Just wondering:  I have a friend who's been a provider for about a year.  She is sweet, accomodating, intelligent, has a gorgeous face and great legs, men love her for how she treats them, yadda yadda.  She's in her late 20s and time and yo-yoing on the scale have taken their toll on her body. She's got some saggy skin.  Nothing big, but enough to bother her incredibly.

This fall, my friend is planning on getting a nipple lift (and implant since she'll have no boob left once the skin is gone) which will leave a scar around the ariola along with a vertical scar down the front of each breast.  She is also getting a mini tummy tuck which will leave a horizontal scar just above the pubic area about 5 inches wide.  

She is doing this to feel better about herself, yet realizes that with a new "perfect" body, she will be marring her otherwise flawless skin.  

I saw some posts about c-section scars, but what about this double whammy scarring, on both breasts and lower abdomen?  Should she put a note on her website about the new scars?  Will such visible scarring on the breasts cause men to gross out?  Will she have to resort to operating only by candlelight or in the dark?  

My friend appreciates your input!  ;>

Responses will vary; however tell your friend to make sure she is gettibg "state of the art" surgery". She should look into it thoroughly, get several opinions from "top" plastic surgeons, see photographs of these procedures which have been done by others, and talk to others who have had this procedure. Plastic surgery is supossed to make you look better not worse! It's hard to believe that these relatively simple procedures you describe cannot be done with hardly visible or no visible scars. Otherwise what's the point! Good Luck to her.
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me as much as those vertical scars on the breasts.  The horizontal scar can be covered by a scarf or a piece of clothing.  It is similar to C section which though somewhat obvious, but easy to cover up.

The vertical scar on the breast is a different story.  Women often have boob jobs to make them look great while wearing clothes - bikinis, lower cut dress, etc.  However, it is a real shock when that kind of long scars are revealed to a man, at least that was my reaction.

I still remember the time I saw an otherwise gorgeous young lady with such scars in the mid 90s.  She was one of those who replaced her implants because of the silicone scare.  She was very self conscious about the scars and I tried very hard not to stare on them.  They looked very artifical and jarring, especially to a stranger.  Even though they didn't prevent me from wanting to see her again, I still felt sad for her about those scars.

I don't know enough about plastic surgery to know if there are any alternative to the procedure that would create those vertical scars.  Maybe a body makeup can disguise it somewhat.  I would strongly suggest a woman to avoid that if possible.

Tell your friend to do what would make her most comfortable and not to worry about it.  Personally, I like a little belly to hold onto, especially during CG but also like the feeling of belly-to-belly during missionary.  Flat-bellied girls are less attractive to me.  I've seen girls with small breasts, especially those who have been self-conscious about it their whole life go way overboard and get those giant rock-hard boobs.  I hate that!  Or those who have perfect little hand-size boobs get surgery which is unfortunate.  I even love the perfectly flat girls (they look like little girl boobs).  The only kind I think are good candidates for boob jobs are where they have boobs but they're kind of empty and saggy.  Wouldn't it be possible for her to get a boob job without that kind of nipple-moving scarring?  I've seen good boob jobs without that.

The vertical scars are usually from a breast lift.  Depending on the skin type the woman has some fade more than others.  As with everything some men will not like it and some won't care.  She needs to do what she wants to make herself feel better, not what she feels she needs to do to cater to anyone else.  There will always be men out there who will hire her regardless of scars or no scars.

by men especially if they are just strangers.  If a woman feels better by doing that operation, I would encourage her to do so.  However, many others don't realize the impact of those operations and many plastic surgeons just want to get paid with no regards for how well the boob jobs will turn out.

When I stared at those vertical scars on an otherwise absolutely beautiful young lady, I felt so bad for her it almost made me cry.  Maybe it was just my own narrow mindedness.  I am sure if I had the opportunity to meet her more, I would overlook that in times.  I can hardly relate to you how shocking I was when the bras were off.

Please feel free to disagree with me as I know there are many different opinions out there.  Too bad many others have yet to comment on this matter.


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This is just my opinion but women are going to have plastic surgery to suck out, uplift, tuck, repair, tighten, correct, pull, etc, etc, etc, and it's honesty which really matters.

I've had a tummy tuck and breast lifts w/silicone implants and liposuction and I have 7 pages of reviews and no one's mentioned my scars which by the way are very very neat and not revealing at all.

Lots of women also wear a waterproof type of body makeup which covers them perfectly.  I do believe it's the maturity of the man and what he's looking for.  

