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I don't have a problem with it...
VOO-doo 563 reads
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If she doesn't mention that she's willing to share results on her site, then you'll need to ask her to undergo a test, just for you. (Most people do not get a print-out of results when they are tested).  

You do need to be careful about how you express yourself. If you sound 'whorephobic' she could very well feel insulted. Also, she might assume that you're looking for BBFS.  

Here are some steps I'd follow if I were you (Please understand that this is not a customary request, and not all providers will feel comfortable accommodating you):  

1) Go through her screening, and mention NOTHING about STD's
2) When OK'd for a date, tell her that you're overly cautious (even paranoid) about your health, and that you'd be happy to pay her to take a test within, say, 3 days of your appointment. Re-iterate that you have an pressing concern for safety and are not looking for any uncovered activities, just reassurance to assuage your paranoia
3) Realize that test results are not 100% accurate - there are window periods for some STD's, and also, she may also have seen a client or two (or 10) since she took the test

An aside: I used to belong to one of those apps that shares rest results. I stopped because  - although more than a few clients mentioned that it was reassuring to them that I'd offer to share my info - nobody ever asked to see my profile. Also, some people thought it hinted at BBFS. Actually, I'd only advertised my openness because of a progressive attitude - and, because my experiences in this industry had led me to believe that risk-taking and a happy-go-lucky attitude (i.e. assumption that everyone was 'OK' so long as he/she looked 'OK') were dangerously prevalent

Do you ask your provider if she's free of STD's ??   and how often she's tested?   and to provide the most recent test results?

-- Modified on 12/18/2016 10:19:22 AM

Do a taste test.  Tells you everything you need to know.

Posted By: southwind32
Do you ask your provider if she's free of STD's ??   and how often she's tested?   and to provide the most recent test results?

-- Modified on 12/18/2016 10:19:22 AM

I have never been asked if I have been tested, but I am at OBGYN often. I would rather be safe then sorry. I am 100% good though. Safety is the most important thing in my book.

-- Modified on 12/18/2016 5:17:59 PM

But not anymore.... I stopped when a provider told me that she got tested every 10 days or so.... what a line of  garbage...
I do seem to get strep  a lot though...lol.
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VOO-doo564 reads

If she doesn't mention that she's willing to share results on her site, then you'll need to ask her to undergo a test, just for you. (Most people do not get a print-out of results when they are tested).  

You do need to be careful about how you express yourself. If you sound 'whorephobic' she could very well feel insulted. Also, she might assume that you're looking for BBFS.  

Here are some steps I'd follow if I were you (Please understand that this is not a customary request, and not all providers will feel comfortable accommodating you):  

1) Go through her screening, and mention NOTHING about STD's
2) When OK'd for a date, tell her that you're overly cautious (even paranoid) about your health, and that you'd be happy to pay her to take a test within, say, 3 days of your appointment. Re-iterate that you have an pressing concern for safety and are not looking for any uncovered activities, just reassurance to assuage your paranoia
3) Realize that test results are not 100% accurate - there are window periods for some STD's, and also, she may also have seen a client or two (or 10) since she took the test

An aside: I used to belong to one of those apps that shares rest results. I stopped because  - although more than a few clients mentioned that it was reassuring to them that I'd offer to share my info - nobody ever asked to see my profile. Also, some people thought it hinted at BBFS. Actually, I'd only advertised my openness because of a progressive attitude - and, because my experiences in this industry had led me to believe that risk-taking and a happy-go-lucky attitude (i.e. assumption that everyone was 'OK' so long as he/she looked 'OK') were dangerously prevalent

JackDunphy409 reads

As I think it is very bad advice.

If you were just speaking for yourself, how you would take that approach by a guy, that would be one thing. But this seems to be a newbie board thread that just happened to stay on the GD.

Many, many women would ignore, DNS him or worse. He seems like a rook based on his question and his one, recent review, and what you are advocating/suggesting should only be done by a grizzled vet here, imo.

I don't know too many escorts who want to see self described "paranoids" either.

VOO-doo454 reads

but I think his concern is reasonable. I did advise him that not all providers would be receptive.  

But lately, I've heard a few (not many) providers say that they're willing to share test results.

I'm actually hoping (and have hoped, for a long time) that it's a trend that will catch on.  

Of course, we should all remain aware that test results are not a 100% guarantee of anything.  

But it's better than 'Oh, let's just assume that, since she has 13 pages of 10-10's, everything must be on the up-and-up.' (LOL)

I'm personally reassured when a guy shows concern for his safety with me (or any sex worker). I'd feel the same way (and I do feel that way about engaging with clients).  

