The guy says he fell for his hooker and can't get up.
But have any ladies had this happen?

Cuz I can't get up 😄😄😄  

Wow!! I'm smitten

 This is a rare permutation of the virus, but we have been studying it in the lab, lol.   I'm glad you've found someone who you enjoy spending time with.  And my advice would be basically the same:  As long as you respect your client's boundaries, you're fine.  If he has an SO, then you need to respect that.  

 But there's nothing wrong with letting him know that you enjoy your time with him.  Maybe you can do a quasi-sugar arrangement, where you take him off the clock and he sees you on a regular basis.   That's basically what my former ATF did.   She took me off the clock, dropped off P411, & turned me into her SD.  I started seeing her on a regular basis for 2 years. Good luck.  --

That's my "smitten" test. LO

We had eight good years and two shitty ones before we agreed to disagree and went amicably our separate ways. We love each other still, just can't live together. It was like lightening from the first moment and was the best, most exciting chapter of my life. Feel free to PM me and we'll chat.

many "I've fallen for a client" threads over the years too.

 
 Typically these two scenarios are wildly different, both in quantity & in intensity.  Providers will sometimes mention a favored client, where she's interested in something more serious with him.  But these relatively mild declarations (like Brooklyn's) pale in comparison to the basket cases of deluded johns who spend thousands of dollars on hookers who treat them like a doormat/ATM.   Over the years, I've seen plenty of these train wrecks & so have you.  It's ridiculous to compare these two scenarios.  --z

assuming both are free to do so.  I believe there are many unreported instances among the Soccer Mom's out there.   There's a risk to it but quite frankly, there are always risks in affairs of the heart.  From the chatter here it would seem to be "high risk" but my civie score is pretty dismal.  Can it be any worse than that?  
Perhaps an extra degree of caution & proceed slowly & respectfully.  If nothing else, there is a certain clarity about sexual wants & needs.

Sorry Jack, not going to ruin this high 😈👄😁

"This is a rare permutation of the virus, but we have been studying it in the lab, lol"

^ in the lab lmao  

He is single, but I'm thinking that most guys probably wouldn't want to "date a H"  
What do I know though, I've been single since my divorce almost 12 years, so I have been out of the game for many years.

it was instantaneous and VERY Intense, and guess I was just caught off guard feeling like a silly school girl lol  

I usually do enjoy the company of most I see, but this was like pow omg holy shit woweee kinda time 😁

I am sure nothing will come of it, but it's nice to feel so giddy about it and he texted a couple times after he left.

Was interested to see if this had happened / happens quite a bit.

Thanks for responding x

Wow 8 yrs is a good run Lillian. I'm going to pm when I get back from this tour if that's okay.
xo

Agree, and anything worth getting , is  worth the risk.

I'm sure I'll come to my senses soon, but still got that shit eaten grin on right now 😁

x

I was about a week into the business.  

It was laughable. He turned out to be a cokehead (as of 2010, he'd been to rehab 3 times) and a sex addict. He blatantly used me. I later found out that he had three different girlfriends...two in NYC, one in Palm Beach, FL. He was ugly (all that coke and booze made him age in dog years), but he had a lot of superficial charm.

I dated a second client a few months later. He was much nicer. Since he was already planning to move away when we met, our relationship had a set (short) duration. Thus, we had no expectations of each other, other than sex and companionship. It wasn't love, but it was a beautiful thing, in its own way. I wouldn't do it again, because certain things about they way he treated me wouldn't be acceptable to me now. But I certainly don't regret it.  

I don't regret either of them, actually...even the first. That was an invaluable learning experience for me.  

However, I'd be very cautious about getting into a relationship with a client again. I've had a few of them fall for me. What I've noticed is that it never has anything to do with me. These men respond to something lacking in their own lives...since they are not confronted with reality, they are able to graft their own desires, wishes, and delusions onto the person they imagine me to be. But they don't even know me. Some of them don't even know my real name. If I had to summarize what they wanted, it wouldn't be love. It would be FREE SEX. And ATTENTION. And, maybe EXCITEMENT (some of them seemed really bored).  

I can just imagine how it would end. I'd be heartbroken, and feel used. And I'd have lost $$$$$$$ because I either refused dates to be with him, or just couldn't deal with sex w/strangers as well when I only wanted to be with one person...

With that said, though, I still haven't given up on love... and, neither should you. Just consider what you could potentially lose, and make sure it's worth it!

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Oh he'll...I think that's a line from "Michael Clayton" I think. LOL

Maybe not

Why Brooklyn...was he cute? Smitten like a kitten can't be good lol

Just have fun with him...and good luck!

Gia xo

 Well, he knows your little secret, & you know his. He'll be quite willing to date you--guys love free sex with a hot babe. But any kind of serious commitment from him is another thing altogether.  At this early stage, I think you should continue with P4P & progress slowly.  The first step is to spend some off-the-clock time with him & see how he responds.  That's always flattering to a client.  

