amount of this when looking at providers.
I'm less active in the hobby than I was in the past mostly since I now know enough local civilians who are DTF. But I still like to hobby when I travel for work or vacation. Searching for providers on P411, it seems like 90% of the companions there are now hiding their ages in the listings. I understand this works to their benefit, but makes it difficult for us to select companions without a possible surprise when we meet. On top of that, it seems like fewer have web sites, and more are requesting deposits or enhanced screening - even if you have dozens of P411 okays. I know the standard advice is to move on until we find a companion we feel comfortable with. But does anyone else find these changes a little frustrating?
amount of this when looking at providers.
Sure with the heavy picture filtering going it matters to me. I don’t want older skin and what comes with age.
There are fewer and fewer in person sex workers, many are moving to on line only, so yes, right now it is a seller's market. I am old as fuck and live in the middle of no where Wisconsin and I have pre bookings into January already. The market is only going to open up with the decriminalization of sex work. Gals don't have to risk getting arrested or even their lives by doing only fans which they risk with in person escorting.
At your rates I would assume you are booked like that. It’s lets you be picky also.
I am really not that picky, but it always blows my mind when guys can't even stumble over the very low bar I have. LOL
As to the OP I am on P411 and have my real age posted. I put my real age on my website and my ads as well. My photos are real, that is really what I look like. I expect honestly from my clients so in return I think I should be honest with them as well. I It is only fair.
Not old at at all, you're in my sweet spot 35-55.
My photos are real, that is really what I look like.
If the pictures (and other information sources) aren't representative of the provider in real time. It bothers me a lot more when you meet someone who is trying to hide obvious aging and/or health issues. Fortunately, in my experience I have only encountered a couple of those. That said, I have had the pleasure of being with several providers over fifty with physical attributes and attitudes that put many 30 something's to shame.
There is no substitute for experience. I’ve been an entertainer for over two decades. P411 is interesting because they don’t screen for our safety. I believe everything is very frustrating because I can literally survive off my onlyfans & not have to entertain anyone, so no risks.
I absolutely love ❤️ the thrill this hobby provides. I’m going into the new year with 3 pre booked dates it feels good. 😊 I notice it’s different because of the options available now a days. I don’t want to stop escorting. I need human connection. I enjoy have dates booked months in advance, and creating memories to last a lifetime.
My best dates ever, 35-55.
If age is hidden, she's very likely over 35 and if she's been around a number of years, over 45. Younger providers don't hide their age.
PM their last few reviewers.
Worst case, as long as you don't give up personal information or drop a huge deposit, you can always walk away.
does not display her age and weight on her website. With that said, I will add 10 years and 10 pounds to whatever the representation is and I'm less likely to be disappointed when we meet. If there is a representation that she has made that turns out to be blatantly false, then I'm justified and walking out without going through with the session.
I don't expect a provider to be changing her website content to keep up with less than a ten-pound swing in her weight one way or the other, but beyond that, I feel what she is selling has been misrepresented intentionally, and I reserve the right to pass on the purchase just like I can on a seller of anything else I buy regularly. Obviously, this would be difficult with providers who demand a deposit up front, and this is ONE of the reasons I will not pay a deposit. You have no leverage if she is scamming you on her looks, and the scammers know this.
but what if they aren't lying? what if they are actually 37? would you assume they are 27 or 47? or would it depend on the girl?
people tell me all the time I look young 20's-but I have no issues with my age at all I didn't know p411 had my age hidden because we verify with our real information. I literally never thought about my weight being a factor- as far as listing it!! so that's a great piece of info!!
SCAMMERS MAKE ME WANNA THROW A SHOE - they are fluxing up the place for everyone. - thanks for coming to my TED talk - namaste
I just did a search on p4 for ATL and 22 out of 25 on the first page of results have their age hidden. I agree with the previous post that many younger ladies aren't concerned about hiding their age.
It used to be the photos were touched up but they looked like the person. Now you often have no idea. I generally see mature ladies and don’t really care about the age if the photo is reasonably accurate.
I can't believe this is even a discussion. Let me break it down for you.
1) Don't see women without multiple, recent, positive TER reviews.
2) If you can't get a "read" on provider's age, contact one of the reviewers.
There are reviewers who visit un-reviewed providers in the spirit of conquering the unknown and TOFTT. Check-out reviewer shearhammer. He definitely puts in work! I told him that he deserves a public service award!
ATTB
Imagine how we feel with all the changes and all the sites require id checks and such. But I mean, if you like her pics why should age matter? As long as she’s legal. Just ask her?! Lol .. I don’t show my age because you won’t believe it anyways
You look awesome and I'd guess you were no older than about 30, but based on what you said about your age being not believable maybe you're at least 10 years older.
Regardless, it wouldn't matter to me. As you said, if a woman is attractive who cares - certainly not me. The oldest provider I've seen is close to 60 and looks amazing. I have the best times with older women.
I don't need to know her real age.
I don't need or want to know the age that SHE believes she is or passes for.
I want to know an age that *I* can believe she is!
You look awesome and I'd guess you were no older than about 30, but based on what you said about your age being not believable maybe you're at least 10 years older.
Regardless, it wouldn't matter to me. As you said, if a woman is attractive who cares - certainly not me. The oldest provider I've seen is close to 60 and looks amazing. I have the best times with older women.
naked for a session, I can usually get within 2-3 years because I know what to look for, but you are right on your challenge, based solely on your photos, I probably wouldn't believe your real age.
Between FOSTA/SESTA and the steep drop in the number of agencies (which often served as the entryway for young, broke ladies to start out in the hobby), it's considerably harder for ladies to start escorting. As someone else noted, there are safer and easier alternatives. The relative lack of new blood means the sellers get to be more selective in terms of safety, opportunity cost, and marketing.
Hard to fault them given how much they've seen the buyers take full advantage when the shoe is on the other foot.