But there are many guys who will talk about wanting this, that or the other thing. But too often they walk in to the incall and submit to the gals "routine" for fear of rejection (or something else?).
Honestly most gals wouldn't want a bondage session on the first date. But I also know that there are many who will allow that (trust me on this one sweetie). But even other types of activities that a guy may really want...as many have told me they would love a 2 hour T&D BBBJ. But so often they don't know how or are afraid to ask for it. So the typical reviews posted are such that they appear to be "cookie cutter" reviews. I get that...and many guys who have seen a gal more than once will eventually muster the courage to ask for what he really wants. And more often than not it's never reviewed. This OP was more a PSA for guys who may not realize that all they need do is express to a gal what he really wants to do. More than likely it will be granted.Even though I have toys set out, I would guess that maybe 3% ask to use them, and I don't let anyone tie me up on a first visit. So, I don't know what else you might think would deviate so far from the usual, but it is refreshing when someone comes in with their own plan in mind for a change.
You have to realize that most men come to see us wanting us to take control and do "our thing" to them. I would say that's at least 85% of who I see. But I welcome the 15% who come in and take the lead, as long as it's done in a respectful manner. I do enjoy being submissive with a very small percentage of men, but most are better off leading in a gentle manner...so head holders, beware.
Take any gal at random and read the reviews (or scan as it's too tough to read the drivel quite often)....You decide you like the pics and menu and go see her.
And she simply has a routine just like all the others....and it's got nothing to do with you.
Or you really found her routine works and add to her collection.
Do you try and take her out of that "comfort zone" to play the way you really want to play? How does she respond to that?
Coopers of my generation weren't always gay... he could take me out of my comfort zone any day of the week lol...damn.
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But I do appreciate it when a provider takes a moment to read my P411 profile or one of my reviews and she seems to know what I like and what I prefer.
These are the ladies I am most likely to see again.
Seems reasonable that when "I" (the client) fail to vocalize my preferences, she will go to the tried&true...
Yes, it would be great if each one of them had a mind-blowing unique approach, but that is asking for a lot (let's face it, these girls see a few of us each day - it must become routine for them too).
Often, I am happy to go with the flow and the successful happy ending (the lazy approach).
Every time that I have suggested something special or different, it was met with happy acquiescence and even better results. There are still a couple of things left in my bucket list... ![]()
If you don't ask, the answer is always NO. A slight variation of that is if you don't ask, you will never know...
Some girls will be willing to do crazy things (still within the boundaries of safe sex), although they may not necessarily advertise them for various reasons. One just has to go a extra step and ask them.
One of the craziest and kinkiest session I have had is with someone I found through a referral. Some people aside from being NOT outgoing, could be just interested in vanilla sex, and I'm OK with that. But those who are willing to pay big bucks, but too afraid to open their mouth and ask amuse me.
What if she tells me to go fuck myself?
If I could do that I guess I wouldn't have to ask a gal to do that for me LOL
I am not shy as you well know....I have NO problems asking in initial correspondence if a gal is up for some TER Hooker Jeopardy. Yea yea I know too many weenie boys won't bring that shit up...but I prefer to know so as to not be a time waster. And guess what...haven't had one gal shut me down with that type of inquiry. Doesn't mean they would play...but certainly I prefer to know in advance instead of doing the dance and wasting MY time....let alone dollars
Perhaps I should see if I can set up a Tournament of Champions version. Could really get interesting as we get to Double Jeopardy
If all I'm looking for is a typical GFE session...well, there are too many other variables that we can play that generally is not showing up in a review. I still like to know how "open minded" a gal really is. I've known too many who claim to be...but are not.
That definition revolves around not judging someone when they're looking to talk about fantasies and life in general. Not letting them tie me up and whip me/choke me lol
And to allow anyone to play with asphyxiation can be a bit dangerous. I've not really explored that part of BDSM as that does concern me somewhat. Only if I was taught how to use breath control properly would I ever consider that in play.
But I'm pretty adept with ropes, et al.
How about a nice TENS unit as well?
Have you tried sploshing (google it if you don't know) yet? Perhaps in lieu of lunch?
