Neither did the other girls I knew...well, one did, but she worked for an agency.
I've always felt that upcharges make the experience feel too commercial...when I offered greek, I was hoping to get better reviews and have a wider breadth of appeal that I did as a vanilla GFE. So that's where the extra profit would've come in. I personally found that very few of my clients were interested in it.
Well i had a prostate exam today. Im sure many hobbist have been down that road before (pun intended). Gotta tell you, i didnt like it. Gotta tell you I apologize to any lady I have had greek with or asked to have greek with. Ouch.
and she had small fingers!!
God bless the ones that DO!
and she had small fingers!!
It's just not realistic to praise a woman for feeling NO pain and loving greek every minute. Praise her for having enough skill to MANAGE the process for you both, and for having enough acting chops to make the whole thing seem seamless and easy.
Yes, with proper preparation and good technique, the pain can go away...once the muscles are relaxed etc.
There is always SOME discomfort upon initial insertion, and definitely a lot of discomfort in the preparation. If either party (guy or girl) doesn't have good technique (most people do NOT), it'll be quite painful.
I've known some famously greek-freek ladies...even they will tell you, pain management is part of the deal. However, they won't tell a client anything of the sort.
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and I am not talking providers, I have known a few women who have literally begged to be fucked in the ass, and claimed it was the only way they could really get off. Keep in mind that number one, I much prefer a nice wet vagina over a anus that requires gobs of lube just to get inside, and number two, these were civvie women who were doing this for their own enjoyment, not mine.
So while I agree with you in principle, keep in mind that taste's vary and there is no limits to what other people might enjoy.
I've never met any like that personally, but I will take your word for it. A few years ago, I never would've believed any girl could possibly enjoy seeing clients. LOL.
My post was motivated by girls who do greek for purely commercial reasons...and all the clients who think they just LOVE it. I've known lots like that, as offering no-holes-barred sessions is a time-honored and quick way to make a ton of money in my area.
I knew one girl who tried to have the best of both worlds...she'd 'offer' it but then refuse every single dick as being too big. I also knew a girl who faked greek by sticking it in her vagina or even cupping it in her hand (do not ask me how she got away w/that sh**. I was never bold enough to try). Both were legitimate 'greek freak' type providers.
Some gals eagerly swallow, and some gals don't; not even for their SO!
Whether it's "pain management" and "acting", or an innately 'accepting' sphincter I was simply giving a tip of the hat.
literally a "sore" subject, I guess.
I offered greek for about 1 year. Some guys think it only hurts if the girl is prudish (or something), and that if they just JAM it in like in porn (where the guy just pops his 13-inch dick in without any prep or application of lube) it will feel great. So I guess I kinda associated the 'It doesn't hurt, some ladies looooove it' with guys who just got told that by a few too many lying ho's, lol. I was once one of those lying ho's once as were/are many other girls I've known.
Simply look for the providers that offer Greek; but charge $100 or more for it.
$25 or $50 more and they're often simply compensating for their 'preparation'. Above $50 they're telling the potential customer "I don't like it; but I'll do it, and you're gonna pay for it!"
I offered greek for about 1 year. Some guys think it only hurts if the girl is prudish (or something), and that if they just JAM it in like in porn (where the guy just pops his 13-inch dick in without any prep or application of lube) it will feel great. So I guess I kinda associated the 'It doesn't hurt, some ladies looooove it' with guys who just got told that by a few too many lying ho's, lol. I was once one of those lying ho's once as were/are many other girls I've known.
Oh really? Hey Captain Oblivious... in case you did not notice this is A BUSINESS, and smart hookers will capitalize on every fkin thing possible. I charge a whopping 200 extra for greek... you think that's because I don't really like it when I have done it BAREBACK with EVERY boyfriend I had for FREE? Um, ooopsie. I charge that, because some of you are DUMB enough to pay it and because this is ANAL ON DEMAND, with a condom, not anal when I have all night for a guy to get me ready. Like I am so fkin sure I know in advance I will be horny for anal at 3 pm next Tuesday lol. Get a grip. Sorry about that reality babe, but anyone assuming providers who charge more for greek must not like it is an idiot. Sure, some really hate the shit, but that's not the majority. I don't charge extra for rimming or swallowing, because no amount of money will get me to do it 'in the hobby.' If we charge for things we don't like, why are we charging you at all to fk? Duhhhhhhhhh....we like it. We just might not like it with you lol.
