I've met some remarkable women during this journey and have repeated with several of them. The key is a mutual enjoyment of our time together. For me it's that simple. That's what I love about this playground, you are free to play the field and meet new friends, but can also enjoy repeat visits with those that you seem to share a deeper understanding and connection with. Sometimes you can have your cake and eat it too... 😎
because I really only use TER to check out the Boards. I have only researched one provider in a long time and never even met her.
I think I am ready for just one long term ATF again. The last one lasted a long time and had moments of greatness but didn't end well.
Do most of you Hobbyist prefer variety all the time, an ATF with an emotional connection (or the fantasy that there is one) or some hybrid?
There are ladies I've been seeing since 2010. Sometimes it may be 6 months or a year between visits. I always see some new ladies too. Often a few new ladies will become one of my favorites.
I've met some remarkable women during this journey and have repeated with several of them. The key is a mutual enjoyment of our time together. For me it's that simple. That's what I love about this playground, you are free to play the field and meet new friends, but can also enjoy repeat visits with those that you seem to share a deeper understanding and connection with. Sometimes you can have your cake and eat it too... 😎
is already made up ... short of the announcement.
Slippery slope, I think the guys back out of these
relationships as much if not more than the ladies.
So I feel for the gals looking for the same thing,
based on what I've heard thru the grapevine. In
any event, best of luck and loving in any endeavor,
IRL or in the Hobby.
We get spoiled and bored very easily. ... IMHO
Interesting view regarding the ladies. I don't agree based on my experiences but I am sure others had different outcomes.
...The emotional connection you think she's displaying for you is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgxWPxXczzA
And not only is she a master thespian, sometimes she is a masturbating lesbian.
Why do you think the ones who have "fallen and can't get up" in this thing of ours are invariably male?
My take on your post is that it's probably not really helpful what others' approach to the hobby is beyond whatever assistance it offers in clarifying your needs for getting into this experience and what you want to get out of it or other relationships in the future.
Kinda sounds like you want to have a "real", long terms relationship that's got some protection built in. Of course I don't know if you had a real relationship outside the hobby (wife and family?) or if your hobbying is a something of a substitute for that relationship (that maybe is very elusive if you have to travel most of the time).
there is no emotional nourishment to be had in the hobby.
the best you can ask for is "man, i was on fire tonight! she made me cum 4 times! i am such a man!"
maybe... MAYBE ... she's friendly towards you and is considerate of your particular needs.
but for honest emotional connection, you want a civvie, with all the baggage that entails.
"baggage? she came with a cargo container!"
"issues? she's got whole subscriptions!"
the best you can ask for is "man, i was on fire tonight! she made me cum 4 times! i am such a man!"
maybe... MAYBE ... she's friendly towards you and is considerate of your particular needs.
but for honest emotional connection, you want a civvie, with all the baggage that entails.
"baggage? she came with a cargo container!"
"issues? she's got whole subscriptions!"
I think plenty of adequate emotional nourishment can be had in the demimonde. You just have to know how to find it, and be clear on expectations and boundaries. I have very loving relationships with many of my friends, deeply fulfilling on many levels. Nobody's going to leave their wife, and I'm certainly not interested in that. But when both parties understand our limitations for engagement, wonderful things can happen. It's no replacement or substitute for a RLR, but it sure can be lots of additional fun.
i think y ou and i are defining "emotional nourishment" in different terms.
obviously everything we do carries emotional weight. and when what we do is physical intimacy, there is emotional weight inherently built into it, on both sides of the bed.
and certainly, when i'm with friends, either civvie friends or hobby friends, when they are nice and giving to me, i get emotional nourishment.
but i am thinking that the op is looking for more than nice, friendly gestures from friends. i think he needs a rlr.
i will grant you that there is emotional nourishment to be had in the moment, but what i so inartfully was describing was the fact that you aren't going to get that emotional nourishment when you need it, or for free in terms of wallet size.
which is the kind of emotional nourishment i think the op is looking for.
i could be wrong, i was once before.