I'll PM about that lol. Very interesting session. You could probably handle the info but I don't know if it's appropriate to put on here lol. I asked him not to review me for a reason lol, along with a few other guys.
You know, a lot of men are very vanilla. A lot of men who are a little freaky don't review. That may be why you see it.
I'm sure guys leave stuff out they don't want other guys to know they did. If fellas would agree, many I've seen say they have a tough time with reviews bc it's very personal. Even under an alias bc this is a community in a sense. You enter it as your 'TER' identity, and here, that's who you are.
Good actors. Do you think they act well because they, while being filmed, become that character? I would think so here as well.
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But it is very interesting to play with food...it's a fucking blast.
And yep...most guys won't put in a review anything outside of the typical "routine shit". And for generally good reasons
Just that when guys ask around if so and so will do such and such....most are just weenie boys afraid to say to the gal..."Can we do this or that"? And then there are the gals who really are so OCD that they are not interested in anything out of the routine.
You know, a lot of men are very vanilla. A lot of men who are a little freaky don't review. That may be why you see it.
I'm sure guys leave stuff out they don't want other guys to know they did. If fellas would agree, many I've seen say they have a tough time with reviews bc it's very personal. Even under an alias bc this is a community in a sense. You enter it as your 'TER' identity, and here, that's who you are.
Good actors. Do you think they act well because they, while being filmed, become that character? I would think so here as well.
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1. I lost calories
2. Guys aren't always afraid to ask. That's the whole point of saying 'an open minded GFE'. It's an invitation to be comfortable asking. If I don't want to do it, I get why they have a fetish, I just don't feel comfortable with it at the time. YMMV. :
I'm not there to propose marriage, I'm not there to fall in love not even really there for any deep conversation. I"M THERE TO FUCK CIM, FACIAL, A LITTLE GREEK and get the fuck out. Less talking more fucking. And I like them better with a routine, less talking and explaining on my part again more fucking. And guy heres a clue, "you really dont have anything to say to her that shes interested in or hasnt heard a million times already (even if shes acting interested) Dont believe me? Start your deep conversation with "gee doll I,m about a C-note short on your donation" and see how much routine and conversation you get! LOL
I thought it was a fairly straight forward question to the masses here....but seems you are doing some serious projecting with your reply.
Just for grins I like a "special" type of session. They are rarely advertised and even more rarely reviewed (by me at least).
I doubt there is much I haven't tried with the gals over the years (which is over 25 years in this game now)....but often a gal might not be open to playing something that they haven't in the past. And guess what pal...many of the gals don't play the types of games I particularly enjoy. And for me that's a big part of the turn on.
If all YOU'RE doing is babbling with a gal...let me give you a clue. Don't pay for that shit. Buy a nice 2 hour session and then take them for dinner. No charge for the OTC and they'll talk your ear off about all kinds of shit. But to pay for it...sure hope you aren't doing that LOL
And your "routine" of CIM, facial and anal is exactly what I was discussing in the OP. Same routine in many gals repertoire. Try something creative now and let me know how she responds. You might actually find it more entertaining than the same old routine LOL
curious. And what 'types of games' are they exactly?
Do enlighten us please. What's on your mind CPA...something got you a bit on edge?
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My OP was asking if guys get "bored" with the same old that all the other guys write about with a gal. You know...the DFK followed by the BBBJ and then a position...maybe two.
Nothing at all wrong with that scene...considering that most reviews read like that. And having discussed with many a lady over the years they have their "set" routine which leaves them in a comfort zone.
But I like playing edgier types of games...that I know many vanilla players have NO interest in whatsoever. Some gals are curious...others have no interest for whatever reasons.
There are so many ways to spend a couple of hours exploring limits. Sometimes finding the types of gals that I want to play with who are also that adventurous can take some serious trial and error. If I wrote the reviews of some of the shit I've done with some of the gals....I guess some would find it interesting, while others would be scared LOL The good new is that there is NO shortage of gals who are really more evolved than the reviews would purport to indicate
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Each session is different, you have to determine what the gentleman likes, what turns you on, what would be appropriate and obviously is good to step out of the comfort zone sometimes, use mirrors, windows, showers, offer a lap dance, or more "naughty stuff" with precaution of course. You can ask providers anything but obviously she will always offer within her menu of services and within what she feels comfortable doing, but that is not "cookie cutted" is just standard procedures, you can always spice things up without following a routine, at least that is what I do.
