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I Don't See the Problem
420Smoka4Eva 1780 reads
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1 / 33

I was browsing Eros.com when I was hit with the following warning: "Eros operates solely as an advertising platform and cannot be held responsible for fraudulent behavior by third parties. Please stay cautious and do not provide any form of advance commitment or sensitive information."
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I've been seeing these warnings with increasing frequency across multiple ad sites and platforms. They're basically saying don't pay deposits or share any PI for screening. We know why we are getting this message, these websites are getting flooded with deposit thieves, deceptive OF ads and scammers. We also know these websites are doing jack shit about it, to the point we have another new ad site being promoted and making the rounds. We also know that like 90% of providers require PI screening and deposits (note: this is a made up statistic for rhetorical effect). So like, what gives?
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I have to ask, how do you providers feel about these websites telling potential clients that your screening and booking procedures are dangerous and should be avoided? In my opinion, its kind of messed up that they take your payment for the ad and then try to undermine your booking/screening process. I also dislike the accountability. These sites are hosting the scammers, taking their payment, and then not doing anything about it or taking any responsibility for it. So providers, how do you feel about this warning? Do you fear these ad sites taking additional measures or imposing any restrictions? Just want to get your thoughts.  
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Note: The purpose of this thread is to not discuss the practicality, purpose or safety or screening/deposits. There are many other threads to talk about that. This thread is to discuss these warning and what they could mean.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 100 reads
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2 / 33

I am going to chew on this and do some research. Good question.

carabiner 17 Reviews 108 reads
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3 / 33

I consider myself a cautious veteran but I got swindled for $25 a few months ago. Super hot touring gal, no reviews, pro photos not bathroom selfies, pro website, and 3+ years of regular OF activity including face out. Pro screening and communication. IIRC about $600/hour. The big red flag was $25 deposit for two hours? Like really, most gals want 20% or more. One hour before the date she cancelled and disappeared like Keyser Söze. Tryst ads gone. OF account gone. Emails and texts unresponsive. I assume she has since popped up under a new name but I’m not looking. Her Tryst ad was up for about three weeks before her tour. Assuming she nabbed ten dumbass guys like me, that’s only $250 bux. Seems like an awful lot of work for $250. It was a good lesson for me and relatively cheap at $25 bux. But I can’t file any complaints on Tryst cuz her ad is gone. Also curious that she actually texted to cancel an hour before. I’m glad cuz I didn’t drive to the incall and wait there like a disappointed dumbass. Can a scammer be courteous?

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 74 reads
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4 / 33

I stop advertising on most all platforms that warns not to send deposits. I realize that TER is the absolute best place for an OG, like me. People who care to do their due diligence by verifying a provider is real will find me here. This site is legit. Twenty years and counting… I may never be voted Ms TER, but I get bookings with deposits.  

When I moved to another state I noticed providers posting on their own ads to never send a deposit. It was mind boggling to me how they can detour people to send deposits when I’m bonafide & I’ve been requiring a deposit to book, since I became a Mom 15 years ago.  

Bottom line is everyone should do what works best for them & their lifestyle. 💋 kiss 😘 keep it super simple.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 108 reads
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5 / 33

I had this happen to me but not sex work related. A few years ago I had someone hack into my Kohl's account (yes, you read that right!) and sent themselves a $25 gift card. Apparently that is a typical scam amount because most people are going to say fuck it, it was only $25 and move on with life. But you are correct, who knows how many people they scammed for the $25. But per your post it sounds like you did everything right and did your research. Was the "provider" you were talking to even a real person or was the whole scam just AI? Who knows. Back to the OP's comment how do we as providers stay safe while clients try to navigate the scam shit show that is so prevalent now? Unfortunately with sex work being illegal the black market is a hot bed for online criminal activity. I don't even remember the last time a guy said he was robbed by a "provider" in person. They don't have to even show up anymore, they can just rob you online. In countries where sex work is legal or decriminalized there is just not this level of scamming. Unfortunately because of the anti sex work/trafficking groups continuing to push to keep sex work illegal the scamming of clients is not something even on their radar as something to worry about.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 73 reads
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6 / 33

too good to be true, it usually is.  Your mistake was thinking the risk of a scam would be lower due to the small amount they were asking for.  Common sense would tell us the risk is higher.  It's lower for them because the lower amount would not warrant coming after them, and you didn't.  You wrote it off as I would have, but I would have seen the scam for what it is in the first place.

inicky46 61 Reviews 82 reads
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7 / 33

They have tested the info about you to see if it works for a small amount and next will take an even larger amount.

bofia 26 Reviews 115 reads
posted
8 / 33

Platforms covering their ass, simple as that.
They can't vet every provider or ad, so they place this buyer beware as a disclaimer.

carabiner 17 Reviews 68 reads
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9 / 33

No I didn’t think the risk of scam was lower due to the small amount, that actually triggered my spidey sense. I paid the $25 cuz I wanted to see where it went and I was very surprised she kept in touch via text up to an hour before the appointment. If she had asked for $250 or 20% I’d like to think I would not have sent it, but I was definitely thinking with the little head at the time.