Oh, and if we offered it all inclusive, all the cheap fks would come out of the woodwork and demand it on EVERY date. Can you imagine a girl who is high volume having to let EVERY client fk her in the ass? Some of you need to take a Business class or two. This is not about what we like...it's about what we can get you to pay for bwahahhaa.
Sorry, on my way to a call now, and he won't be getting any of that!
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Hey now, I don't now if Dumb is the right word, I'd be OK with horny. lol. If I could get the ladies I date in real life to participate in anal I would have to pay the extra. I'm dating the wrong women. lol
If I could get $400 just to sit down and drink coffee with someone I'd charge it, LOL. And it's not because I don't like coffee.
Hell, I got paid just to sit and smoke a long cigarette to awesome music in a car for fifteen minutes while someone watched. I like listening to music, and I enjoy having a smoke while listening to a guy say over and over again how hot I was while I smoked. Imagine that? LOL
There are hotties who walk through the door… I do not say, "Oh, forget the donation. You're really hot."
All that to say
Agreed
Ain't no anal happening, sorry. 
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I would have to disagree. I think the ones that charge extra for anal do it because they can. As a business person I cannot fault someone who has an additional charge for providing an additional service. Personally I like the ala carte pricing model but appreciate the ladies who keep pricing reasonable.
You know why we charge an extra $100? Because some guys are complete assholes about it, and it's mostly due to this attitude right here. "Oh, you must like it", coupled with that twinkle in his eye and a thumb roughly jammed into my ass. Yeah, I do, until you ruin it for me.
When I first started, I didn't charge for anal. I figured I liked it, it was good for scores, and my agency let me charge a whole $10 more off the bat if I did it. YOWZA was I a lucky girl, right??
Wrong. What I learned is that 80% of men paying less than $300 for the whole shebang are rough, ignorant, and/or completely self-centered about it. I have, and I would say that to their face even to this day. Probably not even as nicely. Do you know how many have literally tried to ram it in real quick after I had already said no multiple times, like I wouldn't notice and would just let it go? Do you know how many men not only think that they can fuck you for three hours straight, but will get legitimately angry with you because, "well I asked you to be ready" when you can't? Not charging essentially means that you can't say no, and if you do, you have to be prepared to spend the rest of the session defending your body and your choice.
It was one of the most disgusting and dehumanizing experience I have ever had, and for reasons far beyond what I would feel comfortable putting on this board. It's better now, but I still flash back to those times every once in a while, and I am still repulsed by some of the people I encountered before I stood up and said "no, if I'm going to do this, you need to fuckin pony up". I wish I had sooner. I also wish I hadn't been as afraid to hand out a quick punch in the balls when it was clearly deserved. But, those are the mistakes of a baby ho with poor guidance.
The second I started charging for a PSE, I started having orgasms again. Crazy, huh? Suddenly, "no really, you're to big" was a compliment instead of some bullshit secret challenge only issued to him. I could say no, I could say "easy", I could even say how I wanted it! Adding $100 literally saved my providing career, because there is no way in hell I would have stayed if things hadn't changed. Now, my rates are so high that it seems a man wouldn't dream of putting a finger in my ass without figuratively taking me to dinner first, and I love it.
I get a lot more butt secks too.
Girls that charge for it like it just as much as girls who don't - however much they friggen do. At the end of the day though, the girls charging for it will suffer a lot less physically, and will probably have a lot more fun doing it. So you can think you have us figured out, but as of right now, it's truly the other way around.
Neither did the other girls I knew...well, one did, but she worked for an agency.
I've always felt that upcharges make the experience feel too commercial...when I offered greek, I was hoping to get better reviews and have a wider breadth of appeal that I did as a vanilla GFE. So that's where the extra profit would've come in.
I personally found that very few of my clients were interested in it.
Prices as they are make any work-a-day guy think twice. And yes; any up-charge has a hint of "commercialization" to it. But if a lady takes the time, cost and effort to enema prior, making her rectum kiss-ably clean for the activities I hold no grudge for a "modest" up-charge. A lady who eagerly goes to Greece sans premium simply earns even more favor, and likely repeat business from the likes of me.
