I am one who loves certain providers. I would not hesitate to lend them money, and in one case have often offered to do so (although she never took me up on the offer). I would not hesitate to lend any of them more than the $100 you are talking about. A relatively small amount I would not expect to get back because that is how I define friendship.
A provider I'd gotten to know a bit outside of the business called me the other day to ask if I'd loan her a hundred dollars. I had to decline, of course. I think she thought I was in love with her. The moral of the story: In a business where the beautiful women trick the men into thinking they're in love with them, sometimes it works the other way and the men trick the women into thinking they've succeeded.
Several times I have "advanced" ladies money; each time the results have been disappointing. Often, "loan" ends up being thought of as a "gift".
I have loaned providers money and purchased things they needed. I have always gotten more than my money's worth back in trade. I had a free overnight in one case. In another instance she arranged a free double-header (that is, with another girl and her) as repayment for a sum that never would have covered that. One who was tight for money borrowed about 2.5 times what a session would have cost. I got five free sessions, all without time limits. It was always clear that I would get it back or the equivalent, but I never felt burnt. There have also been a couple of instances when I turned someone down because I didn't trust her and didn't plan to see her again or simply because I didn't have it. In each instance this was more than $100.
Back in the mid-90s, a woman I worked with got pregnant by a guy we worked with. He completely denied it, even so far as claiming he was still a virgin. Instead of moving as I had planned, I stayed and helped her through the pregnancy and beyond, much of it financially. I fell for her and her kids and dreamed of more, but after all was said and done, she told me she never saw me in that way. Never got all the money back and wound up going through bankruptcy because of it.
I've also loaned a dancer a hundred bucks for her vacation; never saw that money.
Hell, I loaned another woman three books a few years ago and I haven't seen them.
Loaning is just a bad idea.
As with most providers, you are paying for them to leave and/or leave you alone.
If they lose contact with you for 100 dollars, then you didnt need them anyway.
However, when 'loaning' money to a provider, I usually would consider it 'going, going, gone....' Have only done it once or twice, with mixed result.... Smokey the Mortgage Broker
With all due respect to the ladies, repaying a monetary loan in "trade" is too easy. You loan her $500, she has a fre evening and "repays" you. I don't consider that repayment, and she doesn't consider that fact that I might prefer (and/or need) the cash back. Also, the arithmetic doesn't work for me, sorry. A reasonably good lady should be making a pretty good income. On any given day, I doubt that I'm the only $600 session she's had. Add it up. If she needs to borrow a few hundred dollars it seems to me that it's a sign of a poor money manager. Which means that the likelihood of your ever seing that money again is slim. Which brings us back to payments in "trade." I hope I'm not being unfairly harsh, I realize that all of us have occasional emergencies. And, having said all that, I have, on a couple of occasions lent a lady some money. Still ...
I am one who loves certain providers. I would not hesitate to lend them money, and in one case have often offered to do so (although she never took me up on the offer). I would not hesitate to lend any of them more than the $100 you are talking about. A relatively small amount I would not expect to get back because that is how I define friendship.
And you are a customer.... And she is a retailer.... And a loan to the guy who owns your corner pet store or a/c repair place is the same as to a provider.... And if you EXPECT to get it back, you will likely be disappointed.... If you don't expect to get it back, you won't.... Smokey the Skeptic, but Still, I do Loan Them Money Sometimes....
There were some slow times while I was pregnant a few months back and I had a very great, and favorite gentlemen advance me some of my donation from our upcoming date, as he had done before. I still showed up to our first appointment and honestly still owe him some time in January because I was sick last month while he was here. I have never thought about not seeing him anymore and he advanced me wayyyyyyy more than anyone has spoken of in this thread. Asking for a loan might be a little sly way for some providers to just "take the money and run." However, if you have known her and possibly have already set an appointment for a later date, then she most likely will have no problem paying you back whether it be with money or her time. In this business our time is money and that is something that you gentlemen who have reviewed so many ladies should know. If you'd rather be paid in cash and are willing to "loan" money then make it clear you want it back in cash. It's very simple, if you don't feel comfortable doing it then don't. And for those that do I'm sure they have reaped ample benefits from it. Happy Turkey Day.
XOXOXOX
Tasha
well said Vegas. I loaned a provider $500.00 and told her I wanted it back in cash not trade. She lived up to her end of the bargain and paid me back within agreed upon time, and on my end of the bargain I never asked for extras but they were given to me and well appreciated.
Yes, you are right that generally speaking this is a business. But sometimes providers and clients have close personal relationships. I have such relationships with a few providers. If I did not, I would not lend them any money. I guess you do not have such relationships. Maybe it just shows how much more independent a person you are when compared to me.
But, in the long run, I believe my personal relationships are worth the investment of my time, money and emotion. That is my choice.
a difference to have a personal friendship that goes beyond the biz. I have many "clients" that I call and speak with on a regular basis just to say hi and see how they are doing and what's new and it is never geared towards my work. I think everyone has their own opinion on this matter, but I can't say I'd ever expect a gentlemen to loan me money especially if we only dated once.
Tasha
I agree with Kornlover 100% on this.
Yes, I'm sure there certainly are plenty of manipulative providers, who are skillfully able to make their clients think they're in love with them (when they're really not).
But there are also providers who genuinely care about certain clients and would do almost anything for them. A man can sense this and may reciprocate.
Human relationships can't be put neatly into any category. Just as a female lawyer or doctor can come to care for certain clients, so can a provider, and vice versa. It probably happens more easily with this hobby, because people obviously are becoming intimate earlier than in other types of relationships.
remember popeye's friend "can i have the (hamburger)pussy today and i will gladly pay you tuesday" how many of those providers you lent money to would give you a session on credit
for a hamburger today."