I’m in cyber security and no I’m confident my story was not AI. But I’m worried about the impact of AI on ‘our industry’ for both guys and gals. I think fraud is really gonna escalate quickly and unlike other countries, we’re really behind on laws with teeth to slow it down. And as Scarlet mentions, few resources will go into slowing fraud for ‘our industry’ cuz it’s illegal and we’re all criminals. Today’s senior scams are now in the 100’s of billions of dollars and nobody is doing anything about it.

I think ‘non review culture’ and UTR gals will have increasingly more difficult time connecting with clients. I hope I’m wrong but my gut says no.

hehitshewins 69 reads
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10 / 33

Plain and simple, there are lots of scammers out there and they find their ways onto these platforms. While they can do a better job vetting, it's impossible to stop them all. Having a buyer beware message is helpful. I don't think legit providers are sufferring as a result.

OldRanger 62 Reviews 76 reads
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11 / 33

Think TER slowed down naming The Miss TERs with the only reason being to keep from anointing you.  
What I find baffling is that there has not been another provider here who has admitted how much of her income has been generated from this site.  
More should take notice .

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 93 reads
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12 / 33

I know you say I don't like reviews or review culture but it keeps guys and girls safe for scammers....

I can ask for PI and deposits my clients don't think they are going to be scammed why...like 500 plus reviews maybe  

15 years and hundreds of reviews shows I'm 100 percent legitimate and want to keep my outstanding reputation  

So I came into industry during the reviews stage and I believe it weeds out the garbage scammers...
My reviews helps me when I tour so people know I'm actually going and showing up not just fake OF tours .. seeing girls pop up on Trs with ads of tours to places in Montana they aren't even going just to get more OF followers...

So if ad sites just kicked them off it would be good but they won't they want the money 💰 so we have to be smarter than the scammers and ad sites  

Again reviews maybe the only to prove your real against the scammers now  

My opinion  
Hugs Hazel Hayes

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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13 / 33

Good to know! I changed my password and account # with Kohls and I have not had any further issues. This was like 4 or 5 years ago, I am assuming Kohls has upped their security measures.

inicky46 61 Reviews 70 reads
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14 / 33
QueenBia See my TER Reviews 81 reads
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15 / 33
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 65 reads
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16 / 33

financial fraud carry the death penalty, and they don't do ten years of appeals before blasting a hole through the back of a convict's head.  You're right, we need more teeth in fraud statutes.

moregan See my TER Reviews 85 reads
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17 / 33

I appreciate that this is being discussed. I’ve been around for over 10 years and have seen many changes, but this one just doesn’t make sense. When sites don’t provide protection or make it harder to screen, it makes it harder for us to earn. Don’t they realize that the more we’re able to make, the more we can reinvest in advertising with them? If we can’t make our money back, they don’t just limit our growth they lose a customer too.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 90 reads
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18 / 33

But I suspect it will not have much effect at all. I've seen those types of notices for years outside the USA, and even sometimes in the States. It is just a warning and a "fine print" type claim to avoid anyone claiming the site holds some responsibility for any lots deposits or issues with information provided.

RespectfulRobert 76 reads
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19 / 33

I actually do think scams are at, or close to, an all time high since I have been playing. I think Covid was partly to blame for that as many charlatans saw a way to make a quick buck, close out that profile when busted, then open/create a new persona and do it again.  
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I am guessing these sites are being inundated with complaints from clients and thus the need for the disclaimers. I just personally don't think it is difficult, for an experienced guy, to find a reputable provider re: deposits. I don't have any issues at all but I also stay within my rules when sending them.

420Smoka4Eva 110 reads
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20 / 33

Yea I was specifically asking providers because I want to know how they feel. I know that isn't going to stop the clients from responding lol. I understand that this is a pretty standard disclaimer that is being done as a legal CYA. I'm more interested in the provider's perspective. There has been a lot of chatter about ad sites from providers lately. Providers have hated eros for a while and are becoming increasingly frustrated with Tryst. Providers are even talking up a new advertising site (which, I have no interest in). It just seemed like these ad sites were throwing providers under the bus and undermining their customers. I think the provider perspective would be more interesting and insightful. So far the clients are mostly saying the same thing.