VERY few reviewers include it in their reviews. I often must read through 20 or more reviews to find vindication that indeed the provider actually DOES the desired deed.
I've always felt that upcharges make the experience feel too commercial...when I offered greek, I was hoping to get better reviews and have a wider breadth of appeal that I did as a vanilla GFE. So that's where the extra profit would've come in.
I personally found that very few of my clients were interested in it.
Same here , I offer greek and don't upcharge and for me It's no difficult to do it but It seems not many guys are into it .
First, who the hell are you to tell anyone what they should do? This recreation of ours couldn't be any more personal and individualized. Which means it's up to the participants to decide what makes sense and what feels pleasing.
Second you do realize that a lot of pleasure is actually bound up with a little pain right? That ache in your loins just before you come? Well the release of that pain is part of what some of us think of as part of the pleasure.
And which of us do you think is such a boor as to ignore a lady's discomfort? I make it a point not to engage in anything a lady seems uncomfortable with and yes I have broken the clinch a few times when there was even a hint the lady was in pain.
And who appointed you patron anyway? Do you not think these ladies are capable of telling a client whether, how and how often they want to do something and of making their own grown up decisions about the right balance of pain and pleasure?
Get over yourself.
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I just found the statement kind of naive (as it was expressed), but I do agree that I mistakenly conflated it with my own negative experiences from years past, when the poster just meant it as a simple compliment.
So long as any guy seeks anal (or anything else) conscientiously and responsibly....great. But my experience is that not all men do so...and it's not that most guys mean any harm, but just that a lot of them approach anal with real ignorance. That's definitely been my experience.
It makes a person, in this case you, appear to be responding to a person other than who you intend to.
I too thought you were responding to Tg_baby, and I too was wondering why you were being so harsh towards her. I am relieved that she was not the target of your ire, as even though I disagreed with her, I didn't disagree THAT strongly. lol
FWIW, to who were you addressing your post?
I can attest to the fact that even a finger is painful. Nothing makes my labia shrivel faster than a dude deciding to just "poke around" in there. That's a good way to earn yourself a meet-n-greet with the people's elbow.
it gives them a shiny coat and prevents cancer. At least that is the word on the street. :0)
I had a GF in College that absolutely loved it, she had some of the most amazing O's I've ever seen a woman have and they seemed to last nearly a minute. I enjoyed anal with her because I knew she enjoyed it so much. I've seen that same look from some Porn Stars, so I suspect they were enjoying it as well. I did participate in a DP once in the hobby just because I wanted to experience it once, but I don't look for that in a Provider. Some women truly love it and that's great for them and their clients that do as well.
I am an ass man (and a leg man). I enjoy what I've come to know is called Italian, which is like tit fucking only with the butt cheeks. I've experienced this with civies in the past and they would masturbate while I was fucking their butt cheeks and it always seemed to be very enjoyable for them, definitely enjoyable for me too
Based on the fact that so many men love anal it surprises me that more women do not train their assholes to take a cock.
By starting with small anal plugs and working one's way up to larger sizes on can learn to accommodate even the biggest of cocks.
A few hours of training a day while doing their computer work a woman can train herself for making an additional two or three thousand dollars a week.
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The Porn Queens we see taking 3 to 5 uncommonly large penises in rapid and rapacious succession "prepare" themselves both off camera and ON with butt-plugs, dildos and such.
It's a "muscle", and as such can be trained if so desired.
By starting with small anal plugs and working one's way up to larger sizes on can learn to accommodate even the biggest of cocks.
A few hours of training a day while doing their computer work a woman can train herself for making an additional two or three thousand dollars a week.
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The math - heck, the entire thought process! - here is astonishing. Is it possible that the poster simply forgot that the anus is, in fact, the end compartment of an entire digestive tract, and serves a function far more vital to a ladies survival than providing men another hole to jerk off into?
Don't get me wrong! I am in no way opposed to anal sex - or men jerking off into my holes, for that matter! However, the belief any lady need only stretch a little muscle to earn "an additional two or three thousand dollars a week" attests to the seamless delivery of fantasy that myself and my sisters here provide.
