. emaciated: bones pressing through skin, pop eyes, no muscle tone in legs. Diseased.
2. scrawny: no breasts, bony hips, spindly legs. Frightening.
3. skinny: very little body fat. rudimentary breasts. Hot to men who like young boys.
4. thin: small waist, 24" or less. Breasts B cup or smaller, hips no wider than 34". Nice, spinner.
5. slim: up to 26" waist, up to C cup breasts, up to 36" hips. Hot.
6. average: up to 28" waist, up to D cup, up to 38" hips. still Hot.
7. curvy: Bigger difference between breasts/ hips and waist. waist up to 30", breasts MIN D cup. still Hot.
8. voluptuous: Big everything: min D cup, waist 28-34, hips 36-40. Hot if you are a Rubens fan.
9. thick: Big everything, but smaller difference between breasts/hips and waist. You must be into large women to enjoy her.
10. BBW: Large belly. Hips wider than 42". May or may not have large breasts, but chest is 40"+. Only for the fans.
11. Obese: #9 and #10 may technically (medically) qualify as obese, which I believe is only 25% above your "ideal" body weight? But ladies in category #11 are pretty rare in this venue, I've only seen them in calendars and some niche porn flicks. You have to be a REAL fan.

So anyway some of this may be insulting, IDN, and I hate people who insult others for their size, so I offer humble apologies. Personally, I would fall into the male equivalent of between 8 and 9, I suppose, and I am strongly attracted to women from 5 - 8, 4 if she is very beautiful, 9 and maybe 10 if she has a pretty face and nice breasts.

that is why you have to ignore the terminology to an extent and just do your research when these things really matter to you. there is a lot of contradiction in your own terminology as well. for instance the words "spinner" and "petite" both indicate a woman who is shorter than average height. i am thin but at about 5'7" i am far from petite. your idea of "thick" is also drastically different than i think of the term. when i think of "thick," i think of a fuller but at least somewhat muscular body-type like Ice-T's wife CoCo or Beyonce. someone with excess body fat i would not label as thick. i myself would fall somewhere between your 4 and 5 (i have a small chest, very small waist and 36" hips). no matter how hard you try you will never be able to fit everyone into a neat tidy little box, and something like appearance will ALWAYS be highly subjective.

WTF is wrong with people?  Your taste is your taste and it's not something you choose (IMO, it's like being gay.....it is what it is).  Who cares?  There are plenty of nerds married to hot woman and plenty of good looking guys married to overweight women.  

I never even gave my friends a hard time if they screwed a big chick in college.  Why would I?  I wasn't the one screwing her.  He got off and I didn't.  He should be the one making fun of me.  LOL.

You have to love people who can't come to terms with the fact that everyone has different tastes.....and you know what?  It's OK.

Stereotypes

Bah, so I have a slim gals tits,average waist and a bbw's ass. I'm soo screwed!! Lmao NOT!

And I am saved by the fat!!! Thank you for NOT calling this content curvy/ voluptous chick!!! Gives me more time for me to salivate on the guys that appreciate some shape and curves to their date!!! LOL!!!
All the women who posted are beautiful and deserving of every penny we ask. If not for us you guys would be left with Rosey and Maneula on those lonely nights!!! If you guys were truly content in the choice of women, then why post with such negativity?

I'm not quite sure what my point was when I wrote it because I have lately been just typing stream-of-consciousness and trying to figure it out later. So here is what I'd really like to say:

- many women tend to be less than accurate about their descriptions, representing themselves as smaller than they really are - like the 5'6, 230 pound girl who doesn't think she is a "bbw". I don't blame women for this, since the world expects every woman to be skinny. This thread proves my point, with all the morons calling anyone over 110# fat.
-look at photos, yeah I know, brilliant, because photos are never posed at strategic angles to obscure the truth.
-blame the guy who wrote the review. Yeah, because if a guy likes the woman he just saw, he is faced  with calling her "baby fat, flabby, heavy, etc". All adjectives for smaller women are nice or neutral. All for larger women are rude and insulting. No hobbyist who enjoys a woman's company is going to call her "flabby" EVEN IF SHE IS. It's one of the reasons that a scale like my JOKE scale is better. I THINK it would be easier to call a woman that you like "curvy, thick, voluptuous" as long as we all know the scale and what it means.

ah, there's more but I gotta go. This thread is over, anyways

...how the same words can mean so many different things to so many different people. While I do think that general body type guide lines on reviews and such are useful to help gents narrow down to find their type, I also think that they can be incredibly vague and not helpful. Case in point: Me! Here's a list of how I have been described by different people...and for the record, I am 5'6, 127# and 34c-26-36 and wear a size 4/6.

1. Petite: I don't think 5'6" is short. I don't think it's tall either. And I suppose that it was more in reference to my body size. But to some, I think my height and/or my clothing size would disqualify me as being petite

2. Curvy: More in reference to my shape; I do have a pretty dramatic waist to hip ratio. But to some, curvy can mean BBW, or someone with a much more ample bosom, or someone with an overall more voluptuous figure.

3. Athletic: I do yoga and pilates, so I do have some muscle definition, but I'm certainly not ripped. I've got some softness to me! My lack of 6 pack abs or Madonna like arms may disqualify me by some from being labeled athletic.

4. Slender: I'd say this is probably most accurate. It implies (at least to me) that I'm not skinny per se, but on the smaller side and healthy. But again, that's pretty subjective; that may not be everyone's definition of that word.

5. HWP: Again, an overall accurate call. But then again, I think this is accurate to most people who fall into the BMI scale of 18-25...so not very descriptive at all.

In the end, it's hard for me to nail down what words I would use to describe my body type/shape because it really is all subjective and furthermore, trying to figure out some sort of concrete wording system is impossible. I mean, your #3 is gross to you, but it may be some other guys dream girl. And your #5 is hot to you, but to others it may be too big or small. You've got your rating system all figured out; you can't really place it on anyone else.

As the old cliche goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I know everyone else has already said it...but it's the truth.

-- Modified on 11/3/2012 7:11:41 PM

I think that's a much better way of going about this than by using numbers, which mean nothing, really.

For example, here are some examples below:

Athletic/curvy:  Kate Upton
Curvy:  Kat Dennings
BBW:  Late-era Anna Nicole Smith