Variety in is nice. So is seeing a provider regularly. Either way, finding the right provider is a lot easier if the profile and reviews are legit.
There are many providers on the board who are dishonest on their profile. Waist, bust, hips and services offered. The waist, bust and hips could be explained away by the passage of tie and weight gain. What about photo shop on steroids - chopping off flab, lots of weight and lots of inches? What about a provider stating on her profile that she does stuff that she won't do ? It's to get better ratings. You'd expect these games on BP. But, it's too bad it's starting to happen here.
There's one provider on the boards whose reviews started slipping last fall. She cancelled a tour and went underground
for a while. She changed her name and transferred her profile to the new name. Then she demanded in the ads announcing her return after a 2 or 3 month break that clients who wanted to see her were not allowed to post reviews. Here's the INCREDIBLE COINCIDENCE: Just 2 or 3 days before the start of that tour (after a break of several months) she gets a 10/10 review from a guy who has never posted a review. Either before or since. He posted the review. AFTER she announced that she wouldn't accept any reviews. BEFORE she arrived. Wanna bet that's a scam?
I used to enjoy variety. But, I fell victim too many times to BS reviews and BS profiles. When I find a good provider with an accurate profile and legit reviews I repeat a lot. Why take the chance with someone else? If I want to gamble, I'll try BP or hit the casino.
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The information on our profiles is provided by you guys. We can not create our own profile or modify it. I watched bits and pieces of mine get filled in as time passed and I got more reviews. I don't know how TER decides what is accurate and when to update. We can submit a problem report and ask TER to update, but that the most control we have.
I realized I had to keep an eye on the info when after a few months some of it had changed and was not accurate. If the lady is not checking she wount know it's wrong. On here it's not a conscious effort to deceive, people just have different perceptions of waist, cup size etc.
There are many providers on the board who are dishonest on their profile. Waist, bust, hips and services offered. The waist, bust and hips could be explained away by the passage of tie and weight gain. What about photo shop on steroids - chopping off flab, lots of weight and lots of inches? What about a provider stating on her profile that she does stuff that she won't do ? It's to get better ratings. You'd expect these games on BP. But, it's too bad it's starting to happen here.
Providers have a lot of ability to correct and add to their profiles. Including waist, bust, hips, age, rates, contact information and - most importantly - what services they offer. As to fake bust, waist and hip measurements, is it a coincidence that the providers ads and website state the same inaccurate measurements as her profile?
Only the providers post photos. So, it's on her if the pictures are made by photo shopping on steroids.
Finally, BS reviews - submitted at a providers request after a crappy review - are REALLY common.
the Newbie Board and you will find that the lady is correct. The first reviewer establishes the profile. Providers often to not update their age and sometimes not other info either.
You are correct in that having accurate photos is the providers responsibility. The better providers update photos every 6 months or so.
you wrote your first review.
It's fine to disagree. But, snarky attacks - which are simply wrong- don't help support your point of view.
KK's first review was in 2003 which was about 3 1/2 years from the start of TER which was a small review board at first, so your claim to be around TER since "long" before KKs first review? Yeah, BS! KK has a 13 year history here, you a few months. Many of us mature mongers have been around for years. I've got 40+ years since first partaking in the worlds “oldest profession”. A post to boast that you have so much TER experience considering your known TER history is a futile and purely ego driven play, imo. Your posts on this thread represent your first 3 posts EVER on the GD board. Zero on the cred meter.
BTW, the young lady WAS correct. Women are free to file "problem reports" if they think their TER profiles are not accurate. They have no control...zero...as to whether TER Admin actually makes those requested changes. If you have been around here as long as you claim, you would have known that. LMAO
Thanks for playing.
It's fine to disagree. But, snarky attacks - which are simply wrong- don't help support your point of view.
You are correct in that having accurate photos is the providers responsibility. The better providers update photos every 6 months or so.
