I would guess that any man who would have to pay a working woman to go on a vacation trip with him is very needy.

Granted, I don't get the guys who will take someone they just met (or worse, haven't met!). But if they have a well-established and mutually enjoyable relationship, then I don't see why not. Sure, one can always try to set up dates at the destination, but that can sometimes be a pain, those dates can fall through, and sometimes you want to be with someone you're fully comfortable with.  

I can't imagine anyone can be on 24/7 days on end.  

If I can't stand someone, I am not going to see them period. I've struggled financially before, and trust me.. it builds character. I would rather eat Ramen Noodles for a week than have to look at myself after being with someone I truly despised, unless it was revenge sex with an ex lol.  

I love the way you phrase it, as if me being a "working woman" somehow makes me unfit to travel, lol!

...but I wouldn't make a categorical statement about all clients who go this route. The guys who would make her work for every penny and need around the clock attention are indeed losers. But are you really incapable of imagining how this could also be a mutually enjoyable engagement? For example, I can go boating in the Caribbean with my brother/buddy, or I can bring along that hot lady I've been having crazy fun with for the last six months. Makes sense to me.  

I know that the women are working here.  I said so in my post.

do you just feel like being insulting, putting down said gentlemen the way you did?

How is paying a working woman to go somewhere not transactional?  

but those are friends who don't expect, nor would fathom getting paid.  Why you feel the need to place prostitutes as equals to friends with benefits says a lot about your lack of self-esteem.

How is paying a working woman for an hour any less transactional? The money exchange is always transactional, doesn't mean the experience has to be.

You have even confirmed this with your own post.  

Ask any john why they do what they do...friends with benefits (no pay) DOESN'T WORK. Over time, sometimes even after the first time, one side ends up wanting more, it always ends poorly. Guys are paying for no-strings fun. How am I lesser than some ho that's going to give it away for free and then whine & cry that she wants him to leave his family for her?! Bahahaha! You're funny, Lee!!!

WORD!!!

I'm never paying anyone to spend time with me...I don't even understand why people do overnights either. I pay to fuck and that is where it ends.

How is paying a woman to pretend to like you not transactional?

and your mind is so closed to the many possibilities and nuances of the friendships and relationships that can be formed in this little hobby world.

How do my bad apples constitute your post about someone having no friends?! My God you are ill...

So then if all the women here suck and all the men are dumb, WTF are you doing here Mr. Holier Than Thou?!

ahaha! Who wouldn't LOVE tits with applesauce? I'm guessing Lee wouldn't, if he had to pay for it, lmao!!!
 

Posted By: DebbieNoonerGirl

Posted By: Alexandra Kole

.......Jesus Tits with Applesauce Christ.....  
 

   
 I LOVE that one! Cuz if you're gonna blaspheme, do it with STYLE!  
   
 Have you already trademarked that phrase, or may I borrow it??  

Wow...talk about pot>kettle>black

Maybe you have some friends that pay you to eat as well?

And when the working women like you post how much they dislike their customers I can pass that information on to those who actually care about it.

I do know you...and you know me...and a bunch of my friends.

Isn't that the purpose of my thread?

Even in your "fucking" hour, you're paying them for your time. I will agree that not all guys have the financial means, or even the desire to take a girl on vacay, and that's alright, but for the OP to insult those that do and call them needy and having no friends is too far and not the same as you simply just not being interested in a vacation trip with a girl...

So the women that you pay...are pretending to like you too??? Wow, so you're repeat visits to them when you know they must think of you as a dipshit must be excruciating. Why do you continue to pay? Why don't you get a friend with benefits, bahahaha?

I do have friends whose donations indeed paid for my applesauce consumption ;

Okay, I get your density by now, however, let's re-visit my actual words...

Come on, General... I think you're painting with a pretty large brush there and being a little judgmental. We all have our reasons, likes and dislikes for how we play. No one way is any better or worse than any other. You can play the way you like, and the rest of us will play the way we want ...and if that includes taking a lady along for a vacation, then that's our prerogative. SMDH.  

Yea, sure, Lee, nice try though ; )

Either you feel shame for engaging in P4P, or you're trying to shame those who do. Fling away, buddy, I don't care - I'm having a blast in this realm, and I know quite well that I'm not the only one.  

You would be surprised at 'what kind of men do this." Start with CEOs, Doctors, or any other man who is away from his wife over 100 days out of the year and she is busy taking care of the children so she can't travel with him. Why do you pay for it at all? My guess is for no drama and no strings attached, then the bitch leaves afterwards. Well, that's the very same reason a guy would pay to take a provider on vacation vs. a friend. Friends come with baggage and he's not guaranteed sex when he wants it, either.

No, the purpose of your thread was to insult guys that have the financial means and desire to do what you can't.