That's cool if you don't like them. As I said some men will be bothered and some won't.  I forgot to mention last post that there is a pricey and only semi-permanant solution to the scarring.  Once the scars have faded (usually about 12-18 months after the initial surgery) she can go in for laser re-pigmentation.  It is pretty expensive (roughly $400 per session with 3-10 sessions needed depending on the size and depth of the scar.)  It has to be redone every 4-6 months but the lasers can minimize and in some cases make the scarring virtually undetectable.  The proceedure is new so she'd have to search for a doctor who is skilled in that area.

Good luck to her!

I have no problem at all with horizontal scars stemming from appendectomies, caesarian sections, general surgery, or even a tummy tuck.  These scars are part of the human condition.  Anf Lord knows that I'm far from perfect.

I do not like scars stemming from breast augmentations, vertical or horizontal.  They haven't grossed me out, but they certainly catch my eye.  A provider's demeanor and performance far outweigh these imperfections, and I would see such a provider a second time knowing that I'll have a good time.  However, my preference strongly leans toward those that are unenhanced.

have things done to my body. but i feel it is the person within. the saying is u can't judge a book by it's cover. so everything looks good on the out side but what about inside? you have to learn to love your self.i'm almost 45 and to me my boobs are hanging and i have a stomache, but i have never had anyone talk about it. everything i have is real. we need to love ourselfs not or looks. i know sometimes things get in the way but life has made it where it is to easy to have everything done to your self and yes it will help for awhile but then what happens when you get my age, do u save all your life to get all fixed up? we are not prefect and we need to remember that. everyone is different and that is what makes the world great. if we all looked like models then life would be boring. won't it.

Thanks for the opinions.  She wears push up bras in her online photos and when she meets with clients.  Once the bra comes off, though, it's like looking at flapjacks.  Would a man rather look at a perky boob with a scar, or a flattened out type found often in National Geographic and on women age 60+ ?  


To clarify a few things:  her boobs are quite droopy b's from weight fluctuation in college, from petite 4 to size 14 and back in a four year time span.  To give her the lift she wants, she  must have a vertical scar, because of all the skin that's being removed.  (Less droopy ones only have a scar around the areola.)  If she does it without an implant, she will have virtually no boob left at all.  And if she puts an implant in without a lift, she ends up with skin drooping off of the implant (she only wants enough to remain a b, while DDs might fill it, but she's not interested in that.)

So the question remains:  how to address the scarring to new visitors?  Should she post it verbally on her website?  Tell them on the phone or via emails beforehand?  

Yes, scars fade and lasers can be used 12-18 months later, but in the meantime, body makeup can only camouflage so much, and a girl's gotta' work!

Thanks again.

I think some posters are confused about the type of breast surgery you're discussing.

Breast implant surgery shouldn't leave noticeable scars, but the breast lift surgery (for droopy breasts) that you're talking about does unfortunately leave vertical and horizontal scars.

Anyway, I had a similar problem, and had the breast lift (with implants) done, and and am VERY happy I did. I can wear tube tops like I'm 20 again as well as skimpy bikini tops and look very sexy. No more droop when the clothes come off--just a soft, natural-looking effect (no bolt-on look).

At first, I was very self-conscious about the ugly scars for the first few months, so I wore heavy makeup (although the scars did show 50%). I also kept the bedroom very dark which helped quite a bit.

Now, a year later, the scars are much fainter and I don't think about the scars much anymore. However, I think I will try the laser depigmentation shortly to make them even fainter.

I never told any hobbyist about my scars ahead of time, and my scars have never been mentioned in any review of me.  (I also know another provider who had similar surgery and her scars have never been mentioned either). I get a lot of repeat customers, so obviously the scars can't be too awful.

Even if business does drop off a bit for a year due to the surgery scars, I still think in time most providers would be very happy with the results, just as i am.

(And for the providers who can accept their bodies just as they are, that's wonderful and more power to you; for me the surgery made my self-esteem improve and definitely made me feel sexier.)

...one of the best jobs I've ever seen.  No visible scars, just the right feel, and proportionally correct.

A beautiful enhancement for a beautiful lady.

As for "warning" clients, I don't see it as any different than normal advertisement.  Simply show honest photos which includes the scars, not in a way that emphasizes them but neither overly disguises them.  For me, I have to admit, I would prefer modest-sized (B), natural soft-feeling fake boobs with scars over flapjack-type boobs.  More important than that though is how the woman feels about herself.  Her insecurity about her breasts comes through during those intimate moments and can be sensed by sensitive men.  If new boobs will make her happier, then bring on the boobs.  Life's too short to be sad.  Besides, she can make up cool stories about the scars like they're dueling scars, a gang initiation, alien probing, etc.