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I also disagree about "snarky attacks" subtlety is often wasted here, most of the time people have to be hit over the head with a two by four for them to understand. Being "snarky" is often an effective and necessary way of accomplishing that.
As far as credibility goes, It's not even a contest between KK and nutjob. Three posts and three reviews vs 13 years here using the same handle. Contest, what contest?
You've been here forever and are clueless. Shocking right?
I don't get fake reviews. Why would anyone want to raise expectations that will not be met. I guess they're not comfortable with what they truly have to offer.
I mean a meh review brings me about the same business than a "good" review when it gets out to the top of the list
I would hate having people expecting I do something that I don't, and jve ran into that problem with a REAL review, just over the top.
Also ter is really good about changing things fast when you submit a problem report.I had to change 3-4 things and they did it in the same report.
I see anymore. We probably spend more time off the clock than on the cock.
Variety is good, but being assured of a great time, even if predictable can't be beat.
I almost always have one ATF regular or two to see on a regular basis. Then for change of pace I "audition" new talents every now and then
As soon as I figure it out.
I have my ATF that I'll always see. I do see other ladies on the side. Massages and Oral Satisfaction. I do have an emotional connection to my ATF. She'll never replace the other ladies I see.
Mostly log on to check the regional ad board. But yes sometimes I get bored. I think with too much happy stimulation too often for too long a time the pleasure center in the brain burns out and the dopamine just stops blasting off each time. That's when it's time to just stop everything for awhile and focus only on work and nourishment...and sleep......
Take a break and see how you feel in a couple weeks.
I think I am ready for just one long term ATF again. The last one lasted a long time and had moments of greatness but didn't end well.
Do most of you Hobbyist prefer variety all the time, an ATF with an emotional connection (or the fantasy that there is one) or some hybrid?
I have a very limited few hours a week when I am available. Finding not only a pretty and well reviewed provider as well as fitting me into the time slot makes things difficult, especially if you don't want to go into the closest metropolitan area (NYC in my case). Touring gals many times dont like doing an hour out in the sticks. The local gals are many times not the ones you want to see, or have seen too much of. Lately I have been sticking to a small circle of favorites. Since I only see providers once month on average that means I might see ine of these favorites maybe 2-4 times a year at most. The last couple of touring ladies I have tried to see in NYC either couldnt find a way to book me in my timeslot without losing money or simply cancelled last minute making me scramble for a replacement so my trip into the city wasnt a total loss. (Crisis resolvrd, found a nice gal that day) but last minute is not my game.
(to me) provider in every so often. On average I would say about 2/3 of my business is with repeat ladies, rotating the repeat ladies among about half dozen of my favorite ladies.
Yes, variety is one of the great reasons to enjoy P4P.
Yes, probably similar ratio of newbie (to me) vs favs. Once in a while seeing someone new is nice but generally I stick to tried and true.
Perhaps you tried the sugarbowl, but gave up quickly. A lot of mongers mistakenly approach an SB like a hooker. Bad play. Over on the Erotic Highway board, several of us have posted on the Sugarbowl. There are old threads here on GD as well that you can search for. Good luck. --z
I like variety as well. I had a ATF but she went underground. I have another ATF but she lives a couple of hours away. I enjoy using an "agency" but that can be hit or miss. So, I take a break here and there, knowing that as long as I am patient there will be another ATF.
I have altered my expectations as well. I go with my mood and what kind of experience I want. When I want a connection then I am more patient.
I feel that when I am patient (and waiting or working on building an ATF) I can explore other avenues (e.g., MP, Strip club) with enjoyment
"unspoken rules" are holding me back
I think I am ready for just one long term ATF again. The last one lasted a long time and had moments of greatness but didn't end well.
Do most of you Hobbyist prefer variety all the time, an ATF with an emotional connection (or the fantasy that there is one) or some hybrid?
But there is one service provider I would not hesitate to date again.