Couldn't the same be said about you posting of a fk board? Hate to break it to ya, but all of my guy friends say the same shit about hobbyists... that you are all desperate, ugly and insecure. Is that true of yourself? Then, it's not always true about other guys. Project much? Heh.

Once again...WORD!!!

Looks like you paid for companionship at least 12 times. So you like short dates with no frills. You still paid for the lady to spend time with you. Some guys enjoy more than just a quickie. They are willing to pay for a greater amount of time. People pay for all types of entertainment. Some you will understand. Some you will not.  
There are things that i do not find entertaining so I don't understand why someone would pay to be entertained in that way. But i don't have any anger toward them and feel the need to blast them on a public form. I don't understand why people will pay money to watch someone else play golf. But they do, and that just makes me feel great for the golfers that they can do what they love and someone is willing to pay them to do it.  

The answer is the same kind of man who sees women in any P4P setting and time frame.   Two questions:

lol, you do not know me to be able to make that conclusion.  

I am all for a guy who only wants sex but he's going to pay a premium for that service. Ever notice that most providers will drop their rates for dinner dates? There is a reason for that. I am not putting down anyone who only wants sex, and I get many of you have to keep things on a purely physical level because it makes you feel less invested or guilty... those who are married, I mean. Many men just can't fathom being that invested in a P4P date, and I totally get and respect that. OTOH, I would never offer some quickie. If they want just sex, there is a premium tag that goes with it.

I could, I would!!   You know, some of us have the means AND the desire to take a girl on vacay, but due to a SO it's impossible.  I can say, having spent time with Miss Kole, that it would be a complete blast to travel with her. For some of us, the 'non-fucking' time is equally as important......and.....she's not a dipshit!!!

I like you London, you are a reasonable hooker :P

When anyone has to pay for a friend why should they be surprised that the payee is pretending?

wants a sure thing with no worries on the trip. And maybe he want a woman who is out of his league in civie life.

I would expect any prudent person to extrapolate that I am either a pathetically horrible businessperson that despises my customers.

Answer the question already!

I meant every word. Just because I'm paying for sex doesn't mean I don't enjoy talking to them or can't think they are sweet people. The conversation and the sweetness are just not what I'm there for

I don't care what the guy does for a living.

I'll bet you don't say those nasty things to the johns that see you.  At least not to their face.

Whenever you use "all" signifies you've lost the battle.

No...you can't

is that one makes you feel good and the other helps you to grow. Perhaps you might consider more what you'd like to learn than just what you want to say.

Or you better ask TER to remove your reviews.

She has stated on a number of posts that some of her johns are indeed dipshits.

Would it be less offensive if I ask What type of women are prostitutes?

Would you go in a Church and ask why there is praise and worship? So, do you see how idiotic it is to ask an escort audience why men pay them to travel? Nuff said.  

for her thoughts is a waste of money.

what type of guy pays a working woman to go on vacation.  Especially on a board like this I would think that someone took a working woman on a trip.  At least some claim to have done so.

Did you ever consider it's more about us, than about them? Now, I am with you if a guy IS truly deluded and thinks I would ever fk his ass for free lol, but what is so wrong going into this thing knowing full well she's a hooker and paying to go have some laughs and a good time with someone you get along with? He knows she has bills and respects that. He also knows she is not looking to fall in love, nor is he. I know full well the men you are talking about and agree, they are out there. Every time I see another "I fell for a hooker" thread, I nearly piss my pants, but those guys are not the majorty ha ha. They sure as hell don't see me. I make no bones about what this is, and I am not going to sit here and blow smoke up your ass. I don't need to downplay my role here, because it is not my only job nor who I am as a person. London Rayne is a character, nothing more.

If you want to discuss semantics, I'm using "transactional" in the rote, mechanistic sense, not the literal "process of exchange." But I get that the use of metaphor is over your head.  

Is there a gene that makes someone secure?

Coming from you that means a lot to me

But since you and a few others are so focused on means it surely tells me about you.

I love it at the end of a Chinese dinner when I get to read one of your sayings

You asked two.  Well, technically three.  LOL.

Yes, exactly, icing on the cake is a good way to phrase it.

They would be boring to a guy that doesn't know what any of it means ; )

Precisely why once a dipshit is uncovered, said dipshit is never seen again, therefore, they aren't a customer. It's really that simple. Not understanding why it's so hard for you to comprehend that the dipshits have comprised a very small pool in my otherwise fabulous clientele. That goes for every lady here. No one has had all A+ experiences.

We've already covered this ground. The payment is always transactional, but the experience shouldn't be. DERP!!!

The type of guy is the type that can.

SuperD8=FANTASTIC gentleman I cannot wait to see again upon my return to his fair city!!!

Uh, duh, financial means is why I started doing it. Enjoyment is why I continue to do it. Dipshit!