My post is also motivated specifically by what I've seen in this business since ~2008, in terms of risk-taking, recklessness, greed, ignorance, and denial (on both sides of the coin)

JackDunphy453 reads

...while you did tell him not all the gals would be receptive, you also gave him a 3 point plan anyway that he can take as a road map to possibly land himself in hot water.  

With him most likely being a newb, he may not be fully aware of all the repercussions to such a plan.

Your advice is usually spot on and I just thought this time you were off base.

GaGambler450 reads

Jack raises a valid point that giving him even the slightest encouragement to ask such a question could do a lot more harm than good.

MANY providers consider any such question as an attempt by a potential LE to "trap" her into admitting sex is "on the menu" and the very question will get the guy on many DNS lists.

I would advise the guy not to ask such questions.

VOO-doo448 reads

but there are a few girls who've said here that they'll show test results (with the name obscured).  

I've been asked before, post-screening. I'm fine with it, so long as he's respectful (not whorephobic), and it's clear that he's paranoid rather than trying to push for unprotected services (paranoia regarding STI's is actually pretty common for a newbie client, especially those who are married)

JakeFromStateFarm483 reads

If she's been tested with positive results do you really think she'll tell you?

She can't tell you what she doesn't know. If she knows she's positive but still advertising and taking bookings, she's not gonna tell you just because you asked.

I guess the best one could hope for is for her to be honest if she never tests or hasn't for a long time, then if you're paranoid -- don't book. Risking a blacklist though.

The possible responses to that question:
1) She ignores you.
2) She is annoyed that you would even ask, and puts you on a DNS list.
3) She hasn't tested at all or not in a long time and has no idea of her status so she tells you she tested and is negative.
4) She has tested positive but she tells you she is negative.
5) She tested negative and tells you she is negative.

You would hope that if someone tests positive that they would get out of the business, (at least temporarily, until it is cured if it is one of the curable STDs), but you never know.  

I don't see a scenario where someone who tested positive will say "Yes, I was tested and tested positive for ..."

Another thing is since this hobby is all about discretion and providers very tarely share their real identities with a client, even if she showed printed results, how do you know they are hers? Or even real?

I don't offer anything that we might share body fluid to exchange an STD, but at the same time if a client asks me for my health tests I will be a little hesitant to share them just because I've never had to do that before.  

I wouldn't want to share the name on the tests, but you can see the results. That doesn't mean I will offer more services than what I'm comfortable doing.

I gave a smart-ass answer above.  If you pick well-reviewed reputable providers, then you don't need to ask.  They're professionals who test regularly and know how to remain safe between tests.  If you're trolling BP and Craigs List for low-priced girls, then you takes your chances accordingly.

VOO-doo340 reads

I've known uspcale, well-reviewed (even very highly reviewed) providers who were well-reviewed specifically BECAUSE they offered bare services. In case you missed it, there is a known correlation  between extremely high reviews and BBFS. (I'm not saying the correlation applies to all providers - I've had a sprinkling of 10's myself and BBFS has never been involved - but it's common enough to have been discussed here MANY times.)

As for girls being 'professionals' who know how to take care of themselves, that varies widely. It's certainly true of some providers.  

However, I've heard some of the most ignorant statements come out of the mouths of well-reviewed, 'upscale,' experienced providers - some of whom were well-established in the community, and well-known. Among the gems I was told:

"If he looks clean, chances are he is clean."
"Spermicide kills all STD's."

I've even heard of experienced girls using another less experienced friend as a sort of canary in the coal mine. (Yes, this was in 'reputable' TER-world.)

As for testing... don't ever assume anything. This varies widely - as you know, not all girls are responsible. A lot of girls I've met didn't have health insurance, and would never pony up the $$ to test monthly (or tri-monthly, or whatever) at a facility, unless they were experiencing an emergency.

-- Modified on 12/19/2016 7:06:29 AM

For starters, unless she knows you (and trusts you..), she doesn't want you to know her real name - and without a real name, a test result is meaningless.  And if she does know you - honestly, it's a bit late.  

Are you planning on providing her your test results?

Are you planning on unsafe activities?

As a practical matter, she's just not going to put up with it.  NEXT...

I get tested often and have never tested positive for any STD, not even HPV  (which surprised me because I'm not a virgin and statistics say about every sexually active person has it).
 I get tested in my real name, from my doctor that my insurance covers. So, if a client wants to see my results, I will get tested just for them. It cost about $200 for the complete panel and I request the client pays.  I prefer to use an online test with password. The client uses the password to check my results straight from the lab. That way there's no forging false reports.  
So far, I've only been asked to do this once.  
Regardless, I still use protection even if the client shows a clean test result

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