420Smoka4Eva 104 reads
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21 / 33

Posted By: Hazelvip
Re: Again to sound like a broken record...for new girls in game..
I know you say I don't like reviews or review culture but it keeps guys and girls safe for scammers....
I think you make an interesting point here that reviews help keep providers safe. I wholeheartedly agree. I think providers were a bit short sighted when they turned away from reviews and "review culture." Reviews helped clean up the profession and helped changed the reputation of escorting. Before reviews the market was dominated by pimps, street walkers, agencies and filthy underground brothels. The growth of internet advertising and reviews helped give rise to the independent provider, which made the profession safer and more lucrative for most women. Also, I've been a bit surprised by the blasé attitude many providers adopted about potential scammers and thieves. I would think most providers would be interested in removing bad actors and would want to protect their industries reputation. However many providers were clear that they didn't care. I get the feeling that clients in general are way less trusting and less likely to give providers the benefit of the doubt. I think that is a bad development.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 82 reads
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22 / 33

Unfortunately some of these sites do not care if they get $$ from unscrupulous "providers" (aka scammers) or from actual legitimate providers. Some of these scammers are putting up multiple "provider" ads and as soon as one gets reported they pull it and create a new one. Eros was always more expensive to advertise on. When many of the legitimate providers left because of the cost the scammers moved in. Tryst unfortunately is getting overtaken by onlyfans ads. There are less and less in person providers because many have gone to on line only. But we also must not forget that casual sex is more common and people living together before they are married, so in person providers on not as high in demand for the younger unmarried gents as they were before. And what does "verified" even mean anymore? IDs and pics can be generated with AI. The whole thing is a shit show. lol  

RespectfulRobert 65 reads
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23 / 33

Many of your points are absolutely valid, but I’m sure you also understand why so many providers have chosen to leave reviews in the rearview. Some reviews were faked and stated specific services that the provider never offered, which of course would be infuriating to any provider.
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The problem then arose that when a review like that posts, it sets an unrealistic expectation for the next gent(s). A client who books based on that review, may assume that the same sex act will be available to him, putting the provider in a very uncomfortable position, especially if she has to decline a sexual request in the midst of passion. Then guess what happens? She is potentially subject to a bad review from THAT client.  
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To make matters worse, once a fake review was posted, removing it became nearly impossible. That lack of control was yet another major reason many women stepped away from the “review culture” you mention.  
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But what truly sealed it was that many who left, say they found a different caliber of client i.e. ones who respected discretion and didn’t feel the need to broadcast every detail of their time together. Many have also stated that their income improved after leaving, eliminating any real incentive to return to TER, or sites similar.
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As for myself, I am genuinely grateful to the providers who have chosen to remain reviewable. It helps me determine if the provider is real, that she is not law enforcement, that she matches her photos and is a good overall match for me in terms of sexual compatibility. I also happen to enjoy writing them very much, and reading them again at a later date, as they bring back tons of great memories.

brokeloser123 103 reads
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24 / 33

No reviews. Enough said.

if she is not on here with a few good reviews the past six months or so, pass….

even the other site which we cannot name has a ton of scammers on it

brokeloser123 88 reads
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25 / 33

if she is asking for an absurd deposit…move along

if she has no reviews…move along

if she has a tryst profile that shows her touring in areas that are impossible to reach within one day of each other…move along

420Smoka4Eva 96 reads
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26 / 33

The first escort you wanted to see did get arrested for sex trafficking lmao. I'll be honest, when you told that story I looked into the woman and... yea that provider had a reputation. I understand why she got arrested lol. She would antagonize cops on her Instagram and would brag about how she had cops and judges as clients. She even posted a video of her antagonizing some cops in person on her IG. She was talking so much shit it isn't a surprise she ended up in an FBI investigation.