They certainly were customers.  Unless you are capable of knowing this in advance and you are also clairvoyant?  And if so, then you would never have seen said dipshit to start with.  Hence, he would never have been a customer.

A rhetorical question demands no response.

That I am or was a customer of yours that you didn't want to tell me I'm a dipshit to my face?

You don't know me, yet you claim to...

Care to define what type of guy we are now discussing?

See, I don't have to see someone to know they are a dipshit, thank you for proving what you said I couldn't do. I've never seen you, yet I know you're a dipshit.  

Just the same way you now are kissing up to SuperD8.  It's a business, that's OK.

The same guy as you are. One that can. Period. What makes you any different than he? You both pay for companionship. Whether an hour or a week.

when a simple FU would have sufficed.

The fact that I would see SuperD8 again confirms he's not a dipshit. I don't have to kiss anybody's ass. There are dipshits I've had no problem telling to fuck off.  My fuck off=You're a dipshit.

Bahahahaha ha! Awesome ; )

Did I mention how small a world this is?  Yes I did!

What?! That I've seen dipshits? Sure I tell them, why not?

For an hour or so it's easy to just do what I came for.  Same for you.

I happen to know SuperD8 and know he's a good guy.

You pay too. You are in the same boat. Who cares if a guy pays a gal for a vacation? So you must think guys who do overnights are lame too? It's his money to do what he wishes.

Earlier you posted that you don't see a dipshit twice.

He's a nice fella.  But be forewarned, he's one of those that is very needy.

But I do have many friends.  Friends that don't charge for being friends.

As I occasionally enjoy paying ladies to eat sleep and tan by the pool.

U.S. Grant. You're his bitch boy

Why have you no reviews?

Funny thing is she feel for me too. Of course I was never her client and she fucked me for only the low cost of loving her. (Sex is never free for us guys.)

I think you are making some assumptions that may not be true.  For example, you may be assuming that the money is an issue.  You may be assuming that getting the time for a vacation is an issue.    That isn't necessarily the case....  The guy might be able to go with his buddies to Gstaad for a week of skiing.   A few rounds of golf in Scotland in the summer.  Then turn around and get a weekend with his mistress/provider in Key West...  And, honestly, providers are a LOT cheaper than mistresses... or wives....as Tiger Woods would tell you.  

You pay for a pretend girlfriend, how is that different than someone paying just for the company? Loneliness, horniness...both are paying for that woman to be there. And neither are real.

I don't think the guys who take hookers on vacation can be summed up by their actions any more than the hookers who charge a shitload for it can. Yeah maybe some of those guys have no friends, and maybe some of them just want a hot chick to be at their disposal for a few days and can afford to dish out the dough. There's no one-size-fits-all rationale for it.  

That has waaay more risk than most other things.

CP is actually young, handsome and hella cool. If he can afford to take a hot chick on vacation instead of going to church, why wouldn't he?

LMAO... I can't poop with a dude there either ha ha ha. I do not know how anyone can live in a one bedroom/one bath place with another person. I would be dead in a week.

I am going on an 8-day trip with my favorite provider soon and I am really looking forward to it.  

You up for June's Woman of the Month? Got my vote.

Our little pineta will be back soon.

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I do not care what someone else does with their cash and how they spend it.
 
    It is not my business but it sure seems to be yours.

You're glad that some of the women here state that they can't stand being with the guys?  Why would you be glad?  No hobbyist would be glad with that.

You shouldn't substitute imagination for rational thinking here.

What type of man takes a working woman on vacation?  Simple: the same type of many who sees her for an hour.  
 Or put another way, no one seems to question whether or not this is a great restaurant to dine at.  The question is do we order appetizers or a full course dinner?   But believe me, if you pay for an hour you're no different than someone who pays for a week in terms of neediness.    

didn't someone say that once on the internet?  

very very needy.  I would love to take one of my ATFs on a vacation....if only I could afford it.  and yes, I have no friends-especially friends with benefits.

She might be fucking in that time BUT she is still there and it still takes time.

You sound like an idiot.

While Lee is an idiot, there is no such things as leagues or even civie life. Women are all the same. It is a matter of methods

I would venture out and guess the kind that enjoys my company and is able to see that our relationship extends past a traditional hooker and trick role. I personally wouldn't spend any amount of time with someone who views me as just another hooker. If we are able to have enough trust and patience with each other to plan a vacation together there has to be mutual respect and understanding. Whether they have friends, kids, a wife is all arbitrary because if they are setting up a vacation get-a-way with me there must be a spark there and a reason beyond my sexual appeal to keep me around. If I couldn't stand some one the last thing I'd do is go on a vacation with them. I have turned down vacation request from people because the connection was not there for me. There's more to it than "You're paying so I'm going.". Every guy that solicits a provider is NOT just a trick just as every girl who provides a service is not just a desperate  hooker!