Just think about it, guys. I mean, you have an industrious anus of your own! Sheesh
I was thinking the same thing after reading his post. After all with the economy the way it is, I have heard "hobbyist" claim they would kill for a lot less than $2-3000 a week, so if it's so easy why wouldn't they take it up the ass for the same amount? lmao
Come on guys, what's a little pain, and a whole lot of shame to start making that $100,000 plus that you all claim you want so bad.
Full disclosure here, I don't need an extra hundred grand quite that badly, unlike some of you here, I am doing just fine TYVM. rofl
thanks for the laugh Mimi
"You have an industrious anus of your own!"
Classic!
Too too funny!!
(and a nice realty check too)
Next time we get a thread about escorts charging too much I am going to just say this, ANAL, get training that butt-hole and slap up an ad. No more money problems! A mans ass, an untapped source of income!
Completely agreed. I love men, but some of them really make me wonder how the fuck they have survived.
Sounds like you need to make a video on how you have enlarged your anal sphincter. You seem to have it all worked out. So, not even a teensy bit of pain for the "biggest of cocks"?
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But I absolutely love love it. Of course it comes included with my very awesome GFE (why would I upsell for MY pleasure?) I love greek after a round one of a particularly good 69bbbj or a hot and wet mish session. After the first cup, he can just put it in and we are ready for round 2!
I also fancy a butt plug every once in a while when doing mish or especially doggy so the guy can play with my backdoor as the front is getting pleasured. I get off so quickly by thendouble stimulatio
IF she is not at least already partially open/turned on by the idea of greek, then it's not going to feel good whether she genuinely wants to do it or not.
If you do prepare yourself correctly, loosen up your muscles and get into the mindset that the experience will be PLEASURABLE, then it will NOT hurt. You behind gets used to it just like your vagina does (duh).
I truly enjoy greek. I do greek in my civvie life, get off to anal porn, and I play with my backdoor while masturbating. But in my mind, even before my first time, I have ALWAYS wanted to do anal. It's just such a submissive act and it really does send chills down my spine.
So please, anti-anal-they're- only-faking-to-get-business-women, I would appreciate it if you did not speak for me (ie don't kill my vibe). Anal's not your thing, that's cool. But don't say that we are all liars because you and one or two friends decided to fake it for YOUR customers.
Just my 0.02
the ass, not so much. It's great that yours opens up from mental stimulation and that greek feels great to you. Kudos, but understand that just as you'd appreciate other ladies not speaking for you, when saying that all ladies fake it, please don't "duh" those who don't enjoy it and then say it's b/c they aren't preparing their anuses properly. Yes, that could be the case for some ladies who don't like it, but others may have real physical limitations like hemorrhoids. Did you know hemorrhoids are prevalent in women and can be caused by pregnancy? I can almost guarantee a good percentage of escorts are mothers, and for some ladies, no amount of preparation will prevent the pain from an exposed blood vessel being violently rubbed by a penis. Anyway, some fake, some don't. Some can loosen up, others can't. It's truly a personal decision either way and there's really no correct generalization on either side of the coin. Different strokes, different folks no matter the reasoning behind their boundaries.
OUT! The ass is not meant to take an in. Those that do, great, those that don't great. Agree with your post.
I agree. That comment was mainly in response to the ones who said that they offered it to their clients even though they didnt enjoy it and that one never gets used to the feeling. Did not mean to project my negativity onto others and I apologize if it came off that way, really.
Probably not a good intro post to start negativity lol again I apologize if you or anyone else was offended by my words.
At 20, my ex boyfriend had a decent sized, long dick. We never used lube and also used condoms. (I wasn't as experienced in life, lube, and the rest, lol.)
I had that guy rammin' away down there… of course I was a twig and never ate anything, lol. That may have helped. But very hard, fast, and crazy. I loved it.
Today? Don't even touch my hole with a feather. Yowzahs.
I love to bend guys over & anal is always open lol it does not happen over night, but a couple of times later you will learn to love it too!
So a couple of lady friends told me that driving up the Hershey Highway does nothing for them.
Since guys have a prostrate gland and girls don't, there's nothing that gets a girl off down there except for some turds. For Mo' Money they'll go Greek for the Freaks, but it's nothing for them