420Smoka4Eva 76 reads
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27 / 33

I understand the reasons why women want to avoid review sites. We've heard the reasons and I will 100% admit the women have a point. Many reviews read like penthouse letters rejects that can be cringy. It doesn't seem like many providers are suffering from a lack of clients nor have they had to drop their rates. Also it seems like the average review board john is a "value shopper" while these providers would prefer to target a "luxury shopper." There is a reason why this board seems to be dominated by K-girl clients these days.
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However, it isn't like reviews have completely disappeared, even for women with no review policies. There are definitely informal, diffused information sharing networks that exist among clients (which have been hinted at here). It is definitely more discreet but it isn't like "review culture" has disappeared, even for women with no review policies. I think it works out for some high end providers.
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I am just going to say that nothing lasts forever. Things come and go. There has been a lot of money thrown around in the past 5 years but I get a feeling certain bubbles are staring to burst. Real estate is starting to crash and people are noticing the stock market is extremely overvalued. I'll leave you with this quote from NNT, the author of "The Black Swan." "I've seen gluts not followed by shortages, but I've never seen a shortage not followed by a glut." At a certain point the bottom is going to fall out and providers are going to have to start working a bit harder for clients.
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Who knows what the future will bring. I doubt we will go back to how things were in the past. I do get a feeling that something has to give.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 72 reads
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28 / 33

Providers pay the platforms to host their ads because it helps them extend their client base and allow their profiles to be found on a popular platform.

 
There is a reason why many merchants pay a hefty fee to Amazon to be able to sell their stuff, and same with steam and video game developers. Etc etc. The more popular a platform the bigger the cut usually. It's basically an ad for your product and service to be found by a larger mass.  

 
The platforms do the easiest and cheapest thing they can do to avoid accountability. Ie, a very common sense warning.

I am obviously not a provider, but as this warning does absolutely nothing aside to tell people to not get scammed, I would assume most providers simply don't care enough, as the primary purpose (exposure to platform) is worth a lot more than some warning that they have no way to tell if it's even doing anything.  

Does such a warning even reduce the number of deposits sent ? I think we should start there. It might serve as a last second defense defense for someone who is very naive and gullible... but even that idk.  

 
Let's do it in rough napkin math terms.  

Let's say a provider has a threshold where number of clients gained from being on a platform is enough to make a good profit when you subtract the platform cost.  

Does this number go below the threshold with the warning? Are there suddenly less clients there because they are warned to not do certain screenings?  

I am making an assumption, but if I know a thing or two what sellers care about (ie, money)  I don't think it even makes a dent.  

 
Unless a seller is well established with a low volume body of work and loyal fanbase... any exposure for a seller is good exposure.  

 
And while yes the platforms are doing the bare minimun they could instead being harder on scammers, their warning is generally a good idea for people who may read such warning and change their mind... Ie it's not saying anything wrong.  

 
I really don't see what there is a concern about.

Himes 26 Reviews 69 reads
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29 / 33

When did Eros stop allowing advertisers to post their rates?

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 75 reads
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30 / 33

Pretty much the same thing

Tobacco may cause cаncer = true
Deposits may get you scammed = true

And yet the ads still continue and they are effective.

Now if Er0s actually subtrаcted money from a provider if she chаrged a deposit...then I could see a provider bаlking.

Because that's money talking. And that's the language most sellers in this biz prefer to talk in.  

-- Modified on 9/29/2025 6:24:22 PM

-- Modified on 9/29/2025 6:24:49 PM

Dmbs1 107 reads
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31 / 33

All these warnings mean is that each of these companies has at least one lawyer and needs to do something to cover his retainer.
You think maybe that the same lawyer has made it easier for a provider to have an add running and now having a no review policy that applies here.

heather_heavenly See my TER Reviews 80 reads
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32 / 33

Absolutely agree, QB!
I only used Eros briefly in 2017, and they banned me for using the word "French" to describe oral. 😂 Best thing that ever happened! Never needed them anyway.

 
I don’t get why some providers advise against deposits. I require them too—it’s just good business.
It seems like every platform now comes with some kind of warning. Scams are everywhere, in every industry. I always tell clients to research the providers they’re interested in thoroughly.

 
That said, I’ve recently heard about scams even from well-known providers with verified websites, OnlyFans, ads, TER reviews, you name it. It’s the bad apples out there ruining things for everyone.

MaggieLinn2 See my TER Reviews 95 reads
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33 / 33

Unfortunately what happens is they do phishing scams with us ladies until they get someone who puts in their account credentials. Then they just take over a legit account. Lots of ladies use the same password and login in across accounts so all the scammer has to do is put in that same info and they have access to everything. Then they just ask everyone who contacts for  a deposit. They can change the email and phone number on the account to theirs. The reason the account disappeared is probably because the lady finally got a hold of support to take it down because they were locked out.  

They introduced two factor login but that does not seem to be deterring these scammers. The really not much else you can do accept maybe do a video chat with the lady to make sure it’s actually them on the other end before sending a deposit or any other information. Can’t rely on them sending you a photo because those can be faked too.

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