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They all read the same....
Guy comes in..chat for a bit. Then some DFK followed by the BBBJ. On with a rubber and a position or two.
I would guess the sessions that don't follow that "script" are those that never get written.
Trust me..if we played the types of games I like there would NOT be a review as you wouldn't want to publicize certain activities for all the johns. And that's how I would like it as well.
Now if all you do is the same as what your reviews that are published, then that is a "cookie cutter" session. Same routine over and over and over.
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As one who's seen P numerous times you can be assured her sessions are NOT routine. But you've read the reviews. Thus I'll retreat.
Guy comes in..chat for a bit. Then some DFK followed by the BBBJ. On with a rubber and a position or two.
I would guess the sessions that don't follow that "script" are those that never get written.
Trust me..if we played the types of games I like there would NOT be a review as you wouldn't want to publicize certain activities for all the johns. And that's how I would like it as well.
Now if all you do is the same as what your reviews that are published, then that is a "cookie cutter" session. Same routine over and over and over.
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It wouldn't be in most gals best interest to advertise certain activities when they are promoting that they're GFE.
But since you don't have any reviews using this handle I'll trust that you wouldn't post something that the gal wouldn't want you to. Right?
Want to tell us which is your review of her? I can then read it...I suspect it says...Walked in..DFK...followed by BBBJ and had to have her...Mish and maybe some CG. Does that about sum it up? Seems that's her MO as the way her reviewers see it LOL
Guy comes in..chat for a bit. Then some DFK followed by the BBBJ. On with a rubber and a position or two.
I would guess the sessions that don't follow that "script" are those that never get written.
Trust me..if we played the types of games I like there would NOT be a review as you wouldn't want to publicize certain activities for all the johns. And that's how I would like it as well.
Now if all you do is the same as what your reviews that are published, then that is a "cookie cutter" session. Same routine over and over and over.
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The essence of the service and why men seek out to meet providers is pretty straight forward but not want accompanies the service itself, reason why this is also called "fantasy" because the surprise factor is undeniable and present. I do understand where you are coming from thus, I do feel that as providers, we aim to customize the session as much as possible, to make it unique and according to your preferences; obviously we resort to different outlets to spice things up such as offer variety of lingerie choices, toys, lap dance, move around the room etc.. At the end of the day, the core of the service is the same but as I mentioned, the activities surrounding the "final product" are what makes each session memorable and different.
I'd hope they'd just ask. I have some clients who share their non-routine desires and I love it! The session is truly what both parties make it and some enjoy routine sex, which is totally fine in my book too b/c like you said, it's sex after all and who doesn't like sex?!
t took me a long time to be comfortable enough to take control of a session. First there was finding out what really turnned me on as opposed to what I thought really turned me on. Then there was getting the confidence to ask for it and asking in a way that was ok with her. Now that I am able to do that, if I find she has a routine, as you say, and will not deviate then I move on. BTW, what I really like is pretty vanilla. I have been on a run as of late and the last 3 or 4 escorts I have seen have responded in spades. The last one did so despite somewhat of a language barrier. And when I returned she was better yet. My performance reviews reflect that. I was somewhat concerned about having a string of 10s but fuck it. They earned it!
And if the guy is OK with how a gal runs her session...it's not an issue. But if a fella wants a 2 hour BBBJCIM then he should let her know. I've had that and I gotta tell you it's an amazing session...assuming the gal knows how to really do a T&D (tease and denial). So many gals want to just get you off quickly so they can babble for the rest of your time it seems. And guys write that shit in reviews....WTF?
Plenty of vanilla type stuff a guy can ask for...and most gals will accommodate. Shit...some guys just want a DFK session. Might throw her off though LOL
I did a session where all I did for two fucking hours was use a Hitachi wand on my gal pal. It was a hoot watching her with that toy. And after two hours of that she was little more than a jiggling bowl of jello. I think she liked it though LOL
It took me a long time to be comfortable enough to take control of a session. First there was finding out what really turnned me on as opposed to what I thought really turned me on. Then there was getting the confidence to ask for it and asking in a way that was ok with her. Now that I am able to do that, if I find she has a routine, as you say, and will not deviate then I move on. BTW, what I really like is pretty vanilla. I have been on a run as of late and the last 3 or 4 escorts I have seen have responded in spades. The last one did so despite somewhat of a language barrier. And when I returned she was better yet. My performance reviews reflect that. I was somewhat concerned about having a string of 10s but fuck it. They earned it!