 When you want to see him again, send him an unsolicited text, make it *personal*, so that he knows you're not sending out a mass text to your client list.  See if he comes back for more of you.  Just remember: once you start dating him,  you've picked up a BF but lost your best client.  You can't rewind that clock.  

 Maggie McNeill, who writes the Honest Courtesan blog, married a client.  But it's a rare thing.  Once you're dating, it's a new game completely.  If he takes you home to meet mom, then he's probably thinking long term.  But if he keeps you away from family & friends, then you've hit a dead end.  As you stated earlier, he's just 'dating an H', and you need to drop him. Take care,  --

Wow. She is pretty cool.  

- Wow. This girl is REALLY cool. Too bad she has this annoying thing [insert thing that annoys you]. I'm afraid it's a deal breaker.

- You know, maybe I can just look past this thing [insert thing that annoys you].

- Wow, I've never seen her look so beautiful. I think she might be the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

- [Imagines what life would be like with her. Images of fun and laughter.]

- [thing that annoys me] starts bothering me.

- Asks person if she can work on [thing that annoys me]

- [thing that annoys me] starts becoming more annoying. More apparent. It's clear that it is an in-grained personality trait of this person. It's baked in, and I can't change this person, unfortunately.

- [Continue to try and work around "that thing"]

- Fuck this. What was I even thinking?

- Wow, this other lady is pretty cool

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I think they are still Face Book family, I don't know for sure as I don't FaceBook, but even though I took her to meet my mom, (It was part of a week long vacation in California) I still had no serious intentions with her.

One other pitfall about dating clients besides the guys who are ashamed of dating hookers and the guys just looking for free sex. Many divorced or single whore mongers NEVER want to be married/remarried to any woman ever again. I count myself in that category. I fully respect hookers and I make a halfway decent boyfriend, even a faithful one that won't cheat on you, but PLEASE don't think that means I am looking for or have even the slightest interest in being with any one "forever", I just don't think in those type of terms.

Of course you can compare them, it does happen. I've had enough hooker/john relationships to know that for a fact, and many of my hooker GF's had fellow hookers also with former john BF's and even husbands, so it's hardly an isolated thing.

Do more johns fall for hookers and post lovesick posts on the subject? Of course, but keep in mind lovesick johns are much more likely to post about it than lovesick hookers, that doesn't mean there aren't many lovesick hookers out there, just that they rarely post about it. Just like I don't post about every hookers I start getting friendly with. I might share the stories about them when it's relevant, but I am hardly going to start asking for advice from this motley crew on the subject. I think most hookers keep their mouths shut about the guys they date too. It's not exactly good for business, unless they can word it into being a threAD of sorts, you know the type of post where the lady hints that if you are man enough, you too might have a chance of winning her heart. It's not an ineffective way of drumming up business

Btw, thank you for spelling "that word" right Mr. Fisher. YAY! lol

Gia xo

Toooooooo funny!!

I've come back to reality! Might not see him again.... The force is strong....
best to stay away 😉

Lol, yes model looks with manners and class to match...
funny thing is, that is not my type at all, I prefer they not be prettier than me,
more rugged looking, facial scar is a bonus... with a tall but imperfect body type. Think Marlboro man 😈
Can't explain it, but there was lightning in that room the moment the door opened.
Definitely fun!
x

Thanks Z!

I've snapped out of it lol

I do not want a BF or husband either. Did plenty of that... and no thanks!
I prefer to be alone, I am happier that way.
I've been divorced for years and just never had that reaction with someone so I got a little flustered. I'm back in the real world now 😁

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that none of us falls in love while we are in one anothers' presence.  

We fall in love when we are apart and spend our time thinking about them, saying their name, looking forward to seeing them again.

Focus on what you'd want and what you would do outside of p4p, and do that! Focus on it!  

We make so much of the p4p "complexity" and forget that when we are focused on the real goal, the p4p complexity becomes much less a concern.

The only regret is not trying when you really want to try.

  That's quite a word salad above, lol.  
      You're engaging in pure speculation now. Not to dismiss your point--everyone gets their heart broken eventually, that's part of the human condition.  But given the scope of this thread, all we can objectively evaluate is what's been posted on the board(s) over a long period of time.  

  There's no comparison (or equivalency)  between the deluded, lovestruck johns who get played for thousands of dollars, vs a provider who is interested in one of her clients.  It's a totally different dynamic, with totally different outcomes.  Even if a provider is romantically rejected by her client,  it's highly unlikely she threw thousands of dollars his way, just to buy a fantasy romance.  There's a darker side to this as well.   Romantically rejected johns often become stalkers,  even when a provider doesn't take advantage of him.   The reverse is rarely true.  

 So you're comparing two things that are only superficially alike.  That's a common logical fallacy (e.g.,  'apples to oranges').    It's a faulty premise which leads to a false conclusion.   --z

But there are worse things I can imagine than dating a client.  

Most likely he doesn't want a GF or wife either, sometimes "casual but real" is a nice change of pace