Most reviews make most sessions sound cookie cutter. Some reviews stand out because the two did something out of the ordinary. If I'm seeing a provider and she's done something unusual that I'd like to do, I'm hopeful that it can happen with me as well. I think those sorts of things are more spontaneous, though, and can't be replicated.
On one of my last dates, we spent the last hour of our three-hour session just playing with her vibrators. I'd already come, and knew it wasn't going to happen again. I had a blast playing with her toys, and she definitely enjoyed it. As we got into it, she was having me use two vibrators (one vagina and one clit) while she used another for her anus. It was better than a Lionel train set. Maybe most guys wouldn't pay for that, but I enjoyed it.
I also had a session with a gal where it was a duo. Her gal pal was also a ProDomme and we worked over the submissive gal for two fucking hours. No review on that one though LOL
Let's just say the poor submissive gal wanted to scream...but with a dildo gag that her gal pal put on her and the saran wrap bondage all she could do was wriggle a bit. The gal was sweating bullets with the vibrators that were relentless.
Honestly...it was one of the more intense scenes I've had the privilege of being involved in.
Oh...it wasn't spontaneous either. Something I wanted to do and made it happen. Ask...and ye shall receive.
On one of my last dates, we spent the last hour of our three-hour session just playing with her vibrators. I'd already come, and knew it wasn't going to happen again. I had a blast playing with her toys, and she definitely enjoyed it. As we got into it, she was having me use two vibrators (one vagina and one clit) while she used another for her anus. It was better than a Lionel train set. Maybe most guys wouldn't pay for that, but I enjoyed it.
how much fun can be had. Just takes a lil education gentlemen. And perhaps a little 'assertion' not 'insertion'. And I won't bore you all with my ridiculous 'dissertation' on this topic either lol.
Interesting can of worms for CPA to open...............hmmmmm
a certain protocol for her sessions. Once I realized this, I took charge and the activities were done in a different order and there was some new techniques used by both of us.
As Courtney said, "just ask".
That's both holes, right?
I d suggest we move on to heartily tossing each others salads.If a session with a john, escort, s.o, or any one is cookie cutter. You have to look in the mirror. Your just as boring to be an active participant in allowing the vanilla session to go that way. I HAVE HAD MY DAYS WHERE THE CLIENT COMES IN AND TURNS THE SESSION AROUND FOR THE BETTER. I TREAT EVERY FUCK LIKE A DANCE. NOT A PERSON PUSHING SOME ONE IN A WHEELCHAIR .
IF YOU LEAVE A SESSION AND ARE DISAPOINTED YOUR TO BLAME. I KNOW WHEN I PAY A WHORE TO BLOW AND FUCK MY LOVER. SHE DOESNT HAVE TIME TO BE COOKIE CUNT. I GRAB THAT BITCHES HAIR AND PUMMEL HER DOWN ON MY MANS BALLS. SUCK THAT DICK BITCH.you slut.Guys gotta know your paying us big money to do things the wife wont. So fucking advocate for your perverted ass in the app and suck it up. And stop bringing that stupid conundrum up that only rich pushovers that dont speak up get into those jams. The day I fork over three hun and dont leave feeling satisfied. That day will never com. Guys no escort is gonna bat an eye lash if you say bend my legs behind my head and pummul that finger in my keester llady and call me your bitch.hahaha........x
Cookie cutter is nice if I only have 1 hour to spend with you, but boring otherwise. Also it's not that interesting when she has the exact same pattern the second time we are together. That's the best way to guarantee there isn't a third time.
I have routines that have developed over time with certain providers, and they are honed to a perfection that I look forward to.
If the cookie has a lot of nuts and big chunks of interesting stuff, and is right out of the over warm, that can be quite interesting and fun.